/fur/ - Furry★

I have mental problems from birth and only explain them in pretty private communities or to people I get along with very well and trust. I agree that people who exhibit their mental issues outside of fairly private interactions are seeking drama and possibly using it as a shield to deflect criticism.

I honestly do think there are situations where you can express your issues even on a board like this and you won't get shit, and maybe you make a mistake once or twice and do it the wrong way but you learn quickly.

>>58259 (OP)

The worst ones are those who self-diagnose from reading a wikipedia entry.

These people are the worst even for people with real mental disorders since they go into places where the people with mental/social issues who don't act stupid on purpose are to exert their psychotic authoritative social dominance where they are literally the only person with the most and worstest mental issues and can't be criticized or given reasonable advice about how to effectively cope by the others who actually do have the problem they claim to deal with.

>>58261

>The worst ones are those who self-diagnose from reading a wikipedia entry.

It's that and a little bit of introspection that has me convinced I'm likely somewhat autistic.

I'm just never EVER going to volunteer myself to the opinions of psychologists. Until neuroscience fills in some gaps, the field is full of post-hoc explanations and pure conjecture.

>Few provide any real proof

That's because proof doesn't exist, you retard.

This is America, where you can pay ten-thousand dollars to tell a shrink you think you have bipolar disorder, and have him tell you right back that you have bipolar disorder. And for what?? Are you going to get a little slip of paper like a college diploma that says, "This document certifies that Doctor Quacker of Anonsville has officially diagnosed Yiff Foxman as being One Crazy Sonvabitch" and then you scan it and show it to everyone here? Come on; don't be stupid.

As for bragging about it, who cares? This is an anonymous imageboard, so there is no need to be ashamed or secretive about things. I'm a gay pedophile furry with schizophrenia, high-functioning autism, and a God complex. There. See? Won't even affect my life, so there's no reason to censor the reality.

>>58269

>I'm a gay pedophile furry with schizophrenia, high-functioning autism, and a God complex.

That explains your narcissism and inability to read properly.

I'll put it in english for you, he's talking about furfags on social media like Twitter/FA who cite a plethora of mental disorders with a gofundme/kofi/paypal link next to it, not an anonymous board. Comprende?

>>58269

you don't have to be a such a huge cunt about it, retard

>Fakers

Congratulations OP, you've discovered why people hate trannies about 5 years later to the punch

>>58277

there are real transgendered people who go through the therapy, drugs and surgery.

Then there are Tumblr assholes that put on a dress, wig and makeup to look like a character out of a shitty 80s cartoon then scream "bigot" whenever anyone disagrees with them. They will never go near a knife.

Then there's Sechs Freehaven, who was legit the first case, but the surgery was such shit he still looked like a man, and chose to blame SJWs and turned /pol/ over it because he couldn't research surgeons first and got laughed at by Lulz for looking like a pudgy guy with tits glued on.

BTW a lot of the suicides are due to shitty surgeons fucking things up. Quincy did an episode on this in the 70s, anyone with a medical degree of any kind could open a plastic surgery clinic legally even without the skill needed, and it's not changed. Worst is that the doctors who fuck this up rarely get punished. Unfortunately many patients don't bother to research their doctors, or they're cheap and go overseas for discount rates(or they're FTM and have to go 3rd world because most nations are only interested in MTF surgeries) and things go horribly "hand in a blender" wrong.

Even at best I doubt a lot of these surgeons know what the hell a vagina looks like. I've seen post-op pics on Imagefap, 99% have a thing that matches the vague description of a vagina and that's it. I think I've seen only one that had a convincing vagina.

>>58273

Twitter and FA are still completely anonymous because they do not require you to link to real information like your name and address. Unless they are doxxed, you cannot find out who these people are, so it can't follow them into their real lives. If you can't understand that, I'm sorry?

All I was doing was addressing the key issue that it's IMPOSSIBLE to "prove" you have a mental illness, or really anything over the internet. It's a fool's errand trying to weed out those "faking it", and those who literally have debilitating disorders which inhibit their ability to make a living. You can simply choose to believe that everyone is making it up, but that intellectual laziness. OP was doing that by maintaining a completely unsubstantiated delusion that nobody who REALLY has a mental illness will talk about it, therefore anyone who does must be lying.

>I'll put it in english for you

>Comprende?

I doubt that was intentional, but it was pretty funny.

>>58283

Too bad most everyone feels a need to plaster their real name, location and personal details on the internet now. Between Facebook more or less forcing people to, followed by "doctors" claiming "anyone not willing to post their personal details has something to hide and is possibly mentally ill" it's become the norm. Youtube used to tell people "do not use your real name, it's dangerous", then later started offering people the chance to use their real names. Corporate conditioning plus some paid medical professionals printing "studies" have made it socially acceptable to dox yourself.

Makes it easier to arrest anyone who expresses dissent, I suppose. That was kind of the first step, now net neutrality is dead and conservatives are happy, give it 3 more years and being anonymous online will be illegal in the US, it already is in some parts of the world.

>>58286

how old are you?

>>58294

21

>>58281

>defending trans shit

Go and die, leftypol. An FTM never was and never will be a man. Biology is biology, autism is autism. Gender is a social construct made up by a physicist in the 50s. You cannot change that.

>>58269

i actually have several letters like that, for depression, autism and "learning difficulties", from school and from hospitals.

granted i had to ask specially to get the depression ones and the autism ones came with the process of being diagnosed. the school gave me the learning difficulty one before autism was diagnosed because the college wanted it before they'd offer any supported learning stuff, then they needed the depression one when i had to take a break for a year. the autism ones they like because it tells everything they learned when testing you.

>>58303

Cry as much as you want, won't change the fact that trannies will always be freaks that end up killing themselves because they realized that cutting their dick off didn't turn them into a 10/10 princess.

Not to mention that outside of fetishists people just aren't interested in dating or having sex with trannies. Surprisingly enough people want their partners, gay or straight, to be mentally stable and not believe that they are a woman trapped inside a mans body. Eventually the gender-surgery fad will die out.

And lastly

>you continuing to act like blatant bigoted assholes pushes more and more people to left wing beliefs

I'm not sure if you were in a coma for the past year and a half but that's blatantly false. It's not even that people are turning right wing, in fact most people are going the middle of the road moderate route. It's just that they just don't want to deal with your retardation anymore.

>>58306

>All liberals are trannies or support them

Whatever you say, you literal Nazi.

>>58306

>"Not to mention that outside of fetishists people just aren't interested in dating or having sex with trannies"

Tfw been in a loving, committed relationship with a 10/10 vanilla qt for 5+ years despite being trans

Do you want someone to hold your hand anon?

>>58317

You guys always say this while crying and being depressed on your Twitter feed. You're fake.

>>58317

>>58303

Why is tumblr on /fur/? Has 8chan become a honeypot for FTMs that think it's cool to go on 4chan?

>>58327

There's three reasons:

1. 2016 election

2. Twitter where idiots gain their political background from furry porn artists tweet about BLM and Antifa.

3. Yiffparty.

We aren't also politically incorrect enough. That's why they get triggered whenever we use "-fag" as an affix or drop "nigger".

I never use my real name outside of eBay, I don't use Facebook, I use a different handle on various forums so my furry shit isn't connected to my other shit, I don't blab to strangers where I live and I keep medical/personal shit to myself.

This is how the internet used to be and how it should be. Too many fuckheads on either the SJW or /pol/ sides will try to dox you if you hurt their feelings, and both are so easily offended you can't avoid pissing them off somehow. Don't volunteer info freely to those who would hurt you over a differing opinion.

It's amazing how many furries I could easily dox because they use the same handle everywhere and spill too many personal details without a second thought. I know what city a cub porn fanatic lives in AND their job(go figure, it's working with children) because they blabbed it freely, anyone could contact their employer easily, you won't even need their name, just report them and there would be an investigation.

Revealing your info in a way that can get back to you makes you a fucking moron. "I have nothing to hide" know what that's bullshit. You DO have shit to hide because the world is full of people who don't see eye to eye with you, and have been given the tools to harm you over minor shit.

>>58259 (OP)

I don't think they're actively making it up. I think a lot of the time they're self diagnosing themselves with disorders due to actual things like anxiety and depression. Similar to how a lot of people self diagnose themselves with Cancer and other life threatening ailments and annoy doctors about it.

Munchhausen syndrome I've heard is more common with women. However there is an appeal for these people to fake disorders largely since it gets them more sympathy. (And Sympathy = power in the furry community). The downside is it causes people with these disorders to feel marginalized and makes people take them significantly less seriously. (There's a reason why very few people with autism who aren't retarded admit to having it. Only the true aspies post it on their profile.)

>>58267

>It's that and a little bit of introspection that has me convinced I'm likely somewhat autistic.

Autism afaik is something that's diagnosed early in life. If you weren't diagnosed early in life you probably didn't get it. It's not just "I'm socially retarded therefore I'm autistic".

>>58269

>That's because proof doesn't exist, you retard.

You can go to a doctor and get a diagnosis. Or just having medication is a good indicator it's legit.

>This is America, where you can pay ten-thousand dollars to tell a shrink you think you have bipolar disorder, and have him tell you right back that you have bipolar disorder

Bipolar gets some pretty heavy medications so you tend to need physical evidence of it to prove you're not a drug addict.

>As for bragging about it, who cares?

A person who flaunts a mental condition as part of their character tends to have very little self identity or ambitions in life

>there is no need to be ashamed or secretive about things

It's not a matter of shame or being secretive. It's moreso that a lot of people treat their mental condition like it's fashion. Similar to how people claim to be transsexual or have a different gender.

>>58281

>BTW a lot of the suicides are due to shitty surgeons fucking things up

There's a lot of physical realities to post op life that cause difficulty. Stuff like how hair physically still grows in the "vagina"

>Even at best I doubt a lot of these surgeons know what the hell a vagina looks like. I've seen post-op pics on Imagefap, 99% have a thing that matches the vague description of a vagina and that's it. I think I've seen only one that had a convincing vagina.

It's more likely that there wasn't enough flesh to do the surgery. If the surgeon was able to determine that the vagina would look malformed after the procedure I'm fairly certain they wouldn't go through with it to avoid a potential malpractice suit.

>>58332

>Thousands of years of institutional oppression and repression is irrelevant because of one mass shooting

You know, just because the Pope says "eh, gays are okay I guess... so long as they don't have any sex, ever" doesn't absolve Christians of all the other crimes. Just because Muslim countries have different laws than Christian ones doesn't change what the religions, themselves, would allow if human rights were entirely within the scope of their control. From where I'm standing, Muslims and Christians are EXACTLY THE SAME: brainless, mindless fools who use ancient texts to justify their bigotry and stick their fingers in their ears to any manner of logic or scientific method, when it conflicts. You even worship the same God. Don't stand there and tell me the WBC wouldn't stone gays to death if it weren't for that pesky Constitution keeping them from doing it.

>>58340

>Similar to how a lot of people self diagnose themselves with Cancer

The thing here is that it's easy to test for cancer, because it will produce physical symptoms. One can imagine things like pain, but they can't fake blood screens and MRIs. But the brain is different: it's a self-referring positive-feedback machine, that no physical test can diagnose. If someone thinks they have a mental condition, their brain will think they have a mental condition, so they'll actually end up having it. The only difference is that the symptoms will not match if the person doesn't know what the actual condition is like. You can end up with a situation where a person thinks they have OCD because they wash their hands a lot, only to be told by a doctor that they don't because they don't also have the obsessive thoughts. But things like depression and anxiety are simple self-fulfilling feelings; a person can very easily brainwash themselves into depression just by beating themselves up all the time. This is the default state for teenagers, to a certain degree.

>Autism afaik is something that's diagnosed early in life

Depends how old you are. If you're under 20, it would likely happen because it's a "meme diagnosis" right now and for the last decade. If you're around 30 you probably would have been diagnosed with ADHD, as that was the meme diagnosis in the 90's. If you're 40+, they probably just called you a "retard" and stuck you in the short bus with the Down Syndrome kids.

>You can go to a doctor and get a diagnosis. Or just having medication is a good indicator

It doesn't matter. If you have a slip from a doctor, they'll just say it's shooped. If you have a bottle of medication, they'll just say it's fake. If you get a video of your doctor on a skype call or whatever saying that you're ill, they'll just say it's your cousin or whatever who is lying. If you got literal motherfucking President Trump to personally show up at their doorstep and tell them that, yes, you have bipolar disorder, they will just say it's an actor you hired.

YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING OVER THE INTERNET.

>>58318

The guy I was responding to seems pretty lonely, and is giving off an elliot rodger "hey im a nice guy pick me instead" vibe. I'd rather complain on twitter about stubbing my toe or spilling my tea instead of grasping for straws in a pile of shit to find reasons to blame people for my own lonely suffering tbh

>>58327

I've been using /furry/ since the early days, I haven't noticed any increase in the tumblr boogeyman

>>58347

Quit talking about yourself, especially if you're stupid enough to complain about Trump and right-wing boogeymen frequently.

>>58345

>Don't stand there and tell me the WBC wouldn't stone gays to death if it weren't for that pesky Constitution keeping them from doing it.

The thing is that Muslims do is illegally in their home country, primarily because they're able to recognize you trash for what you are. If you ask any sane person, you're better off dead than breathing if you're retarded enough to turn the intentionally transmission of HIV from a felony to a misdemeanor.

>>58350

>Quit talking about yourself

Ohshit watch out guys we got ourselves a middle schooler

I don't really care for politics in general, Trump started off as promising but now he's being stupid and throwing half assed plans everywhere. I have been accused of being rightwing by the tumblr sjws though lmao

>>58355

eesccksssdee XDd

>>58357

Le mao

>>58359

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>>58354

Do you know why they did that, anon? It's because the crime of intentionally infecting someone with ANY OTHER DISEASE is a misdemeanor. It was only made a felony for AIDS because of sensationalism and "muh feelings 'cause AIDS is a faggot disease". The change wasn't giving AIDS special treatment, it was to revert it to NORMALITY. Or, in layman's terms, to make it fair compared to other crimes; in essence, this is merely upholding a constitutional protection against cruel and unusual punishment.

But you wouldn't know that, would you kid? You just listened when /pol/ told you that California was making it legal for gay rapists to go around infecting everyone with HIV, without bothering it question it. You don't understand law or reason at all, and you don't even want to. Why don't you just go back to your cute little safe-space over there, where everyone will pat you on the back and tell you that you're automatically a success because you were born a straight white male.

ayo /pol amirite?

fuck /pol/, they're constantly derailing threads when I complain about them, fucking furphobic bastards

>>58259 (OP)

Well a lot of furries are pretty young generally, either teenagers to early adulthood, and in that stage of development madness or mental heterodoxy can seem almost romantic and some kind of disability is also a way to satisfy the insecurities that plague their mind with the sympathies of others. There is also the fact the furry fandom is basically built on the foundation of escapism from life where people can adopt the persona of fantastic or other worldy creatures with any characteristic they admire and I imagine that attracts a lot of people who find their physical body or mentality to be insufficient, so it is unsurprising that a lot of people suffering from psychological or physiological insufficiencies would find comfort and reassurance inside the fandom.

Are some people lying about their mental or medical deficiencies? Sure, of course. Some people lie or exaggerate many aspects of their life, there are also plenty of furries who also self-aggrandize or inflate their ego to satisfy a similar desire. I would suspect any fandom with a large percentage of teenagers or young adults would be blighted with these sorts of exploitative tactics to assuage their ego. I have also been victim to a few people who have used fictitious medical illnesses for my sympathy, so I understand first hand how toxic and repulsive it can be. However, I do not think that these claims should be verified, because even if most do lie about whatever affliction beleaguer them some most certainly do not and I think it would do great harm to these individuals to pry into their personal life for verification of some mental or medical issue.

I would say just ignore people who offend your sensibilities but don't become a dickhead by potentially 'calling out' people unless they really are using some fictitious [or real] illness to take advantage of you in some manner. If someone is being a dickhead and hiding behind the veil of a mental illness, then I don't think you're obliged to forgive or accept them, just ignore them and their friends. There's really not much you can do about them without becoming an ass yourself.

>>58366

The comparison of AIDS to "ANY OTHER DISEASE" presumes that they're comparable. Except that HIV/AIDS is inevitably fatal. Sure, you can die from others but HIV is a straight up death sentence once you get it.

And don't say "it can be treated!":

1. That wasn't the case when those laws were put in place.

2. Ongoing treatment is expensive and puts an unwanted burden on either the individual or the government/society.

3. We wouldn't let someone who shot someone in the chest off with a misdemeanor just because modern medical technology was able to save the victim's life.

Sure, the original intent behind the law was homophobia, but by the same token the only reason it's being repealed now is because the new, SJW-controlled California thought it was problematic to single out a disease most common among da homos, medical differences be damned.

>>58441

>Except that HIV/AIDS is inevitably fatal

So are many other diseases; don't ploy your own ignorance to try to win this argument. You'll fail.

>>58429

I think your post is accurate. It's kind of disappointing to see how much of an issue these illnesses are, fictitious or otherwise, in this fandom. It makes me wonder how different this fandom would be with more stable, cordial individuals.

>>58441

>>58453

Could you discuss that elsewhere, or at least sage if you two are going to be off topic?

>>58366

>>58453

Yeah, the intentional transmission of HIV+ , WHICH IS AN INCURABLE DISESASE THAT DESTROYS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM TO THIS DAY, is comparable to something like the flu? You're retarded.

Go kill yourself.

>>58453

You have no arguments, you're comparing apples and oranges to justify the absurd.. Muslims are doing the right thing by killing you diseased irresponsible fags collectively. You do not deserve the mercy of Christians nor the West, only death.

>>58478

>AN INCURABLE DISESASE[sic]

And? So is hepatitis a, and ebola, and several others I won't take the time to look up for you.

By the way, the law only refers to criminal cases. CRIMINAL, meaning you vs. the State. A person who knowingly infects someone with a disease CAN and WILL get sued in civil court by the person they infected, and be forced to pay restitution, which here will be a large amount considering the high cost of AIDS medication. But you didn't think about that, did you? You thought that these people would just be walking away scott-free with a slap on the wrist misdemeanor charge, right? Of course you did, because you're a FUCKING MORON!

>>58479

>Only homosexuals have AIDS

Uh huh.

>>58485

>ebola is incurable

nigga...

>>58580

You know what? I love Milo because he's able to acknowledge his flaws, his group's flaws, and become monogamous. I wish him a good life for what he's done.

>>58581

>I bet you listen to that loser bum Danzig, amirite? I'd argue with you but saying "Jerry has done more with the Misfits and made the band decent" should be enough to enrage your whiny little ass.

lmao, what?

>You're just a stupid ass cunt anyway. I'd tell you to blow your head off but thanks to /pol/ and Trump the world is getting sick of right wing religious bullshit, and is slowly but surely converting to leftist politics and atheism because the smart ones know your christian hate shit is garbage.

If anything, you possess a less amount of scientific knowledge than an evangelical Christian considering that you're deluded enough to believe that people shouldn't be penalized with a felony for the INTENTIONAL transmission (not accidental, ON PURPOSE) of an incurable STD that multiplies it to kill the immune system of the host. That's like receiving a parking ticket fine to permanently crippling a person by firing a gun at them or feeding children tapeworms.

With how you frequently downplay HIV+ as a threat, it's no wonder why that demographic receives it the most. And now, it'll become larger with that reduced penalty and casual mentality about it. I'm angered and I gave up because you don't give a damn about your lives whatsoever. Mysteriously, you even expect everyone else to pay for the blatantly obvious negative consequence behind that wrong action. Regardless if I die now (which I won't for a very looooooong time because I'm living and thinking right), all the values that you've worked for would cease quickly because they don't guarantee prosperity and longevity.

>>58570

>Heptatis[sic] A and Ebola are curable

No they are not. Spout opinions all you want, but finding out that this assertion is false is just a quick google search away. Let me help you with that, since you can't be bothered to even spell it correctly, googling might prove challenging for you.

>No specific treatment for hepatitis A is known. Recovery from symptoms following infection may take several weeks or months. Therapy is aimed at maintaining comfort and adequate nutritional balance, including replacement of fluids lost from vomiting and diarrhoea.

>As of July 2015, there is no medication which has been proven to be safe and effective in treating Ebola. By the time the Ebola virus epidemic in West Africa began in 2013, there were at least nine different candidate treatments. Several trials were conducted in late 2014 and early 2015, but some were abandoned due to lack of efficacy or lack of people to study.

>>58587

This. The moment anyone brings up either of the political boards in completely unrelated threads you should report and ignore. Half of the newer threads have been derailed because one or two faggots keep randomly crying about politics.

The fuck

>>58642

This never used to happen before Trump got elected.

And you sage'd wrong.

>>58650

>this never used to happen before Trump got elected

That's a blatant lie if I've ever heard one.

>>58269

I hope you get cancer.

>>59074

Okay. I now have cancer. One single cell of cancer. Aaaaand my immune system just destroyed it before it could spread. Now that that's taken care of.

I hope you get incurable elephantiasis of the testicles.

>>59075

>Aaaaand my immune system just destroyed it before it could spread.

NIGGA, what? That's some magic. It's not a virus or bacteria, it's when your cells become distorted and multiply rapidly.

>>59089

Do some research. I'll wait.