No.66273
5000 dollars for a fursuit! Furries must be loaded.
No.66274
>$200 for a white stripe
>$500 for a white stripe and a couple of blue stripes
>$1000 for a white stripe, a couple of blue stripes, and a couple of blue stripes more
but why
No.66279
>>66274
what do you imagine the labor is for adding more colors and patterns
it'd require either specialized dye jobs or else cutting and sewing in more patches of fur for each single addition
No.66280
for 4300 bucks you get the privilege of tripping on a fat tail that drags on the fucking ground and just collects the garbage on the ground
what a deal
No.66285
Prices are estimated by complexity. When in doubt, be boring as possible or you know, acquire the skills to make your own. We don't even know the estimated time to take to even make ONE but judging by what we got here, I say a little over two months. I could be wrong. There are others that do it for as low as 600 for a partial.
No.66286
>>66273
To be honest, I think this is fair, the weirder you want your oc and fursuit to be, the more you have to pay,..
The fuck is that thing for 5000? What furry in their right mind would commission a monstrosity like that?
No.66288
what the fuck do furries do for a living where they can make that kind of dough?
No.66290
No.66291
That aint shit, nerd. SparkyCanDo fursuit auctions for fullsuits go well beyond 6000$ usd just for the base suit, then tack on another couple hundred to a 1000$ for all the features you want
No.66292
>>66288
You'd be surprised how diverse the furry population actually is. It's not like having a degenerate fetish precludes you from having a successful life.
No.66302
>>66288
there are a huge number of engineers and computer scientists, as well as california/seattle runts living on daddy's money
it's why the fandom is so utterly insufferable, so culturally void, so egotistical, so exhibitionist, so vapid, and so exclusive.*
t. lower middle class briton
*no, refusal to kick people out doesn't make a fandom "inclusive", it means you exclude covertly instead of overtly by ignoring them until they go away. if anything that's more cruel than just telling people when they're not welcome.
No.66316
>he thinks $5000 is a lot of money
holy shit you're fucking poor LOL
No.66317
>>66316
You could buy so many other, better things with that much money though.
No.66318
>>66317
If you're so fucking poor that you can't afford to spend $5000 on something that makes you personally happy, kill yourself, since you're too poor to live a happy life.
No.66319
No.66320
>>66317
Like what? I'm honestly curious what, in your subjective personal opinion and subjective personal tastes, you think could possibly be objectively better.
No.66322
>>66280
Learn to. be aware of your surroundings, and avoid unclean things.
No.66323
You pay all this money for any of these but the maker doesn't even let you have both arms. The vast majority of people are right handed, what were they thinking?
No.66339
>>66288
I work in tech and make $90k a year with a lot of disposable income. But I'm making my own partial because I think the normal 'toon' fursuits are goofy as fuck
No.66381
honestly you might as well just buy the $2700 base and then add on the other stuff yourself if you have a basic understanding of sewing
No.66425
>>66323
2 arms means double the price.
No.66470
>>66285
>a little over two months
Someone working eight hours a day could make a full-body suit in a week, probably less. They don't have to crochet the fucking thing by hand; it's just patching together swatches of fabric and molding some foam. Considering the only variation is going to be the suit's measurements and the colors, it's doing the same thing they've done a hundred times. The heads and other molded parts will all be the same shape, constructed in the same fashion as others of the same "species", so they can be made very quickly as this process is established. That's the principal of an assembly line. That's the reason people even bother using these kinds of makers instead of taking the time and expense to learn and do it themselves. You can either build your own car and make it entirely custom, or buy one from a dealer and accept that it'll be built the same as many others.
>>66381
It'll look like shit because it will be overlays instead of a seamless suit. Might as well just make the entire thing, yourself, in that case.
No.66558
>>66470
>someone could bang this out in a week
If you want a shitty suit that would fall apart after one outing, sure.
Remember anon, suits are made for mobility, public interaction, and even going outside in some cases; they're basically elaborate sports mascot costumes and those don't get shit out in a week.
No.66562
>>66470
>>66558
i'll bang both of you out in a week
No.66577
>>66470
>They don't have to crochet the fucking thing by hand; it's just patching together swatches of fabric and molding some foam.
True, but you still have to source fur colours, sometimes really obscure and infrequently run colours if the suit in question is sparkledog enough. Plus like most things in life, everything takes twice as long as it should do.
>Considering the only variation is going to be the suit's measurements and the colors, it's doing the same thing they've done a hundred times.
That's not quite true, there's typically details unique to each suit that have to be constructed for each suit, especially so for obscure species. Some people making fursuits get shat on all the time for making everything look like a dog.
>The heads and other molded parts will all be the same shape, constructed in the same fashion as others of the same "species", so they can be made very quickly as this process is established.
This already happens, there's a handful of groups that do nothing but make fursuit parts, especially head bases. DreamVision Creations comes to mind for being known for this. But the problem then arises that all the heads using the same head base look samey, for obvious reasons. I'd say about half of the people making fur suits carve a head base out of foam for each head, because of the particulars some characters being made into fursuits brings.
>That's the principal of an assembly line. That's the reason people even bother using these kinds of makers instead of taking the time and expense to learn and do it themselves. You can either build your own car and make it entirely custom, or buy one from a dealer and accept that it'll be built the same as many others.
That's the thing though, fursuits for most people getting them want their fursuit. Pre-mades are a thing that happens, but if you're commissioning a fursuit, its typically because you want a perticular character with particulate features. It's less like making cars on a assembly line and more like commissioning original 2D art from a artist of whatever instead of trying to doodle it yourself, except in this case it's for a costume that's worn.
No.66578
No.66580
>>66577
>you still have to source fur colours
Sitting around waiting for swatches to come in the mail is NOT PART OF LABOR COSTS. That's the fault of the manufacturer for not already having the requisite materials on hand. It's also their fault for not being capable of saying "no" if someone wants some obscure colored fabric that can only be specially ordered on a slow-boat from fucking China.
No.66581
>>66339
With that much money, why not get creative!
No.66582
>>66581
There's a fine line between "realistic" and "looks like actual taxidermy" with these types of suits. Call it the "fursuit uncanny valley". Do you really want to risk some motherfucker from PETA throwing paint on your $5000 suit because she thinks it's literally made from wolf fur?
No.66583
>>66582
Oh don't be silly! There's no PETA members at conventions.
Are there?
No.66586
>>66585
Air cooling is vastly inferior to water cooling, and it's also pretty well pointless to circulate air around the entire torso like that, with nothing else. Thing is, these look like they're designed for use with nothing on the head. A fursuit always has a head, as a MINIMUM, and your brain is what produces the most heat. Having air conditioning only around your chest in a fursuit is like trying to run a computer with no dedicated heat sink on the CPU. It's gonna fry. That's why real mascot character heads have fans in the masks. The rest is unimportant.
If I ever decided to make a fursuit, I'd build a water-cooling system like astronauts use, running to a mini heat exchanger (or just a container full of ice with a pump) carried in a backpack.
No.66592
>>66586
>tubes end at the crotch
Are you sure this is a cooling suit?
No.66607
>>66586
>That's why real mascot character heads have fans in the masks.
Many fursuit makers offer the same thing in their fursuit heads. Mine has a fan
No.66608
>>66582
Masks intended for human heads are far larger than the real animal heads they're based on in the vast majority of cases, plus aren't proportioned right for the use-your-own-eyes kind of masks like the first two, you'd have to be genuinely retarded to think they were real animal heads.
No.66633
>>66608
People in PETA are genuinely retarded, yes.
No.66634
>>66582
Might just be me, but there's far more of a appreciation for the workmanship with realistic suits than toony with the average joe, with far more "Ew, furry" with the latter.
No.66688
>>66634
It's a double-edged sword. In one way, yes, you don't look like a typical furry with a childish cartoon character. On the other hand, you look more like you might be otherkin, or a zoophile, both of which are objectively worse to be characterized as.
Besides, they still look creepy and dead.
No.66689
>>66581
I am I think, and you'll probably recognize me at AC if you're there. Or at least I can't imagine anyone else looking like I would.
No.66945
>>66273
i wonder who is behind this one
>>>>jasonafe spotted<<<<
No.66949
>>66273
If this is a joke about shitty sparkledog OCs then it has my full support. A consultant once had a price list and it went something like this:
Do it myself: $20/hr
You help me: $30/hr
No.67384
Who made HIVtiger's suit, on the right?
I can't identify it.
No.67465
>>67384
Can anone ID the suit for me?
No.67466
>>67465
me in that pic owo
No.67467
>>67385
That's in nzd actually, it's about 8000$ usd
No.67523
>>67465
S.ss...sauce on that gif?
No.67577
>>67523
It was posted in a /k/ thread.
Something about femboi goats and ar-15s
No.67586
>>66274
how much does the second arm cost
No.67587
>>66280
That's the consequence of being a special snowflake
No.67595
>>66273
I don't even fucking have 2700. How can autists be so rich?
No.67600
Lots of envious ppl in this thread. If ya poor ass can't afford a fursuit, don't complain that you not big for money...smh 😂
No.67604
>>67600
> $8000 for a poo emoji costume
Okay ante
No.67605
>>67604
$8000 is a small price to pay. The way I see it, your human physical body doesn't really represent you. You had no choice in the color of your skin your eyes or how tall you are. It's all randomly assigned to you at conception. If you make a fursona though, you get to decide on every little physical aspect by yourself. So your fursona is a better representation of you than anything else, and a fursuit is the only way to turn idea into reality.
No.67606
>>67605
That's all well and good, but from a purely financial standpoint, especially with actual average prices taking into account lesser known makers you have to dig a bit to find, $8000 is far too much for even anything that'd be reasonable to stick on the high end budget wise. Rule of thumb for pricing is ~<$1200 for a partial (far less so the fewer parts you're getting), ~$1500 for a not ultra basic but not super fancy fullsuit, and probably no more than pushing $2500 for a full suit with the works, maybe a tinge more if we're really piling on the features and/or really has a air of premium craftsmanship to it. (i.e., super realistic.)
No.67607
>>67605
There are cheaper way to get fucked, seriously.
Not when you date a woman tho.
No.67609
>>67605
>a fursuit is the only way to turn idea into reality.
But my sona isn't a retarded looking mascot with shitty paper cutout eyelids.
No.67612
>>67609
Then don't get a retarded looking mascot with shitty paper cutout eyelids.
No.67621
>>67605
>If you make a fursona though, you get to decide on every little physical aspect by yourself
But let's not forget, the things you personally find attractive in a fursona were also assigned to you regardless of your will. If you find red to be your favorite color, it's because you have a biological predisposition to liking the color red, same as your favorite ani9mal, etc. so how much of what you like is really "you" and makes you different than the things you mentioned as your previous premises? Most of us are merely reacting to the world, not making our concious decisions. Same as taste, for example, if you dislike onions, you don't want to eat them, but did YOU really make a concious decision to not like the taste of onions? Can i juyst walk up to you and say "Anon, start liking onions!" Is that not your biology making decisions on *your* behalf? Consider it.
No.67625
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>>66688
>you might look like a zoophile
That's not such a bad thing, for me at least.
I'm torn between getting a more traditional cartoon fursuit like a don't hug cacti or sparky can do because I think they generally look better and have a more "fun" vibe to them, or getting a more realistic looking one like a sharpe19 so I can use it to meet other zoophiles.
You know the creator of an old zoophile porn label called petlust runs a booth every year at Midwest Furfest, right?
No.67626
>>67625
Can I global report this for "sexual content featuring children"?
Only a furry manchild would think fucking a dog is okay.
No.67629
>>67621
>Lel, biology bro so you don't get a say in nuth'n
As a fact I didn't like onions at one point, but at one point I consciously decided fuck it and started eating onions, and you know what? I don't mind onions now. Whether you consciously enact or decide upon either outside or internal forces is entirely up to you.
I like blue because it's a rather calming colour that puts me at ease, but if for some reason a event came along that could potentially make me hate blue by sheer association, I could either choose to get over myself and continue on, or strip blue of the title of favorite colour and pick something else.
With the exception of the laws of physics, if there's something you want to consciously change about yourself, there's zero reason you can't.
No.67631
>>67626
Why? It's between two consenting adults, and the image itself is questionable at best. And technically he's not fucking the dog, it's the other way around. Not to mention 8ch has an entire zoo board, so this would be off-topic at best, but that's unlikely since it does have a fursuit in it.
You would honestly be surprised at the number of zoophiles in the furry community, is actually quite alarming. Something like 1 in 5.
No.67633
>>67384
So no one can recognize this suit? I know RicoTiger has two suits, his other one I think is made by DontHugCacti, but this one I can't find any info on. I really like the quality and overall look of it. I think my fursona would look great as one of these artist's suits.
It almost looks like a SparkyCanDo, but I'm not sure.
No.67643
>>67605
so what you're saying is only rich people should be allowed to be their "real" selves.
the class politics of the furry fandom are the most fascinating thing in the world. especially when you look at the would-be left wing furries, who'll still follow furry social norms. if you ask your average far-left furry whether commissions and expensive suits are good, you'll get "yeah, artists need money!" rather than "no, money corrodes artistic integrity", or "no, money stratifies the fandom by class", and their vision of a post-capitalist future will be more imaginatively stunted than the kind of person who buys a YCH. (oh, it'll be just like now... except artists will have lots of money, but commissions will be cheaper!)
Then on 8ch, you can often get the inverse - in arguments about pirating from patreon, sometimes pirates are accused of being liberals/communists by the right, or accused by the left of being selfish capitalists who want artists to starve. The political part to this isn't interesting - it's not that "right" or "left" are relevant, what's relevant is how furries project furry social norms onto their political stance.
in summary if you're not a rich kid (or in rareish cases, autist with no living cost and a social security cheque.) just stick to the porn other people make. don't even bother with a username or fursona, nobody cares about you, you won't fit in.
No.67653
>>67643
It's the greatest tragedy of this fandom that no one likes to acknowledge.
I'm seriously considering abandoning my plans of moving out of state and getting a job I actually enjoy working in favor of getting a job thats 18 hours a day, 6 days a week with my uncle as a teamster/driver for the motion picture industry just so I can fund this.
I mean yeah, it's a stupid reason to break my back for. I mean I got plenty of other hobbies that would benefit from a ~80k salary, but this is definitely a pay to play fandom.
No.67654
>>67653
>people want a 80k salary to waste it on a fursuit
Pisses me off so hard, because I keep scraping at the bare minimum, have to watch terrible artists get a shitton of money because unlike me, they don't have a bad conscience.
Always getting shitty underpaid jobs and my worst fear is ending up on the street.
And what do people do? LOL I guess my job is shit, let me SIMPLY achieve a 80k job to get a fursuit instead of like... buy shit I actually need to live.
Maybe I should move to Murrica. The more I hang around at 8ch, the more it seems fucking easy to me to get rich there without much efford.
No.67656
>>67654
Btw while I'm writing that post I'm sitting here, writing on a job application for a shit job I don't really want at 3 AM.
No.67658
>>67654
Why do you think so many mexicans come here?
No.67660
>>67658
Because of their shitty taste in presidents and because their daughters didn't get them rich by twerking on Youtube.
No.67665
>>67629
>I consciously decided fuck it and started eating onions, and you know what? I don't mind onions now.
tolerating isn't the same thing as liking
>but if for some reason a event came along that could potentially make me hate blue by sheer association, I could either choose to get over myself and continue on, or strip blue of the title of favorite colour and pick something else
you can get over a mental bias but that wouldn't change your biological predisposition. Test this yourself by stabbing yourself in the stomach repeatedly until you decide to enjoy it.
>>67658
To escape the druglords?
No.67675
>>67665
The wording about the onions was a bit vague, it's not tolerance as much as indifference. Previously I straight up did not like them, now I have zero feelings either way. Not that I force myself to like them now, which is entirely different.
You do realize that self mutilation is a fetish, right? I personally don't have this fetish, nor do I have any reason to want that fetish, but if for some reason I did want to have that fetish, then I would start to enjoy stabbing myself in the stomach.
No.67686
Hmm... I should figure out how to make fursuits so I can charge 5000 dollars for them. I'd be fucking loaded.
No.67689
>>67686
Once you "figure out" how to make fursuits and charge 5000 you'll figure out there is no getting loaded off making fursuits and none of those fursuit makers are sitting as comfortable as you want to make them out to be.
No.67692
>>67689
>none of those fursuit makers are sitting as comfortable as you want to make them out to be.
tbh this is probably down to their own personal issues rather than any problem with the basic economics of the thing.
although that may in part be down to the nightmarish alienation caused by trying to production-line something you got into as a hobby.
No.67727
>>67675
>but if for some reason I did want to have that fetish, then I would start to enjoy stabbing myself in the stomach
I don't think you can force yourself to have a fetish. Any more than you can force yourself as a straight to become gay.