▶ No.74353>>74443
I think it needs to be obliterated with extreme excessive violence like everything that comes out of san francisco
▶ No.74356>>74363 >>74443
I love them because it turns gay pride marches from something to normalize homosexuality into a fetish parade that's painful to watch.
Why the fuck do people walk around in bondage gear during these things?
▶ No.74363>>74368 >>74442 >>74489 >>74602 >>74648 >>74763
>>74356
Pup players parade proudly in their bondage gear because it's a part of LGBT culture and they're proud of it. And a particularly important part of pride is paying no mind to the points of view of people who oppose you. Shocked onlookers need to get over themselves, stop being prude, and accept that it's 2018 and that there's no place for conservative Victorian-era social standards anymore.
▶ No.74368>>74370 >>74443
>>74363
>showing off degeneracy in public is supposed to somehow help your cause
epin
▶ No.74370>>74386 >>74442 >>74602 >>82748
>>74368
Calling it degeneracy (and seeing it as that) only happens in <3% of the population (those extremists far on the right). Frankly there's more of us than there is of you, so we have nothing to worry about. #LoveWins
▶ No.74372
what i've never understood about the appeal of doing this in public is that people usually want to make it normal, like it's just something casual you do
but as a fetish it only really makes sense to me if it's something abnormal, if people think "wait what?"
▶ No.74373
>>74352 (OP)
Hello, Patrick Lake!
▶ No.74386>>74418
>>74370
>oh no my sexual acts in public was called degenerate
>better call him a nazi and continue to suck dick in public
Nobody wants this. They may not say it to your face but the resentment is there.
Don't forget you're also in the <3% of the population.
▶ No.74406>>74411
I don't get it. The masks are not cute, so what's the point?
▶ No.74411>>74418 >>93400 >>93413
>>74406
Fur-suiters with a dog fursona don't actually act like the dog characters they dress up as. Their interest in being a dog is only fur deep. Pup players, on the other paw, actually roleplay as the characters they're dressed as. The masks are meant to be practical and minimal. The subculture is sadly misunderstood. Watch this video.
▶ No.74418>>74442 >>74486 >>74494 >>74594
>>74386
>Don't forget you're also in the <3% of the population
When it was only fags, sure. When they added in the L and B and T, it probably shot up to 5% or more. Now that they've added in literally every single sexual orientation or gender identity under the fucking sun except for straightedges, they're probably in the MAJORITY. It's like when racists claim that whites have the majority, just because they have absorbed almost every racial group except for Asians and blacks.
>>74411
That's not how it is at all. It's just bondage; the entire point is to be humiliated by being treated "like a dog", except it's the 1900s and dogs are beaten and starved and made to lick shit off the floor, rather than being loved companions.
▶ No.74429
Puppy play masks belong in the bedroom and not in public especially when at a con.
▶ No.74442>>74443 >>74473
>>74370
>>74418
>>74363
People like you are the reason im ashamed for my sexuality. And i hope with all my heart for a world wide nazi uprising. I know it will hit people that dont deserve it, but only a few since nobody ever notices them because they behave like normal people.
I'd rather become a full flexed nazi party member and put my sexuality into the closet never to be opened again, than to put up with people like you for a single day. The day of the rope will come and i will be one of those evil people hunting you.
▶ No.74443>>74565 >>93464
>>74353
>>74356
>>74368
>>74442
replace anime with furries ofc
▶ No.74452
>>74445
A fucking classic, 200% true.
▶ No.74473>>74500 >>74590
>>74442
If you're ashamed of your sexuality, that's a personal problem. Everything else is just you being a retard teenaged edgelord.
▶ No.74486
>>74418
>When they added 3 other groups it shot up 2 whole percent.
>When they added mostly 1 off genders it suddenly rose to a majority somehow.
This is why you aren't 50 points ahead.
▶ No.74489>>74591
>>74363
Listen, I'm a rampant xenophile who loves sloppy lizard cloacas. But i'd never show that shit to anyone in public. I'd never carry around a fantasy dragon cunt, or wear a shirt with the image of a tied up and used dragoness.
Some standards are needed.
Don't drag sex shit into the public eye.
It's for the same reason that I'd not like seeing scat, or guro, or other shit like that. Some people don't want to see my shit. Be considerate to others, you selfish faggot.
▶ No.74490
Proxy go home you're drunk
▶ No.74494>>74509
>>74418
For the record, race realists don't consider Jews, hispanics, or other groups to be white. "White Other" on those stupid census groups have included 30 or more traditionally nonwhite/indigenous groups in them
▶ No.74500>>74509
>>74473
>it's "edgy" to not to wear bondage gear on the streets
You're dumb and have no tact whatsoever. If you have no respect for yourself, then others won't have respect for you either.
▶ No.74509>>74513
>>74494
Well, "race realists" better accept that the actual white race is less than 1% of the population and almost certainly doesn't include them.
>>74500
I was talking about you being a wannabe Nazi murderer. Oh, and I really love how you think "full-fledged" is actually "full flexed". Gave me a good laugh.
▶ No.74513>>74579
>>74509
>Well, "race realists" better accept that the actual white race is less than 1% of the population and almost certainly doesn't include them.
Lmao, you have a stricter purity test than any race realist group in history. I don't like them, but you have a distorted perspective of them from playing Wolfenstein.
>I was talking about you being a wannabe Nazi murderer. Oh, and I really love how you think "full-fledged" is actually "full flexed". Gave me a good laugh.
I'm a different user. I just think that you have a serious case of cognitive dissonance for finding his comment more degrading than being treated like a literal dog. You would find it inoffensive if he said that phrase to you while you were on a leash, mainly because you lack self-respect for yourself.
▶ No.74555
>>74352 (OP)
unironically hot as fuck
▶ No.74565
>>74443
>no "in public" stipulation
>so lasy he can't edit it himself
-1/10
no effort
▶ No.74579
>>74513
The "white" race are pure English protestants descended entirely from Saxon blood. That was the original definition before they started cramming in other ethnic groups based on a laughably insipid metric as an arbitrary cutoff of skin color. It's not like it's my opinion or anything.
While we're talking about "other posters", where did you get the idea I'm OP or want anything to do with this silly fetish? All I'm doing is providing FUCKING DEFINITIONS!
▶ No.74590
>>74473
I don't think it's shame, as much as disgust at being linked to people as seen in OP's jazz.
I'm certainly not ashamed of my sexuality, but, if I were linked to something like this, I'd be quite upset too.
Picture it as though you're a part of a political party that also is known for producing nazis and KKK members.
People're going to think of those nazis and KKK members every time when you tell them about your political affiliation. Does your dislike for those parts and desire to get rid of them mean that you are ashamed of your political beliefs?
I certainly don't think so.
▶ No.74591
>>74489
>Be considerate to others, you selfish faggot.
I wholeheartedly agree. I'm into some pretty 'degenerate shit', but I don't shove it in people's faces. Hell, no one I meet even knows I'm bi. I don't talk with that stupid effeminate voice or act like a walking porno. I do normal things and act normal and that's how I'm perceived.
I think some people like being persecuted. They like the attention, but they can't fully admit their personality is that shitty, so they act indignant, all the same.
This attracts SJWs whom have a need to virtue signal to feed their own egos. Attention whores and egotists teaming up against normal people, basically.
▶ No.74594>>74599
>>74418
I dislike some of the BDSM stereotypes.
>Dominatrixes have to be cruel post-modernist archetypes. They can't be loving mothers/queens who sympathize with their 'slave', 'pet', etc. Also, they have to be greedy as shit, because that's such a desirable thing to have in a relationship.
Yes, I said mother-type. It's my Oedipus complex, I can do what I want with it!
>Pups have to either be pets or 'abused'
What if I want both? Spoiler: I'm not actually a dog, ffs. It's not 'simulated animal cruelty'.
I can be a pet and get pleasure from humiliation and submission because I'm a sentient person wearing a muzzle in a bedroom, not actually a dog. Mind = blown.
▶ No.74599
>>74594
Have to agree there. People've got this rather unfortunate look on submission/domination jazz. Has to be a violent, cruel lot, coated in insults and disdain.
I just want a qt dragon to take me as a part of her hoard, giving me all the love and affection one reserves for their most treasured possession.
No need for insults and disdain as, why would you ever demean a beloved gemstone, or a favorite carving?
No need for violence and cruelty, as, why would you ever risk damaging a priceless statue , or a treasured artifact?
▶ No.74602>>74607 >>74609 >>74652
>>74370
>>74352 (OP)
>>74363
It's only kink gear, not even furry.
Keep it in the hotel ROOM not the lobby, freaks.
I know furry couples who won't Con anymore because they're not comfortable bringing their kids anymore. It's on par with the diaper-fags.QmiFt
▶ No.74607>>74613 >>74621
>>74602
>Bringing kids to a sex con
▶ No.74609>>74613
>>74602
>kinks in public are bad
>but you should be able to bring your kids into a kink con
▶ No.74613>>74616 >>74617 >>74633
>>74607
>>74609
>muh depravity is the status quo
They weren't kink cons before. Freakshows have turned fur cons into kink cons.
▶ No.74616>>74619
>>74613
They were always kink cons.
▶ No.74617>>74619
>>74613
Hmm... I'm sure there's a place for 'art-only furries', but I highly doubt most cons are 'art-only'. You don't take kids to a BDSM club. You don't take them to cons where people will be fucking in fursuits.
▶ No.74619
>>74616
>>74617
>B-b-but muh depravity
Minors can attend most furcons while accompanied by an adult and a signed consent form. Adult oriented materials are relegated to adult only sections of the convention space with no minor admittance.
If these were purely kink cons, no minors would be allowed period and kink materials would be displayed openly.
Degen's should stay behind closed doors at fur cons because its not a kink con.
▶ No.74621>>74622 >>74647
>>74607
We cubfurs need something to enjoy too
▶ No.74622>>74623
>>74621
A short rope and a long fall.
▶ No.74623
>>74622
I don't know if that's a valid method to make my dick longer.
▶ No.74633
>>74613
golden age furs who say furry wasn't about sex from the very beginning are fucking liars and should go to a retirement community already
▶ No.74647
>>74621
Kids aren't cubs; don't be stupid.
Now, if they put their kids into mini-fursuits, that would be completely different...
▶ No.74648>>74650
>>74363
its not lgbt you fucking idiot its bdsm
fetish gear has no place in pride parades
▶ No.74650>>74651 >>74653 >>74830
>>74648
If you can't tell that post is /pol/ pretending to be an SJW stereotype you're gullible pal.
However, I'd much rather have kinksters and freaks at Pride than cops and advertisers. As gay people are assimilated into society more we're losing our identity of non conformism.
▶ No.74651
>>74650
>he was only pretending to be retarded
epic
▶ No.74652
>>74602
>I know furry couples who won't Con anymore because they're not comfortable bringing their kids anymore.
good
even if furry wasn't purely a vapid consumerist sex-a-thon bringing kids would still be stupid. if you want animals to teach your kids the way to salvation is throwing lots of money at creatives who've long since lost the will to live, take them to fucking epcot. at least that way if one of the mice touches them you'll get a fat stack of cash out of it.
▶ No.74653
>>74650
I hope this is bait, because I don't want to believe people are this cancerous.
▶ No.74763>>74795
>>74352 (OP)
I don't understand why people are into pup play. Pet play is a much better tamer form minus the creepy ass masks. It's a fetish for diet furries with a leather fetish.
Also pet play fucks don't go out in public and push their kink onto children like.
>>74363
then again children being exploited at a gay pride parade isn't anything new honestly
▶ No.74777
I love it in art where the character is an actual dog anthro, but in real life it creeps me out.
▶ No.74795>>74828
>>74763
>Sam Hyde cuck
I dont care what you wrote, you opinion is immediately discarded
▶ No.74828
>>74795
>Sam Hyde cuck
Oh fuck yes anon I love the thought of sam hyde busting down my door and fucking my wife's brains out while I sit in a corner and distract myself bing bing wahoo that my wife gifted me after getting a vasectomy.
Sam Hyde is worlds more alpha than me and I want him to take my wife as the ultimate dom, only through his permission will I be able to even consider looking at my wife.
▶ No.74830>>74834
>>74650
As a fag myself I want cops gone from Pride parades too just so I can watch reactionaries beat the fuck out of 35-year-old boomers in assless chaps who think making a rainbow popsicle shaped like a starpon and getting kids to lick it is acceptable because "fuck conformity!"
▶ No.74834>>74837
>>74830
Literally tilting at windmills. It's the guys in suits that abuse kids not the guys trying to attract all the attention they can. That's about the last person in the room you need to be afraid of.
Mainstream culture is fucking garbage, I have no desire to appeal to it.
▶ No.74837>>74857 >>74894 >>75480
>>74834
>It's not the guys abusing kids in public for their degenerate pleasure and vendetta against mainstream society who are the problem; it's people who act like human beings who want that shit stopped how are the problem
Deport yourself or buy a rope if you hate your people and their mores so much
▶ No.74857>>74861 >>74895 >>74997
>>74837
If you can't make a gay person straight, then you can't make a straight kid gay. Simple.
▶ No.74861>>74866 >>74897
>>74857
I never bought that "you are born gay" stuff anyway.
I mean, it isn't really a "choice" either, but, it's based on experience by a bulk I'd say.
▶ No.74866>>74887
>>74861
> I'd say.
But do you have anything to back that up?
▶ No.74887
>>74866
Personal experience, dealing with other individuals and hearing their stories, and, frankly, the complete lack of any evidence I've been able to find suggesting it's biological.
That is, it seems like the bulk of things either don't seem to prove it, or just assume it from the get go.
There may be biological leanings, though it's a bit hard to say if that's an actual leaning or if it's just a starting point more to the scenario or situation wherein it's more likely to grow to be gay.
▶ No.74894>>74996
>>74837
>a weird looking person seemingly coming right from a surreal fairytale shows some bored-ass kids books, but they just wanna go home and fuck some whores in GTA
>totally sexual
▶ No.74895
>>74857
One day guys, I'll be there for you.
▶ No.74897>>74901 >>74925
>>74861
Most likely a person isn't "born" gay; that's a strawman. But the evidence points to it being very similar to other personality traits, in that they're set down by the time they are a couple years in age, coalescing from a range of possibilities that aren't the entire spectrum of orientations to begin with.
But the point still stands: you can't make someone who is going to be straight into a faggot just by telling them that gays exist, when they're in the third grade.
As for "indoctrination", how's about people that shove worship of Christ, or guns, or political propaganda into the hands of five-year-olds? Why does hardly anyone seem to have a problem with that?
▶ No.74901>>74924 >>74941
>>74897
That's what a lot of people try to say, mate. I don't think you can call it a strawman. I've been accused of homophobia for simply suggesting it comes up in ones development, as opposed to birth.
>As for "indoctrination", how's about people that shove worship of Christ, or guns, or political propaganda into the hands of five-year-olds? Why does hardly anyone seem to have a problem with that?
Well, if they were being forced in by state-sponsored groups or schools, I guess I would have a problem with that.
I don't really want the state indoctrinating my kids on anything.
▶ No.74924>>74926 >>74942
Hello >>74901
My name is Bernice. I have hair and I enjoy: economy of Turkey (1955-1967). I have considered the statements you made in your post on the subject of: homophobia, indoctrination, development. I have concluded that I agree with your statements. I also agree with this similar statement:
"At school, children should not be forced to adopt opinions that their parents do not hold."
Do you agree with this statement as well? Please begin your reply with "I agree" or "I disagree" then explain your reason.
I have enjoyed replying to your post and I hope you will enjoy replying to mine.
▶ No.74925>>74941
>>74897
>muh guns are baed
Yeah, I too want the government to steamroll me every time I say something that they don't like.
▶ No.74926>>75056
>>74924
kill yourself my dude
▶ No.74941>>74948 >>74965 >>74996 >>75139 >>75146
>>74901
>if they were being forced in by state-sponsored groups or schools
Where the FUCK is there any state-sponsored schools teaching ANYTHING about gays?? There's plenty that teach the Bible, or have prayer in classrooms, though.
>>74925
Your pitiful little guns couldn't do a motherfucking thing if the government wanted your ass, and you fucking know it. Ordinary cops could just break down your door and drag your retard ass out of bed in the middle of the night. What are you gonna do? Resist...? Don't make me fucking laugh.
▶ No.74942>>75056
>>74924
At school, nobody should be forced to adopt any opinion.
People should simply be presented with objective information, and how to find it.
They should form their own opinions.
▶ No.74947
>>74352 (OP)
but doodleboy owo
▶ No.74948
>>74941
Ah, it's this vintage FUDpost.
▶ No.74965>>74989 >>75056
>>74941
>there's plenty that teach the Bible
Nope.
>pitiful little guns
Can't help but go full liberal philosemite. Can you?
▶ No.74989>>74995
>>74965
You dumb nigger cunt, I went to a public school in CALIFORNIA of all places, and we still learned about the Bible (though we studies it as Literature and not as History). You know what we never studied? Any piece of media, ever, with any homosexual of any kind.
So don't you fucking tell me there aren't schools in the Deep South that aren't pounding Jesus into the skulls of every kid, because you know goddamn well there is.
▶ No.74995
>>74989
Don't know about homosexuality, but, I do know there's a lot of schools teaching all kinds of cancerous garbage like 'white privilege' these days.
▶ No.74996>>74999
>>74382
>Cheaper
Mind telling me where you're finding pup masks for less than like 300$?
>>74894
That's a drag queen, Which is why they look like such a freakshow.
>>74941
>You don't stand a chance against even the cops
Maybe if you're alone when they come, but if you're standing your ground with your friendly neighborhood militia, Those cops are gonna be in for a fight. Hate to sound like a broken record but... *Raughs in Vietnamese*
▶ No.74997>>74999
>>74857
Most gays were molested by homosexual pedophiles as children themselves. Feel free to stop lying any time.
▶ No.74999>>75004 >>75053 >>75058
>>74996
The Vietnamese were willing to die in a hopeless fight to beat the enemy by dragging out the war for so long that they tired of it. And they did die --- by many estimates around two MILLION. Do you really think Americans are going to do that...? Don't be stupid. You'd stand up and wave your little guns, and then the cops shoot one of you, and the rest will quietly give up. Americans are cowards.
>>74997
Right. And the only way you get straight people is by having them get molested by heterosexual pedophiles. Or do the heterosexual pedophiles ALSO create homosexuals, somehow. You're going to have to explain this a little better, because there's some loose ends that need tidying up before I'm going to accept this as a scientific hypothesis.
▶ No.75004
>>74999
Difference in Vietnam is, it was okay to napalm cities and villages, and none of the government's infrastructure was at risk.
▶ No.75053
>>74999
What a waste of trips.
▶ No.75056
>>74942
>>74926
>replying to a bot
>>74965
Can you fags stop talking about jews? you're projecting everywhere, burgermutt.
▶ No.75058>>75059 >>75078 >>75084
>>74999
Mate we would have won the war had it not been for the fact that liberals wanted our soldiers back and interned systematically abused or soldiers when they finally came back ultimately culminating until the America we have now but it doesn't matter because we can kick your ass any day
▶ No.75059
▶ No.75078>>75137
>>75058
Literally no one wanted to keep fighting in Vietnam.
▶ No.75084>>75137 >>75138
>>75058
Won the war? How...? By killing literally every single person in the entire fucking country of (the former) North Vietnam until there was nobody left to prevent planting of the American flag? Don't be a retard. The USA has lost EVERY. SINGLE. WAR. since WWII.
▶ No.75137>>75179
>>75078
>Surprised that a 20 year long "war" on trees and dirt in the middle of nowhere wasn't popular with the US population.
>>75084
That's generally how war works actually, if you aren't willing to do that you aren't going to win a war.
Furthermore it was to protect French (initial reason we got into Vietnam) and South Vietnamese (Vietnamese that fled the communists, part of the reason we stayed for so long) interests.
▶ No.75138>>75148
>>75084
>By killing literally every single person in the entire fucking country of (the former) North Vietnam until there was nobody left to prevent planting of the American flag?
By killing the last of the VC because they lost support from North Vietnam after an incident where they slaughtered at least 10,000 civilians after the Tet offensive.
We were close too, a day or two more and we would have done it, they were running out of supply and running out of men because we were killing much more than they were us.
▶ No.75139>>75145 >>75179 >>75181
>>74941
>Ordinary cops could just break down your door and drag your retard ass out of bed in the middle of the night. What are you gonna do? Resist...?
yeah
If it comes to it, I will resist and die for my principals.
I won't be held captive for political dissidence, much more than you could say, huh.
▶ No.75145
>>75139
>If it comes to it, I will resist and die for my principals.
▶ No.75146
>>74941
is this the part where we pretend civil wars, revolts and the like have never happened in history ever?
I guess Italy doesn't exist amiright? :/
▶ No.75148>>75185
>>75138
>We were close too, a day or two more and we would have done it
Imagine being this boomer-lusional
▶ No.75179>>75185 >>75696
>>75137
That's not at all true. Historically, wars are about conquering a government. Once you kill the leader or force him to surrender, the war is over; and one tactic to do this (for example: the atomic bombings of Japan) is to start slaughtering the civilian population. But every war since then has been a war AGAINST the "civilian" population, and there is no central governing body to force to surrender. There may be temporary heads of an organization, like al Qaeda or ISIS, but they will just appoint a new leader if one is killed. Ending this threat through warfare can only be (theoretically) accomplished through killing every single member, and that's basically impossible, and most certainly impractical. There's also nothing stopping it from popping up again later, unless you occupy the entire country in perpetuity.
>>75139
>I will resist and die for my principals
What a laugh. You are a retarded delusional teenager that will curl in a ball and piss himself if someone so much as threatens to take away your iPhone.
▶ No.75181
▶ No.75185>>75194 >>75219
>>75179
>projecting this hard
>>75148
Yeah, because losing the supply chain worked out so well for Napoleon in Russia.
▶ No.75194>>75203
>>75185
Napoleon in Russia... So, like, an occupying army in enemy territory?
▶ No.75203
>>75194
So like losing your damn supply squad while you're hemorrhaging troops 10:1.
▶ No.75218
Remember that time all the pup players invaded that one country? Neither do I.
▶ No.75219
>>75185
>No u!
Is this nigga serious?
▶ No.75428
▶ No.75480>>75583 >>75630
>>74837
>>74837
That kid is at illegal levels of hot
▶ No.75583
▶ No.75620
>>74352 (OP)
Scorpupion: BARK OVER HERE!
▶ No.75636>>75679
>>75630
>It's perfectly okay for prepubescent girls to dress up and dance like sluts in pageants
>But if a boy does it, that's evil
Welcome to 'Murrica. Where child rape is a-okay, as long as it's not GAY!
▶ No.75679>>75690
>>75636
>>It's perfectly okay for prepubescent girls to dress up and dance like sluts in pageants
nice assumption nigger
▶ No.75690>>75696 >>75700 >>75754
>>75679
It's on cable TV every single day, numb nuts. Tell me the last time you saw a gay boy on TV anywhere.
▶ No.75696>>75752
>>75179
I'm telling you what you have to be willing to do to win a war.
>>75690
So since it's on some channel on cable TV that means it's Okay?
▶ No.75700>>75814
>>75690
>Still has cable
Grandpa? Is that you?
Like nobody even knows what fucking show you're talking about. Are you talking about Honey Boo Boo? 'Cause last I checked nobody was saying that Honey Boo Boo was any shining example of American values except for salty europoors who shit on America because we left them like the stupid ex-girlfriend they are.
▶ No.75752
>>75696
No war has ever been won by murdering the entirety of the other side. That's not war --- it's genocide.
>it's on some channel on cable TV that means it's Okay
By the metric of society writ large accepting it, yes. That's the only definition that holds any actual weight, unlike, say, some retard on an imageboard with his meaningless personal opinion. If something's on daytime TV, it means that the people of the country generally accept it's okay to expose to everyone, even their own children.
▶ No.75754
>>75690
>it's on tv so it's OK
sure thing schlomo
▶ No.75814>>75848 >>75902 >>76206
>>75700
>salty europoors
At least I can go to the supermarket without getting shot.
But seriously it's not just Honey Boo Boo, child and teen pageants are rampant, along with creepy purity balls and shit for dads that wish they could fuck their daughters.
▶ No.75822
>the absolute state of this thread
▶ No.75848>>75902
>>75814
whose flag is on the moon?
▶ No.75902>>75905 >>75943
>>75814
>At least I can go to the supermarket without getting shot
Seriously.
The King of Holland goes around town on his bike, shops in ordinary stores and says hello to the people, and doesn't worry about anything. The President of the USA has to be protected by a gigantic team of security and hidden inside a bulletproof car else he'll be assassinated. Americans don't realize that what they think of North Koreans, the world thinks about them. It's a joke.
>>75848
Nobody's flag is on the moon. Nearly fifty years of unfiltered sunlight exposure has bleached all of them white. But it's kinda funny that you'd focus on something like that, when it was all those Jewish rocket scientists that put the USA there in the first place.
▶ No.75905>>75938
>>75902
>your country's achievement doesn't count because (insert obtuse reason)
▶ No.75938>>75940 >>75963
>>75905
>Your racist and immigrant-hating country's achievement that was accomplished with the assistance of immigrants and non-white races doesn't count
You're damn fucking right.
Also, there are two other countries that don't use the metric system besides the USA, and they have not been to the moon. So the American retard who made that poster made himself look like an ignorant retard. That's irony!
▶ No.75940
>>75938
>going to the moon doesn't count as an achievement for you unless literally every single employee working at NASA at the time was a straight white male
Lemme guess, you voted for Hillary.
▶ No.75943>>75947 >>76084
>>75902
The King of Holland is also a living tourist attraction with no factual power in government and hasn't had any for over 150 years. Meanwhile the POTUS legally bears responsibility for over 1/3rd of the governing duties of the United States' government.
>all those Jewish rocket scientists that put he USA there
<If they're Jews, they aren't really American
<To defeat /pol/ I must go /pol/ Plus Ultra
Sage because I can't not reply to something this gaytarded but it's still off-topic.
▶ No.75947
>>75943
>To defeat /pol/ I must go /pol/ Plus Ultra
MY SIDES
▶ No.75963>>76084
>>75938
>immigrant-hating country'
We accept more immigrants in a year than most countries do in a decade, we're the only country with natural born citizenship (if you're plopped out a foot on US soil, you get citizenship) and the only country with an immigrant lottery (we let a few thousand a year in just for applying), and we don't have any laws requiring them to even speak english. Yeah the republicans treat the mexican border issue way to seriously and are racist fuckheads (the child in cages thing is abhorrent), but most countries that waggle their finger at us don't have an entire continent trying to get over their border. As someone who lives in a border state, it seems the further you move away from the US-Mexico border the more people seem to get smugly liberal about open border policy despite not having to deal with the consequences of mass amounts of poor, non-english speaking people who will work under the table and drive down wages. Hell Canada has deported people trying to get cheaper meds for their DYING relatives, and no one gives a shit. It's harder for the average american (remember the average american is not upper middle class, they're more like a poor family in bumbfuck alabama) to immigrate to Canada or Europe than it is for anyone in south america to immigrate here.
▶ No.76084>>76116
>>75943
<If they're Jews, they aren't really American
Your argument, not mine.
>>75963
>not having to deal with the consequences of mass amounts of poor, non-english speaking people who will work under the table and drive down wages
B-b-but MUH FREE MARKET!!!!!
▶ No.76090>>76106
>>76088
Do the Irish have religious texts saying how the gentiles are less than animals?
▶ No.76106>>76206
>>76090
The Talmudic phrases you are referring to, where they aren't forgeries centuries after the fact, are part of a Rabbinical dialectic in which one party is playing Devil's Advocate. This is deliberate because the Jewish community of the time was dealing with the prospect of being in diaspora until who knew when and people acting like they could be as super kike as they wanted regardless were causing problems.
Source: Nobody hates Jews more than other Jews. Just take my word for it.
▶ No.76113
>>74352 (OP)
Why the fuck they all got gross ass unibrows.
The masks would look a lot better with some kind of brow. Maybe like Rottweiler spots or something.
Also why do lots of them think it's not a fetish thing?
▶ No.76116
>>76084
>B-b-but MUH FREE MARKET!!!!!
I'm not alt-right and I don't give a shit about the free market.
▶ No.76206>>76245 >>76249
>>75814
>At least I can go to the supermarket without getting shot.
But can you go to the shops without being run over by a semi or a "laurie" as you people call it driven by a mudslime?
>>76106
>are part of a Rabbinical dialectic in which one party is playing Devil's Advocate
Apparently someone forgot to tell your fellow kikes that, so as a result they'll need to be shoahed for real this time.
▶ No.76245>>76512
>>76206
I could not care less about leftist Jews. They're so self-loathing that they'll probably thank you for the chance to burn.
As for me and my family, we're armed, so come take your best shot. Never met a WN who looked like his jello arms could handle recoil anyhow.
▶ No.76249>>76512
>>76206
>Tens of thousands of people get shot in America
>Three people get run over by a truck in England
>SEE! YOU GUYS HAVE IT JUST AS BAD!!!
You really are an idiot.
▶ No.76512>>77978
>>76245
You're still a kike like (((kuntzman))) so I expect your ear drums to explode from a firecracker going off in the next state over.
Got anything else smart to say Moshe or do you think this is enough shit throwing?
>>76249
Oh you wanna play that game I see, then shitskins killing shitskins doesn't count and we have one of the lowest crime rates on Earth AND have some of the highest test scores etc. etc. etc.
The US would blaze past you (we already do but it's currently like an adult outrunning a child) euro-peons if we don't have niggers and spics holding us back.
▶ No.77978>>78035
>>76512
>White people never get shot in America
>He thinks American white test scores are as good as European white test scores
>Implying there's any such thing as white people in America who don't have some nigger in their ancestry in the first place
>Implying the leader of the USA isn't the biggest retard in the entire world and a perfect figurehead for the country at large
So your best argument for why America isn't good is because you're... not European enough? That's a funny one.
▶ No.77993
>>74352 (OP)
so disgusting i dont want to get near.
i rather fuck a murrsuiter than these leather fetish faggots.
▶ No.78035>>78097 >>78158
>>77978
>Considering it's on par with statistical errors, yes whites don't get shot despite having more guns than people.
>Implying they aren't at bare minimum the same or better.
>Implying America isn't whiter than your euro-peon caliphate country.
>Implying the cheeto even matters, so long as he spooks spics he's done his job.
No America is still the best even in our reduced state, though if it was WHITER (not bigger cucks like euro-peons think is the way to do things) we could really do some cool shit.
▶ No.78097>>78158 >>78254 >>78314 >>78698
>>78035
>He actually thinks America is whiter than all Western European countries
>He thinks the fact that statistics say lots of people have dozens of guns locked in a cabinet somewhere, somehow means gun deaths don't matter
Here's a factoid for you. The last year for which there are statistics for it, there were ZERO home-invasion robberies in the USA where the homeowner was killed. But a few hundred children or teenagers were killed using their parents' guns (mostly accident for the younger ones, then trending up to mostly suicide). You're putting your kids at a (small) measurable risk to protect yourself from a boogyman.
▶ No.78158>>78230 >>78251
>>78035
>1000000 defensive gun uses per year
I always thought it weird how there are more "defensive" gun uses per year than violent crimes where they could be used to defend someone. It's almost as though ammosexuals are lying and love to escalate situations unnecessarily.
For every justifiable homicide committed with a firearm there are 40 murders committed with firearms. That's a 97.5% failure rate; one that makes even the TSA's bomb detectors blush.
>>78097
>You're putting your kids at a (small) measurable risk to protect yourself from a boogyman.
Not to mention that simply having a firearm in the home makes you more likely to commit suicide or domestic violence.
▶ No.78230>>78252 >>78314
>>78158
Don't forget how they honestly, really, actually think that every problem with guns can be solved by adding more guns. School shootings? Get some security in there with guns. The security shoots up the school? Give all the teachers guns. What are they going to say when one of these teachers inevitably loses his shit, and shoots up a school with the gun they gave him to defend the kids? That we should ARM THE CHILDREN?? No joke, plenty of the people who both have guns and have kids would see absolutely nothing wrong with sending their seven-year-old to school with a sidearm.
Can you imagine a world where every single person owns a gun? It's terrifying, because a lot of people have no restraint, and there is almost never a time when pulling a gun DE-escalates a situation. Every single altercation, from a bar brawl to road-rage to protests, would turn into a bloodbath, because once ONE person starts shooting, EVERYONE would start shooting.
▶ No.78251>>78677
>>78158
From what I understand, the number's estimated. But, keep in mind, defensive use does not necessarily equate to a homicide.
What's your evidence for the claim that there's 40 murders for every justifiable homicide, anyway? I don't think I've seen a source for that. And, of course, that's leaving off the whole issue of that murderers and responsible gun owners are not the same group.
▶ No.78252>>78677
>>78230
What's your solution for school shootings? Ban guns? Won't that create a heap of problems elsewhere?
Allowing teachers to carry seems to increase the likelyhood someone within the school can fight back. Seems sensible to me.
School shootings are rare as fuck, anyway. What makes you think, though, that a teacher or security officer is going to do it, anyway? Has there been any evidence to suggest that as a possibility?
Maybe YOU have no restraint, but, fortunately, most people are not such terrible people. Most people can handle a bit of responsibility. Leaving off that, the argument of escalation is autistic, and demonstrates a clear lack of rational thought.
Why would I start shooting someone else, because two people happened to shoot eachother? Why would I risk getting in to a road-rage incident in the first place, if I could be shot as a result? Why would I draw in a bar brawl against dozens of other patrons? It's retarded.
Oh, and the notion that a gun never deescalates a situation is just a flat out lie. Again, a clear demonstration that someone lacks any rational or reasonable thought. There are countless stories where someone drew on a criminal and that criminal ran away.
The problem here isn't guns. It's retarded leftists who don't actually think.
▶ No.78254>>78314 >>78677
>>78097
You put in any thought as to why there are so few home invasions in the US?
You can look elsewhere in the world and see it still happens often. Only, in the US, most people have a gun. Most houses you're likely to run in to something. You're pretty likely to get shot.
As to suicide, I simply do not care.
I am a firm believer that suicide is the right of the individual who decides to end their life.
If you do not have the right to determine when your life should end, you do not have any sovereignty over yourself. You are a slave, plain and simple.
▶ No.78307>>78324
>>74352 (OP)
https://youtu.be/OfjZkcIyLqo?t=6m39s
For me, personally, pretty fucking cringey and uncomfortable.
▶ No.78314
>>78097
>Implying an insignificant statistical error sized number of gun deaths matter.
>Supporting my point for me.
>Not teaching your kids anything.
Look at all these leftist talking points that either don't matter or prove my point.
>>78230
>because a lot of people have no restraint
Speaking from experience subhuman?
>>78254
Another thing is if a person's brain is so defective they seriously consider suicide a good idea (the exceptions are people so horribly maimed that death would be better or someone who lost their entire family) they're doing Humanity a favor by removing their defective genes from the gene pool.
▶ No.78324
>>78307
I agree. I wouldn't mind if it was a private party "behind closed doors" thing but pupfags seem to get a kick out of acting out in public.Do your bondage shit in private you fucking retards
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▶ No.78677>>78698
>>78251
>murderers and responsible gun owners are not the same group
Why not? The issue has always been, and REMAINS, this delusion that "good people" and "bad people" can be separated for perpetuity. In order to prevent mass shootings, all one has to do is keep guns out of the hands of the bad people. They're always trying to find the "reason" why someone commits mass-murder. Oh, it's because he was a minority, or a liberal, or had a "mental disease". They can never bring themselves to admit that almost anyone can suddenly one day up and decide to start shooting, and there is almost never any way to predict it. There is no such thing as good or bad people. You CAN'T FUCKING SORT THEM. Eventually it comes down to thoughtcrime. You cannot prosecute someone for a shooting which they have not committed, and that INCLUDES infringing upon their right to own guns, same as everyone else. Even if, rhetorically speaking, they found a "murder gene" or some malformation in the brain that always caused murderous feelings (and never in anyone who didn't have it) it would be in violation of their second amendment rights to thereafter disallow them to own guns.
Fingerpointing at certain groups and pretending as if it's relevant is not only erroneous, but ineffective even in fantasy.
>>78252
Banning guns won't work because of retards who would rather die than give up their guns. As effective as it would be, you can expect getting the army to go around door-to-door confiscating everyone's guns would end in anything but a bloodbath. The only rational solution would be to limit the types of guns available, but that wouldn't do anything for people who already own large amounts. The best method with what we currently have --- a godawful mess that's gone 100 years out of control — is to tax the shit out of ammunition. You want to buy a box of bullets at WalMart. Sure! But it'll cost you a grand. And the idea that this would somehow cause a black-market industry of ammunition sales on the streets is laughably naive. Besides, it's always ordinary people committing mass shootings and school shootings, not gang bangers and other criminal elements.
>>78254
There are few home invasions in countries with lesser gun ownership than the USA, and more in countries with higher gun ownership. End of argument.
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▶ No.78698>>79475
>>78677
Probably because there always IS a reason, you utter mongoloid. The vast majority of folk aren't going to suddenly turn into loony murderers. You can look at the people who do these things, and quite clearly see that they ain't normal people.
If you genuinely think that anyone can suddenly turn coat and shoot up a place, you might have some major mental issues, and should probably check yourself in to a clinic, as it's likely you're a danger to everyone around you.
Anyway; All this said, I do agree with you that you shouldn't prosecute someone for something they haven't done. I agree completely in that regard. It's not something I would advocate for.
Rather, what I advocate for is giving people means to protect themselves, and punishing the people who do commit crimes, rather than honest citizens who haven't done anything wrong.
Fingerpointing at criminals and saying "These are not representative of gun owners" is perfectly valid. Because they aren't. Usually, they don't even get their firearms legally.
If you tax the shit out of ammo, people'll just get in to reloading. But, of course, that assumes people'll let you tax the shit out of ammo. I personally rather doubt it. People tend to vote out assholes in power who want to control their populace through tyrannical means.
Oh, and, yes, there would be a black market for ammo, as I for one would certainly use my own knowledge of ammunition manufacturing to help arm my fellow Americans against the tyrannical regime that wishes to do away with our means of defense.
Especially if I can turn a profit for it.
You didn't bother giving a source, and this is directly contrary to the last post >>78097 , but, if we assume that's true, that's just more reason to allow people to own firearms to protect their homes.
▶ No.79065>>79480
there is human trafficking involved in this shit.
▶ No.79475>>82743
>>78698
>You can look at the people who do these things, and quite clearly see that they ain't normal people
Oh really? So you can just stick them in a lineup and point out and say "Yes, that person definitely looks like a mass-murderer!"
Why the fuck aren't you working for the FBI, identifying potential shooters, then? Idiot.
And if you think that you're a saint who will never murder anyone, answer me this: a violent gang has kidnapped your daughter, and will kill her unless you mow them all down. The fact that you own guns and are trigger-happy desperate for an excuse to use them speaks volumes. You'd do it, of course. See? The potential for murder exists in everyone; it only requires a "reason".
Oh, but you're not a "bad guy", you're just protecting someone. Right? Okay. Now suppose that the violent gang is citizens of your country who oppose your views and are helping the government to oppress your fellow like-minded Americans. They will definitely pass fascist laws unless you personally step up and give your life shooting some of those godless heathen liberals, both to make a statement and garner support that will start a movement to end those laws. Would you do it? Maybe, maybe not. But I guarantee it sounds like a pretty good "reason" to you.
My point is, everyone who ever committed mass-murder had a "reason" for it. Hitler had his reasons, and so did everyone else who went along with it. Maybe it wasn't a very good reason, but telling someone their reasons are wrong is a futile and pointless as arguing politics and religion. Besides, from their perspective your reasons are equally bullshit. Maybe some people had mental disorders or were drugged out of their minds when they started shooting, but they still had a "reason". Maybe it was just a delusional reason, but I dare you to attempt to rationalized to a person on a drug trip that their hallucinations are not real. You can't convince a person their "reason" is wrong.
So this means that you can NEVER conveniently stick some in a group of "bad people" who are somehow fundamentally different from the "good people" (which, of course, you will always include yourself in!). It means that there is NOBODY who cannot, ever, find a "reason" where mass-murder makes rational sense to them at the time. Giving everyone a gun (or, basically, giving them more power) will only increase the amount of damage someone can do if and when they inevitably happen to find a situation where there is a "reason".
One can only hope that this "tyrannical regime" that you fear never actually arises. Because if it does, (provided you're not just a coward), you'll be out there fighting for what you believe in by committing mass-murder, too. And you'll STILL think you're the "good guy".
▶ No.79480
>>79065
No, it's puppy play
▶ No.82736
>>74366
whats the deal with murrsuiting anyway?
what so wrong with having some kinks?
everyone here knows in fact none of the pornographic content rolling in the fandom represents what we stand for.
its not degradating for the community as long as we acknowledge those people with kinks are the same humans as you are.
▶ No.82743>>82775
>>79475
No. But what I can do is look at them and say "That person isn't all there". You look at literally any mass shooter, and they've all had mental issues. They are not normal people. This is just an autistic strawman.
>And if you think that you're a saint who will never murder anyone, answer me this: a violent gang has kidnapped your daughter, and will kill her unless you mow them all down.
That's not a fucking question you dipshit.
It's also not murder. That's defense, mate. Fuck, do you think when soldiers go and shoot other soldiers on the field of battle, they're all "murderers"? You're too stupid to even know the words you use. Amazing.
If a government imposes rules that violate your rights, you have no obligation to follow those rules. If they decide to attack you, either trying to steal what you own or imprison you, defending yourself is not murder. Plain and simple.
>My point is, everyone who ever committed mass-murder had a "reason" for it.
That's true. Moron collectivist scumbags often do some 'MUH GREATER GOOD' trash, where they violate the rights of others in the name of some vague notion of 'the people'. But, again, defending yourself isn't murder, so this is an irrelevant topic.
When a dipshit loony with major mental problems starts shooting up a school because "muh name is not important", it ain't something the majority of people're likely to empathize with, let alone would do themselves. Because most people don't like fucking over others like that. Most people understand responses should be kept in equal measure, not greater. You do not shoot someone who is not a threat to you. If they're talking shit, you talk shit about them.
>One can only hope that this "tyrannical regime" that you fear never actually arises. Because if it does, (provided you're not just a coward), you'll be out there fighting for what you believe in by committing mass-murder, too. And you'll STILL think you're the "good guy
Nah. Because I wouldn't commit mass murder, since I'm not some Islamist terrorist faggot.
I wouldn't involve innocent people in my troubles. I'd kill the people coming after me, demanding I submit to their violations of my rights.
I wouldn't murder anyone.
You know what your problem is? And this is one I've run in to a lot of the time.
You never bothered to think about what principles people have. Or, hell, I'd say whta principles you have yourself. You'd understand the difference between murder and self defense if you did.
Killing is not inherently wrong. You can make arguments to justify murder, by all means, but that doesn't make it any less wrong, that just means you're making excuses for a bad, hoping to outweigh the bad with the good. But, simply killing someone or something, by itself, is a neutral act. If someoen's trying to kill you, you're perfectly within your rights to kill him. That's not a problem in the slightest. There's no moral conundrum to that.
Someone you've got tied up you think might be a problem down the line, and you kill him? That's murder. He wasn't a threat. He wasn't violating your rights. You were using the potential of the future as an excuse to violate his shit. That's where it's wrong.
See, if you're operating an "ends justifies the means" position, you make excuses for injustices.
But, if you operate from a principled position, that is to say, you work from an assumption that there are bad actions, bad tactics, things that are inherently wrong, you simply don't have injustices. You have unfortunate incidents, by all means, where your inaction resulted in death. But that's not an injustice. That's a tragedy, by all means, one that can be used against you by some who look for the end goal, but from a moral perspective, there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.
See the classic Trolley Problem as an example along these lines. To pull the lever is murder. To do nothing results in a number of deaths, but is distinctly not murder.
▶ No.82748>>82749
>>74370
>Gays makeup barely 4% of the us population
>We are outbreeding you #lovewins
No aids wins
>Gay and bisexual men accounted for 67% (26,570) of all diagnoses and 83% of HIV diagnoses among males.
▶ No.82749
>>82748
Also inb4 homophobic I don't hate gay people I don't have anything against them but also fetishizing your sexuality seems to generate
▶ No.82768
>>74352 (OP)
It's very cute in furry fantasy, when it's actual anthros collaring each other. But it's much more... weird when it's actual humans who do it. Mostly because they sometimes resort to butt-plug tails or strange "LARPing" mode.
I don't know, it falls into that sort of "furry gay but not real life gay" hypocrisy.
▶ No.82775>>82778 >>82780
>>82743
>They are not normal people
Who are you to define what is and what is not normal? People kill each other all the goddamn time through history. It's just that some of them you call "heroes" because they happen to align with your particular tribalism. Have you ever wondered how the people on the other side of the war feel about your heroes?
>If a government imposes rules that violate your rights
U fucking wot m8? Are you a retard?? Your "rights" are ESTABLISHED by your government! If they suddenly decided to take them away, what could you do about it? Cry more?
>Killing is not inherently wrong.
Of course. It's only "right" when YOU do it. Because you're God, so YOU get to choose what is right and wrong, what is "principals" and "morals". What gives YOU the right to decide these things for ME?
▶ No.82778>>82782
>>82775
Again: War is not murder. Killing someone is not inherently wrong.
I just explained this quite heavily.
>Your "rights" are ESTABLISHED by your government!
They aren't, mate. That's not how rights work. Does help explain your bootcuckoldry, though.
>Of course. It's only "right" when YOU do it
No, it's right regardless of who does it, provided its in self defense. Killing someone out of nowhere is murder, and therefor wrong.
This actually goes back to rights, as it happens. Rights are why we can say murder is wrong. Because that is a violation of your rights. That's damage to what is yours.
>What gives YOU the right to decide these things for ME?
I'm not deciding anything for you. Would've thought most people agree that murder is wrong, but killing someone with their hands around your neck is fine, though.
▶ No.82780>>82782 >>84907
>>82775
By the way, the whole point of principles is that regardless of what is done, by whoever does it, your standards apply to everyone. Stealing is wrong, regardless of if I do it, or you do it.
There's no "it's only right when you do it".
▶ No.82782
>>82778
>>82780
Kant was wrong, deal with it moralfag.
▶ No.82816
pup is a fetish. no more, no less. call it a "lifestyle" all you want, but that's not what it is.
▶ No.84903
I'm ashamed to admit I fund pup play and pony play really sexy, though the people that do them are usually nutcases.
▶ No.84907>>84940
>>82780
It's definitely not a fetish, I admire the lifestyle of being a pup, but I am not into the sexual aspects. Now furry... That's a fetish.
I do think the pup community and furry community should merge. Pups should be welcome with us, performers are the non sexual side of the fandom.
▶ No.84912
I live in Atlanta, so FWA is extremely cheap (don't even need to get a hotel room) and these dudes were walking around the con in these "pup suits" and doing weird pup play stuff in public, and I was just extremely uncomfortable whenever I saw it or would even walk by these people.
I ain't no prude, but I didn't feel comfortable walking past these dudes in full leather and latex all around the con. Like there's a time and a place for these kinds of things, and the middle of a regular convention floor isn't one of them. Hell, I've been to conventions that host BDSM stuff and the people there were nice to talk to and didn't butt in on the main convention stuff to make people uncomfortable.
I already don't really like fursuits, but I don't really feel any discomfort around fursuiters because they're at least trying to look/behave wholesome, so this turned the uncomfortable dial up to 11 because I had no idea how to even interact with these people.
▶ No.84940
>>84907
>bdsm fetish lifestyle isn't a fetish
>pup play isnt a fetish
>the (((community)))
Can we PLEASE turn on IDs I can filter the retards here already
▶ No.85052>>85061
I'd rather be around fursuiters than pups. Puppy play is a bdsm fetish that should be done in private, not at a convention. Not to mention, the masks themselves look fucking retarded, are not cute, and are definitely not sexy.
Pups are not furries, and they shouldn't be classified as such. I'm an SF native, I'm okay with seeing weird stuff and gays everywhere. I don't even own a fursuit, but I can tell you what I don't like -and it's wannabe furries trying to put their own spin on the fandom while tarnishing the reputation of all furries by being insufferable voyeurs.
▶ No.85061>>85072
>>85052
>I can tell you what I don't like -and it's wannabe furries trying to put their own spin on the fandom while tarnishing the reputation of all furries
Here, reminder that IMVU owns FA now.
▶ No.85072
>>85061
I can see how low-effort IMVU is, but I don't think that them owning FA changes what the user-base chooses to create and share. There is no comparison between a furry cash cow and sexual deviants who broadcast their kinks in public.
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▶ No.86125
>>86032
Cute pup. I'd like to bury my bone in you.
Too many overweight furs are camera shy, which is a shame because there are plenty of us out there that are looking for a teddy bear to snuggle and do stuff to. I think rating is rood so I'll just say, I'd like to see you without the hood someday.
▶ No.88214
>>86032
Keep away from children and small houses
▶ No.88225
>>86032
Robotnik called, he wants his stomach back.
▶ No.88232
>>88226
You're only making it worse, furiend :3
▶ No.93413
>>74411
>this whole fucking post
▶ No.93464
>>74443
>Doesn't understand that you should keep your degeneracy hidden away from the public sight
>"Trans" instead of calling them trannies
>Implying the strawman nazi cosplayer isn't wrong in that first statement
The idea that the left can't meme is turning out to be super true.