▶ No.94363>>94393 >>94424 >>94820
Thank fucking good riddance.
He was 25. She was his 14-year-old girlfriend.
And they met, according to court documents, in an online "furry" chatroom discussing their mutual love for anthropomorphic animals with human personalities and characteristics.
Derek Edward Thomas, now 26, of Williamsburg, was charged last week with traveling to North Carolina to engage in sexual conduct with the underage girl and improperly sending her naked videos of himself. If convicted, he faces the possibility of 30 years in prison.
A magistrate judge on Wednesday ordered him held pending trial.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Lisa McKeel declined to comment on the case, as did Assistant Federal Public Defender Amanda Conner.
FBI agents arrested Thomas following a five-month investigation.
According to court documents, the girl’s 21-year-old sister contacted military police Aug. 6 at Fort Bragg, N.C., to report the relationship. She explained Thomas and her sister visited her at least three times in July and that she’d seen condoms in his duffel bag during the last visit. She also said her sister, who lived in Charlotte, N.C., had recently traveled with her family to Williamsburg and that Thomas had joined them on a trip to Busch Gardens.
The two sisters got into an argument after the trip, with the younger one claiming Thomas loved her.
In September, a federal agent interviewed the younger sister about her relationship with Thomas. The sister explained she met Thomas using the Kik messaging app, in a chatroom that catered to people who view themselves as “furries.”
Some wear costumes and attend conventions.
According to court documents, the younger sister said Thomas gave her a “collar” to wear. On the outside was the young girl’s furry name. On the inside was Thomas’ furry name, documents said.
The girl did not initially tell Thomas her age when they met online, but she eventually did, court documents said. They talked for another week on Kik before Thomas asked her to date him.
The two continued to communicate via phone, text message and the Telegram app, documents said.
The two exchanged nude pictures and videos of themselves, according to court documents.
The younger sister arranged the Fort Bragg trips. She told her older sister he was 20, knowing she would have an issue with his real age.
"She knew he was older than 20," Special Agent Stacey Sullivan testified Wednesday about the younger sister. "But I don't know what age she thought he was."
The younger sister told investigators the two never had sex because there wasn’t enough time. They did have other sexual contact, though.
The older sister confronted Thomas about the condoms she found in his bag during the last visit. He said they were from a previous event.
Thomas, however, asked the older sister at one point to give him and her sister some alone time so their “relationship could grow,” according to court documents.
Scott Daugherty, 757-446-2343, scott.daugherty@pilotonline.com
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▶ No.94368>>94370
great, more news article threads
▶ No.94370>>94382
>>94368
its to show awareness about people in the fandom who are sick and digusting.
▶ No.94382>>94389
>>94370
Taking a quick look at this board, or e621, or FA, will quickly tell you that furries are sick and disgusting. What does this do that mountains of inflation, faggot, ABDL, vore, and other awful shit does not?
▶ No.94389>>94398 >>94821
>>94382
you have a broken gif.
▶ No.94393>>94402
>>94363
Our resident nut will insist this is more evidence that the fandom is jammed full of child molesters, and that his not being arrested sooner is proof that the fandom knows all these people and are all actively covering for them.
▶ No.94396>>94403
Come on, you're not a real furry if you don't know someone who is grooming a schoolkid.
▶ No.94398
>>94389
not all .gifs are meant to move, friend.
▶ No.94399>>94952
And yet you still have droves of nufurfags eagerly and aggressivly wanting to allow children into the community/fandom so their hobby can finally become "normal and popular". It's really a shame bronies absorbed the attention and hate for so long, people/nufurries seem to have forgotten why furries were hated for so long.
▶ No.94402>>94476
>>94393
>one person one person one person
The common fandom defense when someone doesn't want to hear a widespread opinion.
▶ No.94403>>94405
>>94396
>you're not a real furry if you weren't groomed as a schoolkid
ftfy
▶ No.94405>>94411
>>94403
getting groomed over the internet is like getting murdered over the phone
you must really want to play along
▶ No.94411>>94425
>>94405
if you get groomed over the internet your either dumb, too trusting, too lonely a number of things but most importantly. you let it happen instead of saying No.
▶ No.94421>>94422 >>94436
hopefully he had a bunch of friends and we see another 2016/2017 Furry Child abuse arrest style incident.
▶ No.94422
>>94421
also the guy arressted is going to go
I DIDNT KNOW I HAVE AUSTISM I DONT KNOW BETTER REEE I DIDNT KNOW HER AGE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
▶ No.94424>>94427
>>94363
30 years for sending her naked videos of himself, meanwhile New York celebrates the murder of babies. Guys I don't want to inconvenience you, but how about standing up and ripping jews to shred? You may even keep the suits on.
▶ No.94425>>94426
>>94411
Do you masturbate to stuff on the web? Gotcha!
▶ No.94426>>94428
>>94425
if your grooming children you deserve to be in jail stop defending pedophillia it has no place in modern society.
▶ No.94427>>94428 >>94432
>>94424
yeah naked videos of someone whos undeage by legal definition of the law, if you dont like the laws become a politican and see how many vote for the pedo supporting politican.
▶ No.94428>>94429 >>94489 >>94758
>>94426
You misunderstood. You're getting groomed by the porn industry if you jerk off to porn online.
>>94427
Can you not read? He send naked vids of himself to her.
▶ No.94429>>94433
>>94428
yes, he commited a crime by sending naked videos to someone under the age of 18. i meant he not someone, i dont know where autocorrect came in.
▶ No.94432>>94434
>>94427
Or... Pedos could rebel and just break the laws like alcoholics did during prohibition. Worked out for the alcoholics right?
Rather than having consensual intergenerational relationships, people have forced maps into the underground of raping/drugging/kidnapping and even murdering to be with their partners.
▶ No.94433>>94435
>>94429
Talk about a victimless crime lol. I'm sure it's worth the taxpayer's 55 dollars a day to house a violent muderous criminal who... Sends nudes.
▶ No.94434>>94438
>>94432
yeah alcohol and pedophillia are not the same
ones a paraphillia and a sexual problem one destroys your liver. *buzzer noise*
try again pedophile.
▶ No.94435>>94439
>>94433
yep, thank god, im glad hes in jail deserves it for being a sick fuck.
▶ No.94436
>>94421
Pretty sure they were acquitted, and might even qualify for double jeopardy.
▶ No.94438
>>94434
Alcohol leads to violent behavior and is responsible for many deaths. Love, on the other hand, is not violent or harmful at all.
▶ No.94439>>94440
>>94435
Deserves for "being," wow that's pathetic.
They didn't choose to exist, nor did they choose their attraction. Like gay people, they will one day be accepted once bigots like you learn empathy.
Hating on someone because of a natural trait is sick and demented.
▶ No.94440>>94454 >>94480 >>94635
>>94439
doesnt mean its going to be legal, if its natural then i hope to god he gets therapy in jail for it to supress his urges as much as possible. because society at this point does not want him as it is illegal to have sexual relations and send sex videos to children. I have no empathy for people who assault and molest children, regardless of there excuse they have control over themselves being an adult and can simply choose to walk away.
if he CANT control himself like how this situation goes that makes him MORE of a danger to society and why he deserves to be locked up.
▶ No.94454>>94455 >>94476 >>94480
>>94440
That's the thing though, people like that have no impulse control whatsoever, and with the help of treatment can be rehabilitated and not be a drain on society.
What if your son ends up being a pedophile?
▶ No.94455>>94457 >>94616
>>94454
>trying to play the sympathy card to win favor
>on a chan board
I'd disown him and or find a subtle way to lead him to his death.
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▶ No.94476>>94477
>>94402
There are certainly multiple people who think there are pedos in the fandom. There seems to be just one, DarkShadowFox, who thinks the fandom is packed full of them (and zoosadists) and that the entire rest of the fandom knows about them and are all actively part of a vast cover-up.
I'm glad this guy got caught, and I hope all of them get caught, but they're not this enormous group.
>>94454
I'd love for the system to figure out who can be rehabilitated and then do so. But as things stand, it seems it's more profitable not to do so.
▶ No.94477>>94543
>>94476
We have a person who thinks that furries are pedos and we need to out them, keeps spamming anti-pedo threads and derails threads with pedo talk.
Strangely enough, only pedos in furry community are important here. Self-loathing is strong in that one.
▶ No.94480>>94503
>>94364
Might as well get the article as well:
https://archive.li/KQvyy
As for this situation, I really can't think of much to add. This guy seems to fit the bill for the classic "pedo luring young kids via the internet" thing, and it once again shows that furry is another catalyst for it.
>>94440
>>94454
It's no guarantee that this was brought on by a lack of control, in fact, these acts are much more likely to be premeditated as this whole thing was under investigation for five months, and I highly doubt this whole thing is because of five months of a lack of control. Either way, maybe he can reform, but he still needs to face the consequences for his actions.
▶ No.94489>>94490 >>94543
>>94428
I’ve been jerking off to porn of various types since middle school, and I don’t know what you mean by “groomed,” but porn always seems to be less and less interesting and engaging, and more gross than sexy. Am I doing it wrong?
I figure if any industry has been “grooming” me it would be to cultivate my interest in their product, not turn me off with it.
▶ No.94490
>>94489
then your not being groomed if you dont know what "grooming ".
▶ No.94503
>>94480
well then if it was premediated then hes even more Dangerous, i was thinking he was just depressed and lonely that it was unintentional but no it seems he targeted the fur because they were specifically 14.
▶ No.94543>>94546 >>94590
>>94477
>We have a person who thinks that furries are pedos and we need to out them, keeps spamming anti-pedo threads and derails threads with pedo talk
Uh, yeah, we do. DarkShadowFox. But nobody here is defending pedophiles. People saying "liking/drawing cub porn doesn't mean you're a real-life pedo" gets taken as defense of pedos, and "that's not what I said OR what I meant" is being met with what amounts to, "see, that's what a pedo defender would say."
>>94489
No INDUSTRY is grooming anyone. "Grooming" is when a child molester slowly introduces concepts that will lead to sexual contact to a child in order to try to make them accept said contact when it comes.
▶ No.94546>>94547
>>94543
thats even if the contact comes about 90% of children based sexual offense are online now because children are literally everywhere.
▶ No.94547
>>94546
oh forgot to tag my shit,
-DarkShadowFox
▶ No.94590>>94592 >>94593
>>94543
Yeah that’s what I thought grooming meant.
But “child” is another important aspect of the definition of grooming. If you’re 14 and hook up online with a 25 year old you’re just a slut. Or your parents have kept you so sheltered from society that you can’t handle any kind of relationship. I just can’t get upset about a 14 year old fucking a 25 year old. That’s not even a crime in half the world and if this guy hadn’t crossed a state line it never would have gone to court.
▶ No.94592>>94594
>>94590
it would of gone to court if the police subpoenas whatever messanger he used minus telegram because they dont respond to court orders traced his ip which most likely would of had one of his home IPs done like 6 months of digging and came at his house with a search warrant
there is no "getting away" with explotation of children regardless of your views on it, in a legal sense its explotiation,
he would of gone to jail it would of just taken longer, theres no beating the "law" the law will get you one way or another.
also the 14 year old did not approach the 25 year old, the 25 year old approached the 14 year old making him the instigator
if a 14 year old came up to me online and said hey qt wanna yiff id like no gtfo thot and run away because thats either a cop or someone looking to bait.
anything else?
▶ No.94593
>>94590
i forgot to add to 94592 that he also engaged in a relationship with the 14 year old and coerced and groomed her by tactics. probably lied about his age making him a fucking pedophile dude.
i deal with these creeps all day online anyone who posts here about pro pedophllia and why it should be legalized and there views just make me more informed about how to counter your society.
▶ No.94594>>94603
>>94592
I respect your opinion; I’m just saying that age difference doesn’t shock me. We’re talking about two adults.
I realize that the law is very clear but
1: laws are not perfect
2: other countries have AOC as low as 12
3: to most people who read this story the number 14 trumps any facts or details.
Everybody has their hot button issues. Teenagers fucking guys in their twenties doesn’t happen to be one of mine.
I wouldn’t want to fuck a 14 year old either. I had a 23 year old girlfriend who was so immature and flaky I considered murdering her on multiple occasions. But if a 14 year old wants to scratch that itch go for it.
▶ No.94603>>94605
>>94594
>some places have
america doesnt have those laws.
>laws arent perfect
your right there written to cast a wide net and are absolute and designed to put the really bad people and the innocent people in jail all under the same roof because making them any less would put the bad people on the street.
>nigga there 14
they are literally in a biology sense 1 year into puberty, how is that fair and NOT taking advantage of them.
there 14 a furry so there even more venerable then some random 14 year old whos not a furry due to the demographic the fandom itself attracts ie more people who are cast from society and or not that socially adaptive or alot of things.
think for with me for a minute,
were talking about america not anywhere else.
america will never be turkey. or add an age of cosenent law as low as 12 because of the society we live in and the culture we live in.
now what were you like when you were 14 and put youself in her shoes, not the attackers.
▶ No.94605>>94606 >>94607 >>94608 >>94626
>>94603
Maybe I’m expecting too much of society but I was raised not to believe and obey every adult I ever encountered. I had that shit figured out by age nine. I don’t believe that a little alarm ticks off during puberty that says “hey! You have common sense now!” I don’t believe in any law that assumes people are helpless and/or stupid.
I guess it sucks for kids from broken homes or ones whose parents don’t give a shit but hey, lots of bad things happen to kids that have shitty families.
Maybe if we wanted to cast a wide net we’d focus on shitty parenting instead of teenage sluts. I mean really, aside from pregnancy or stds, the only risk in most of these situations is the stigma of being an “abuse victim,” and finding out that what you enjoyed at the time was wrong and you’re now damaged goods. If society didn’t find this behavior so disgusting, and if rape and assault and love and sex were the same thing to everyone, then it wouldn’t be so confusing.
I don’t fuck kids and I don’t care if I’m allowed to. I don’t care if any kids in my family gets propositioned by a stranger online, because they’re all capable of handling themselves. And I have no reason to be upset when some poor slob gets a sex offender status because his girlfriend lied about her age. But I can still think those laws are stupid and ineffective, which I do.
It amazes me how readily people will accept that laws can and do protect them. People have been murdered with illegal guns in like, the last ten calendar years, and everyone keeps saying “we need more gun laws!”
Maybe if we didn’t glamorize slutty rich chicks like the Kardashians we wouldn’t have so many kids exploring their sexuality on the internet.
▶ No.94606>>94610 >>94626 >>94664
>>94605
stop wanting child sex to be legal, it should be disgusting by nature to you if you had any normal sense of what right was.
gun violence and pornography are not alike.
there are kids exploring there sexuality online because it is easy for children to access pornography and is seen now as a normal cycle of development rather then a worry esp if its straight and a bunch of hot chicks, anything else that deviants from that is an instant red flag and thats where you get problems like whats going on here with these two.
the 14yo is still not at fault.
i hope you have kids as your pro child sex and "love and sex and rape should be the same" statement are vieled for promoting sex with children to be legal, interspersed with other statements that distance you and are confusing and dont fit together and sound like someone thats desperatly trying to do anything possible to justify whats going on here instead of fighting a stupid uphill battle that lawmakers will never allow, you would need everyone in congress to die and be replaced with people from my generation. then only then will you have a chance but by then the earth will be far too destroyed that nothing will matter and pasty white fat nerds pedos, like yourself will be mob murdered ala the book of eli and mad max.
▶ No.94607
>>94605
the fact that i forgot to add in my previous post, a dont care attitude is the reason why these child abuse laws and stuff with child sex is illegal and punishable by law because you are a neglectful parent and are not being responsibile for a human fucking life you brought into the world.
▶ No.94609
>>94608
i edited this for you
-DarkShadowFox
▶ No.94610>>94611
>>94606
dont have kids meant dont have kids, please dont have children. like ever.
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▶ No.94612
also forgot bringing the schoolboy as in HS/ middle school fantasy of someone wanting to fuck there teacher as a grounds for child sex being ok because hollywood portrays it guess what hollwood is full of.
PEDOPHILES.
▶ No.94616>>94617 >>94622
>>94455
So you can get behind premeditated murder but not between 2 people in love? Wow you need help.
▶ No.94617
>>94616
there is no love when your abusing children, the use of the word love is a desensitizer.
▶ No.94622>>94634
>>94616
That's not love you retard, it's a fetish. Kids grow up, if you "love" them specifically because they're young, you love the body type/age, not the individual. How many threads are you planning on shitting up with your pedo apologist shit?
▶ No.94626
>>94605
I on the other hand was raised in a house where honesty was appreciated and if something like that was happening, we would talk about it. But keep in mind that it's up to the adult to not fuck kids. By the way, if you had kids, you would be really anti-pedo, just speaking from experience.
>>94606
>there are kids exploring sexuality online
It's probably better than making it a huge taboo that is never spoken about or even mentioned. Sexually repressed people become deviants.
▶ No.94634>>94637 >>94650 >>94663
>>94622
The "loving children sexually should be okay" people are usually trolls, who say this shit only so they can sit back and watch everyone else get mad and argue. I'm sure there are boards where genuine pedophiles go to talk about it, but the ones who think that loving sexual contact can be good likely know that they won't change any minds on ye random board. That should tell you that when you see one of them around some non-pedo board, chances are they're there to piss people off.
▶ No.94635
>>94440
>I have no empathy for people who assault and molest children
Funny. Sounds like the guy didn't assault or molest anybody, unless you're using the new definition of the terms where they just mean "did something wrongthinky".
▶ No.94637
>>94634
>That should tell you that when you see one of them around some non-pedo board, chances are they're there to piss people off.
You have entirely too high an opinion of yourself. I don't want to piss people off to piss people off, I want people to THINK for once in their lives, and that's why they get pissed off, because thinking is fuckin' hard, man.
▶ No.94649
cant wait to rape some pedophiles.
▶ No.94650
>>94634
the boards that pedo's use are all on tors onion sites or they join secret chats on telegram IRC and or use secret code words, its not hard to find if you just google what your into and add .onion.
tada, expose frequently.
▶ No.94663>>94667 >>94710
>>94634
I don’t say it to be a troll. I just think that if you have to buy your girlfriend ice cream after sex to stop her from crying, it’s abuse.
And also that if you’re only “abusing” her by merit of the age difference, and it’s otherwise a healthy relationship, then people should mind their own business.
Age of consent is not the only thing that stops sexual predators.
▶ No.94664>>94665 >>94989
>>94606
There should be no laws that ban “disgusting” behavior. If the only thing you can find wrong with it is that it’s disgusting, then you’re just imposing your will on other people to make the world easier for you to digest.
Homosexuality and being black are still disgusting to plenty of people. Women driving is disgusting to some people. Women in the military is disgusting to people here in the USA. A few years ago the idea of them voting disgusted people.
▶ No.94665>>94669
>>94664
will not make child sex legal, stop trying.
▶ No.94666>>94668
>>94608
Oh lol you are super witty.
▶ No.94667
>>94663
nope it is our business if your sexually abusing/ preying upon children. i cant wait to seriously slug the half of the pro pedo supporters here.
▶ No.94668
>>94666
no its all red flags of someone whos a pedophile, if he had real children he wouldnt post like this, this type of mindset is from someone who does not have children/ is pushing for child sex to be ok.
pedophiles will do anything to justify there actions.
▶ No.94669>>94670
>>94665
Oh and the part about not caring that someone crossed out.. that doesn’t change my opinion. I don’t care if banging kids is legal. I am not into that.
▶ No.94670
>>94669
you sure seem to want to advocate strongly about people pursing your kids unaware of how good pedophiles are at coercing kids online unfortunately you dont care at all you are right. you arent into it, and you dont have kids so you really cant say otherwise until some sick fuck diddles your daughter in the bathroom of a walmart, i hope they do, so you get a sense of how demeted these people are.
▶ No.94672>>94674
I've said it before. There's a seriously peculiar trend with teenagers hooking up with adults.
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▶ No.94674>>94677
>>94672
there is not, its always the adult that is the insitigator. theres like a .5% chance that the teen initiates and if im remember what it was like to be a teenager, awkward clumsy and goofy like an 18yo virgin having sex for the first time.
▶ No.94675>>94717 >>94734
i like how theres so many undercover cops posting in here about pro pedophillia nonsense.
▶ No.94677>>94681
>>94674
I mean mutually. I've seen it before. Both parties have the knowledge that the other is too young/old for them to date, yet still do it anyway.
▶ No.94680
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▶ No.94681>>94700
>>94677
laws wont stop people from doing illegal things, people will still do it, just wont ever become legal if people keep breaking the law.
▶ No.94700>>94703
>>94681
I'd bet the opposite. If it became common, the chance is it'd be legalized eventually.
▶ No.94703>>94749
>>94700
it wont become common, children depsite being more exposed to social media and the internet, still deserve to be children, having sex with them takes there innocense away, let children be children, the more safe we make society the better it can be to start letting kids play outside without the fear of being snatched up and taken away and exploirted raped and murdered, i used to be able to play outside when i was a kid and nobody ever approached me.
kids these days are locked behind screens and all this other bullshit because there are literal predators out there, legalizing it will not take away the predators and will make it easier for them to move around.
do you really want that? to allow these bad people who exploit children for porn and pure sexual pleasure to roam freer? thats what will happen if you decriminalize child pornography and sex with children.
unfortunately this is not Europe this is not some third world country shithole where its legal or it "works" this is america, the worlds biggest country with the biggest influx of people across the entire world internationally, the risk of decriminalizing it are just too great.
-DarkShadowFox
▶ No.94710>>94731
>>94663
I'm talking about the "child sex should be okay" people, not so much you.
▶ No.94717
>>94675
>cops
>on 8ch
what for? it's not like they have any power here
▶ No.94731>>94732
>>94710
I think “child sex should be okay” is taking it a bit too far. I don’t see much difference in dating a 16 year old vs an 18 year old, but if it was legal to buy the neighborhood children toys and candy in exchange for sex then I truly believe it would be rampant.
People can be taken advantage of at any age. It isn’t okay to do it to kids or adults. You might not be able to prevent your kid from being snatched into a van and raped in a dark alley, but you can teach them not to hook up with 25 year old guys over the internet. And I know raising kids is difficult and everyone makes mistakes but for starters I think de-stigmatizing it and allowing people to talk about it without using the words “disgusting” or “criminal” or “victim” would make it easier for young people to talk openly about their lives with their families.
I don’t like to accept that the law will pick up where bad parenting leaves off, because it can’t.
▶ No.94732>>94736
>>94731
Which is why I said I'm not talking about you. But advocating what you are WILL, at least here, get you called a pedo apologist, so you might want to espouse that view elsewhere. I'm not telling you to leave, only that you won't change minds on this board.
▶ No.94734>>94741
>>94675
Cops won’t commit entrapment in an anonymous forum to skirt the law.
And professional athletic coaches won’t tamper with equipment to give their team an edge. And CEOs won’t break antitrust laws to help their friends get rich, or commit international fraud to help their political campaigns. And lawyers won’t lie to congress to help their CEO clients. Oh wait all of that shit happens every day. :)
▶ No.94736
>>94732
Yeah I’ve actually seen it happen and you are indeed correct sir.
I think that my biggest problem is that I don’t care if a bunch of internet people think I’m a pedo apologist. I’m not, and it annoys me that at least in USA if you don’t go all in on one side of a political issue, it’s understood that you’re fully in support of the other side.
It’s bad to take advantage of little kids to see their buttholes, but our prisons are full of innocent people. When I read about how a guy gets acquitted after 15 years in prison and a lifetime reputation as a murderer or rapist, I wonder if the couple $100k the government gives them for their trouble comes anywhere close to making up for it. Or whether most people think it’s worth the slight risk you’ll be mistaken for a suspect and imprisoned for decades to know that the cops are “out there doing their jobs.”
It doesn’t help me sleep at night.
▶ No.94741
>>94734
It's hard to do here since you're not getting shit from 8ch unless you have a good case. And it's not a good case until you know at least if the person is from you're country. And you don't know until someone mentions being a criminal and a US citizen in the same post.
So yeah, police has nothing to do here.
▶ No.94746>>94754
I don't think people in their 20's should be dating anyone in their early-mid teens, and I saw that as someone in their early-mid twenties with no meaningful relationships and a personality stunted from my mid-late teens.
Even if you could find some sort of emotional connection (which is unlikely given how distanced you are from the lifestyle changes that rapidly occur within that small window), it shouldn't be encouraged to have physical intimacy with them. Unfortunately the law is both not a deterrent and incredibly biased (Remember the FBI declining to investigate the tip about child sex trafficking in Las Vegas?)
But I also understand the position of the devil's advocates in this thread. Societies that care so little as to the well-being of a child to allow abortions/circumcisions/entertain the notion of post-birth abortions and infanticide, being fully aware of and justifying the irreversible trauma and or death of kids in those circumstances, need a priority check if consensual and nonviolent interaction between kids and adults warrants decades in prison.
▶ No.94749
>>94703
No one said I wanted it. I just pointed out it was happening.
▶ No.94754
>>94746
I am kind of depressed by the idea that life should be fun and carefree for the first 18 years, and then the remaining 80% of it should be a nightmare.
I think that instead of doing our damnedest to ensure that kids are sheltered from reality we should be teaching them from the start how they can cope with it, during and after childhood.
Most people today seem to agree that as a child you have mom and dad to scare the monsters away, and as an adult you’ll have xanax and klonopin to make them invisible.
There are especially good moments, like the death of a pet or relative, when we can squeak in some of these lessons, but sometimes the bad stuff doesn’t wait for a convenient opportunity to educate. I hate to hear “he’s too young for that,” because the perverts see it exactly the opposite way.
Unfortunately for me that comes across as “go ahead and bang little kids,” but that is not the goal I’m seeking.
I think furries are part of the problem. I really don’t believe furries have more perverts than the rest of the world, but I do think they’re responsible for generating a lot of cute fuzzy porn that appeals to children much more than something like bangbus. Even if that’s not their intent, they should take some ownership of creating an enormous body of work that pedos can use as ready-made training material. If it looks like rainbow dash is enjoying being railed out by spike, then maybe they can imagine having similar fun with their creepy neighbor up the road.
This argument has been used in court in the past, in the sense that “if you can google bad stuff it shouldn’t be on the web,” but perverts don’t need the work to go straight to the kids. They can download heaps of it and show it off when they need to.
Maybe furries aren’t the ones doing this but they created a gigantic market for the stuff, and continue to crank it out. It’s very selfish and ignorant to say “this is just for me to jerk off to,” and it’s probably my #1 beef with the fandom.
▶ No.94758>>94759
>>94428
>if you jerk off to porn online
Yeah, I usually save it and jerk of to it with my modem unplugged so I stay groomed-free.
▶ No.94759
>>94758
They aren’t targeting you or training you. They just blast it with keywords and hope for some ad conversions.
▶ No.94793>>94815 >>94830 >>94834
>>94360 (OP)
I think the guy did nothing wrong. If I could afford his bail I would totally help him out.
▶ No.94815
>>94793
he did plenty wrong, fuck off.
▶ No.94820
>>94363
You post this like you wouldn't do the same fucking thing if given the money, means and half a chance. You're a hypocritical faggot.
▶ No.94821
>>94389
The gif is working just fine for me.
▶ No.94830>>94929
>>94793
I think it’s pretty classless to send dick picks to a girl you’ve never met in person. But I hear it’s a thing these days. Maybe I’m old fashioned.
Whether it was ethical or abusive I’m not sure but it’s certainly wrong.
▶ No.94834>>94849
>>94793
This is the type I was talking about, the guys who pop in just to say, "(vilified person) did nothing wrong." I can't say on this one, but they're usually trolls, who say what they say just to watch the sparks fly.
If it's an honest opinion, it can really only be called an opinion. Say that the guy didn't morally do any wrong, that's an opinion and you have a right to it... though you might get shit on if you espouse it on boards like this. Factually, he broke laws. Whether or not one thinks those laws are just, they were nonetheless broken.
So, yes. Legally, he did do things wrong.
▶ No.94849>>94851 >>94929
>>94834
The laws are unjust and based off of personal bias. If we got rid of those laws our world could live in peace and harmony, rather than of violence and fighting. What we need to focus on is getting rid of guns from society, they have no good function.
▶ No.94851
>>94849
Guns kill commies like you, I'd say it's a pretty important function.
▶ No.94929>>94930
>>94849
Like I said. You can claim the laws are unjust but, either way, the guy broke them. As for banning all guns, that's also a topic over which you won't get much good, honest debate or discussion here; you really want one of Reddit's anti-firearms subs for that, or at least the "change my view" or "political debate" subs. But you suddenly throwing out that topic suggests you're looking for an argument; you didn't get one over "age-of-consent laws are unjust," so you double down on that AND throw "I think firearms should be banned" into the mix for good measure.
>>94830
I'm in the same boat. Don't send dick pics to someone you've never met. And no matter one's opinion on age-of-consent laws, don't send dick pics to a kid or a teen.
▶ No.94930>>94949 >>94968 >>94971
>>94929
>laws are never meant to be broken
go be a statist somewhere else
▶ No.94949
>>94930
>laws are never meant to be broken
I didn't say that, nor did I mean that. I said exactly what I meant: he broke laws, and got in hot water for doing so. Anything regarding breaking laws you feel are unjust, because you feel they're unjust, or for any other reason, goes into a realm of opinion and personal morals that's outside the scope of my point.
If you want to debate age-of-consent laws, you're of course welcome to try, though I've already given my opinion that this board isn't a place where you'll get the kind of discussion you may want, and I won't be participating in that discussion, wherever you hold it.
▶ No.94952>>94972 >>95016
>>94399
>And yet you still have droves of nufurfags eagerly and aggressivly wanting to allow children into the community/fandom
Most of the furry fandom is probably underage girls, there is dozens of youtuber young girls like Stariaat and Kittydog making videos and each one of them got hundreds of thousands followers, they are far more popular than anyone on furaffinity.
▶ No.94968
>>94930
This poster angers me
▶ No.94971
>>94930
UK HOME OF THE DONT DEFEND YOURSELF.
▶ No.94972
>>94952
kittydog draws yiff.
▶ No.94989
>>94664
Finally someone making logical sense in this thread. If only most of the first world were as smart as you.
People here just want what they dislike illegal, not what is wrong. There is nothing wrong about having a rough attraction, acting on it is a different story. You should be able to get help with your attraction. Unfortunately there is no help available currently for pedos, so it makes me laugh whenever an incident happens, because it is literally the community's fault for not at least offering a fair service or outlet. I mean if your beliefs cause a problem then that problem bites you in the ass it really is hard to offer you or your family any sympathy.
▶ No.95016>>95017
>>94952
>Most of the furry fandom is probably underage girls
No, it's not. Go to a con and see what kind of people attend.
>You should be able to get help with your attraction
I would love to see some kind of compassionate treatment for pedophilia. Treat them like they're humans, and help them get past their -philia. If they're going out, abducting and raping children, sure, throw the book at them; if they come and say, "I have this attraction and it hurts me, I need help," we need to help. Mental health treatment in general is shitty, and the stigma attached to needing treatment or having any kind of mental trouble is steep.
▶ No.95017>>95022
>>95016
Most people, when they say, “you need help,” are really just trying to politely say you’re a sicko that should be locked up and/or medicated or otherwise made to better fit their social paradigm.
Mental health is a shitshow but at least we don’t still put deaf people in insane asylums.
▶ No.95022
>>95017
Yep. Used to be, all sorts of people were put in sanatoriums. Deaf, blind, mute, mental health issues of any kind, low IQ, even women who were "frigid" (sex drive too low) or "hysterical" (sex drive too high), spinsters and widows, children who misbehaved habitually... Go back further and the poor, or anyone who couldn't work for any reason, were included.
The State Hospitals were, at least in the past, aimed at rehabilitation, and taught trades and had farms. But they got increasingly crowded until, uin the 1970s, most were found to be horrible places, with staff who were overworked at best, uncaring and abusive at worst. So the State Hospitals were closed, and instead of getting better care elsewhere, patients were just discharged and... that was it.
We need better-quality mental health care, but more than that, we need some sort of campaign designed to reduce the stigmas associated with needing that kind of care, seeking it, and having had it. So many of the problems the USA has can be fought with this. But, as with so many other issues, it costs time, money and effort we and our politicians aren't willing to spend.
▶ No.95034>>95039 >>95040
oh look another furry into this.
I am getting flashbacks to that other thread
when dose predator / pray start to mean something else
▶ No.95039
>>95034
please fucking shoot up the next furry con, this shit is retarded.
▶ No.95040>>95068
>>95034
that center video look at this smug motherfucker who thinks hes like some evil earth burning menace, fucking what a wannabe poser, if thats those two on the right in the third photo they look like fat nerds who deserve to be jailraped.
▶ No.95068>>95070
>>95040
Is this one of those youtube people that forgot podcasting is still a thing, and makes tons of hour long videos that are just voiceovers on screen caps and photo slideshows? Shit is unwatchable. Can you paraphrase the relevant 10 seconds for us?
Absolutely ok if you are unwilling. This whole thing is potentially not really worth the discussion anyway.
▶ No.95070>>95078
>>95068
keros fans meets guy who does evil things in the furry fandom, entirely animated.
▶ No.95078
>>95070
Fuck I should have kept looking. I couldn’t find anything that moved.
My attention span has been destroyed by the internet.