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File: ea1f852a8995219⋯.jpg (329.14 KB, 1536x2048, 3:4, 02oOei6.jpg)

 No.106412[Last 50 Posts]

A thread specifically for bitching about your past experiences having to do business with the glorified beggars known as furry ''artists''

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 No.106413

fucking finally

>commission artist

>first in que

>they delay the entire list by a month while doing stream commissions

>deadline they themselves set finally comes

>"o-oh whoops I'm sick hahaha"

>delays it another 3 weeks (for everyone)

>FINALLY gets my thing done

>it's shit

>get a refund

>they bitch

>block them and move on

how hard is it to draw a clydesdale sucking himself off? Honestly

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 No.106415

>>106412

can this just be a general bitch and moan about artists and things artist do thread? artists who for some reason visit here can bitch about commissioners and tell stories from the frontlines of autism too

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 No.106433

>>106415

sure, complain about whatever you want, no one's stopping you

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 No.106434

File: 14893f37f46777e⋯.png (201.51 KB, 957x891, 29:27, 1510718903747.png)

>artist gets something in your ref sheet wrong

>says that's "too much detail" and will cost more

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 No.106437

>>106413

What's wrong with this? Artists are people too and their time, motivation, and availability are subject to change. If you like a commission idea, and then let it mull over for a few days, you won't have the the same energy as when you accepted it in the first place. It might be his fault for waiting, but it's also your fault for not getting an immediate stream commission, either

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 No.106438

>>106437

Not him but if you promise to do something, especially for money, you should do it quick. Also it seems rather convienent that the artist gets sick at exactly the deadline. A little too convienent.

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 No.106442

Do artists get upset if you don't have a definitive ref sheet or can I just send other porn of my character that I've commissioned as reference and let them fill in the blanks

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 No.106445

>>106437

What an unnecessarily long and thinly veiled way of saying furries have abhorrent work ethics.

That's why they're unemployed I guess, but people like you enable them with furry welfare so they will never need a real job.

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 No.106449

Pretty much all furry autist....I mean artist will take your money knowing full well that they never intended to complete your commission ever and then play the victim when asked for a refund 3 years later.

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 No.106454

>>106449

the solution to this is simple, if the community collectively agreed to stop handing money to artists in full in advance before even being delivered a product then artists would be forced to actually do their goddamn jobs

Let's be real too, where else would they go if people in the community stopped being suckers? Most furry porn artists are dogshit and would never make it in the profession industry or they'd already be there. The community needs higher standards

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 No.106457

>>106445

>people like you enable them

I was being sarcastic. You're the one that enabled him by commissioning him in the first place

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 No.106458

>>106454

>The community needs higher standards

<Hmm FA did [bad thing] again

<I know let's keep using FA because it's FA x3

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 No.106462

>>106458

This. Boycott is very powerful, but most people are too weakminded to do it.

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 No.106464

an unnamed artist I used to hire has bad anatomy that fails to improve. They'll even complain "none of my other commissioners complain about the anatomy" if I want them to fix it, but they only have one other regular customer that only buys ponies. Fuck em.

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 No.106465

>>106458

It's kind of amazing how many people refuse to move out or use any other website.

If you go to inkbunny you're labeled as a pedo, if you go to DA you'll get drowned in trade requests and RP requests.

And fucking Dragoneer knows this, that's why he doesn't do anything to improve the site.

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 No.106466

>>106465

Its not his site anymore. Remember when he sold boyh shares, including the half that wasnt his, to IMVU and $10000 in server donations went unaccounted for?

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 No.106488

>>106466

Wasn't it over $20,000?

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 No.106495

>>106465

eBay is also shit but there are no good alternatives. There's also this thing called "popularity" that most have built up on the site, and no one wants to move out and go start fresh on another site.

>>106466

>>106488

IMVU owns it on paper but they seem content to mostly let Draggoneer do as he pleases- still coddles pedos, still protects the rapist, still defends dogfuckers, still selectively upholds rules and all that. Nothing changed. I don't even know what IMVU gets out of it, maybe they sell prints of random art, I don't see how they're making money off this otherwise unless it's for money laundering purposes. They are a Russian company, it's a safe bet they're into organized crime somehow.

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 No.106505

>>106465

>if you go to inkbunny you're labeled as a pedo

By who lmao, I've had an account there for 7 years now and not once have I gotten a note saying I'm a pedo even though I have visible cub porn in my gallery

If you're that worried just draw under a different name for FA and Inkbunny

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 No.106507

>>106465

Sigmax took all his stuff there, Rov took his stuff there and draws cub all the time, but no one threw a stink about him.

Only retards care

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 No.106508

>>106412

I really want those goats. But alive. That sculptor is amazing.

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 No.106515

>send pre-written commission order to artist as soon as they open, within under a minute at the very least

>refresh after sending it

>five people already have slots

>time continues to go by

>artist fills up and lets the last person get an extra 16th slot

>only after they have filled up does the artist finally get to my email

>literally cucked out of buying art because the artist indirectly in the most shrewdish businessman way tells me they got to my email last

>dude gave one person fucking five of the slots that were available, several got 2 each

>tries to offer me an icon commission as compensation like I fucking care at that point

Stopped doing business with them afterwards. I'm sure they'll live considering they literally always fill up comms in a matter of minutes and there is nothing to suggest that will ever stop even 20 years from now.

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 No.106518

>>106515

name and shame

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 No.106519

File: 37e8ea851124354⋯.jpg (37.09 KB, 297x300, 99:100, 1557066980653.jpg)

>artist opens for commissions

>"comment for a slot, it is not first come first serve, I will pick who I will draw based on how much I like their character"

>comment for slot and submit refs

>notice my friend also submitted refs

>I get a slot

>he does not

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 No.106522

File: b2335d67f3ec936⋯.png (78.4 KB, 249x250, 249:250, 1560371515212.png)

No green text, phone postin'

I've been a loyal commissioner for many years. Sign up for one last commission. Artist or rather autist takes over a year with excuses why my commission isn't done all the while do art trades and ychs and crying poor mouth. Fuck artist and this fandom

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 No.106523

>>106522

>phone postin'

lol

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 No.106531

2 monthes later and my homeboy Azelyn still radio silent about my commission but they keep opening up to take more.

I can't wait to get my $165 dollars back.

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 No.106536

>>106531

You're never gonna see that money back.

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 No.106538

>>106531

>Commissioning Azelyn

Lmfao that retard literally has an artist beware page because the turnaround rate for a picture is TWO YEARS

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 No.106583

>>106536

>>106538

but you get it within 2 days if you're artica sparkle!

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 No.106584

File: 77235f1ef37add4⋯.gif (1.94 MB, 656x368, 41:23, 1558667399266.gif)

>it's a shikaro lets one autist get 7 of 15 slots episodes

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 No.106586

>>106584

Why are you upset by this? If you wanted 7 slots, you should have bought them yourself. If you didn't need them, you're just whiteknighting on someone else's behalf...

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 No.106644

File: bf1663274d0ec60⋯.gif (1022.07 KB, 306x216, 17:12, whale places order.gif)

>>106586

It's the fact that there would've been room for me to get my one single slot for a single pic of a single character had I not been forcibly cucked by one single whale coming in and slamming down his whole fucking paycheck and shikaro actually allowing people to do that with no limit whatsoever on how much slots a single person can fucking take. A rich enough asshole could theoretically prevent anyone else, or at least severely bottleneck commissions and essentially monopolize the artist and that's just bullshit. Naturally shikaro doesn;'t give a shit because it's the same amount of money eitherway and mother fuck dealing with multiple customers, but it just seems a LITTLE unfair that one person can force many other people to keep having to wait and wait until they get lucky enough to get some of the tablescraps the greedy trustfund cunt accidentally missed.

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 No.106645

Thinking about cuckmmissioning Xenoda. Are they going to dab on me or are they trustworthy?

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 No.106648

>commission semipopular artist thru FA

>artist takes days to respond to my notes

>last response was over a week ago

>they're shitposting 24/7 on twitter and uploading new pics

>try to reach them there

>they have dms disabled

Why do I keep giving my money to these unprofessional fucks who can't be assed to check every platform they shill on?

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 No.106657

>>106648

you cant send dms unless being a mutual follower I thought

eitherway you got dabbed on try again

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 No.106669

>>106644

And it's a free industry, so you can fellate a different artist if you wanted to.

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 No.106682

>>106669

Well of course my friend, I have since made my arrangements. He can survive perfectly fine without my money, there are a lot of other artists that aren't fortunate enough to know they can reliably just open comms every two weeks and be guarunteed to get a thousand dollars and change from hungry fetishists.

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 No.106683

File: d11307745eb3f83⋯.jpg (48.6 KB, 603x589, 603:589, 1540417966494.jpg)

>>106586

>Whiteknighting someone

>By calling them an autist

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 No.106686

>>106434

stop having fucktarded overdesigned sparklefurs that take 5x longer to draw

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 No.106687

>>106505

inkbunnys rep is they're all pedos and your post confirms it. of course you wouldn't get anyone bitching about it on inkbunny because thats the main demographic who uses it. everywhere else will call you a pedo if you use IB

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 No.106711

>>106505

>visible cub porn

>I'm not a pedo

how awfully conflicting

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 No.106735

>>106711

>Shoot someone in Call of Duty

>Arrested for inciting murder

Wow bugged game mechanics

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 No.106737

>>106687

>>106711

>Haha wouldn't it be funny if I was a contrarian to this guy's post

Whatever you say buddy

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 No.106740

frankly, as a person who truly doesnt like cub porn and in fact hates it, none of it is in my gallery, nor is it in my favorites, and not a single person who I watch uploads or even favorites cub porn themselves.

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 No.106741

>Artist has nice looking art style, commission prices look really good

>give them a watch

>muse over their profile

>"commissions closed indefinitely"

>unwatch immediately and never look back

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 No.106747

>>106740

>isolating your friends because they might not like what you like

Wew

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 No.106748

File: 976aaa04c35407b⋯.png (550.16 KB, 800x800, 1:1, 7ed528690c43c5c95875e7eddd….png)

Yup, got one myself:

>Fairly new to commissioning, only had a couple of pics done.

>Spot artist who drew a pretty good armor set on a character.

>Having been looking for an artist to put my character in armor, commission them.

>Detail commission to them, accepted.

>$125USD up front and i'm required to watch his stream to get it worked on.

>Young, dumb and naive, pay it. Get promised work start in a month or two. Watch his stream religiously.

>Three months later, still hasn't gotten to it. Too busy giving gifts to his friends and telling me that mine is 'next in line'.

>Finally comes to my turn: tells me he can't draw my idea, it's too hard.

>Settle for generic pin-up pose.

>Another month or two.

>Finally cranks out the worst picture of my character I have ever seen.

>It's horrifying.

>I could've drawn better. And i've never picked up a stylus in my life.

>Accept the loss, move on, never upload pic anywhere.

>Years later, check in on artist.

>Art has gotten WORSE, but is popular because he draws massive T, A and D for popufurs.

That was a good lesson in spending my money more wisely. I learnt from that mistake and i've found some way more reliable, talented and well-priced artists since then.

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 No.106749

>>106747

It's actually extremely easy to not be friends with someone who forces them to like cub shit because it's the freshest meme with the edgy tryhard degenerates

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 No.106751

you guys think after 9 years azelyn remembered i commissioned them back in summer of 2010?

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 No.106766

>>106437

It's art when it's done for public enjoyment and profit isn't the goal or motive. It's a business and he fucked off and didn't do his job, which was to do what he was paid to do. No excuse ever.

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 No.106775

>>106748

I want to see this pic he drew for you

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 No.106779

>>106766

>It's art when it's done for public enjoyment and profit isn't the goal or motive.

Quality- and content-wise, I'm not about to go comparing the Sistine Chapel to commissioned furry porn. That said, you might want to rethink or at least loosen your definitions a little bit.

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 No.106780

>>106644

>A rich enough asshole could theoretically prevent anyone else, or at least severely bottleneck commissions and essentially monopolize the artist

play market games, win prizes at the market rate.

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 No.106781

>>106737

>poster admits hes a cub artist

>contrarian post

retard

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 No.106782

>>106748

pics or gtfo

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 No.106799

>>106775

>implying anyone here is going to post any pics

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 No.106827

>>106748

Name and shame, please

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 No.106863

>>106775

>>106782

>>106827

I'm not posting the pic, no. But the artist is: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/akkusky

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 No.106916

https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/9179260/

>for like the fifth fucking time since I've ordered my commission, azelyn has opened up commissions for even more shit

>I still don't have any remote sign whatsoever that my image is being worked on

>they're opening these up for 'bills'

What in the niggery fuck is this stupid bitch blowing all the god damn money on?

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 No.106918

>>106711

>>106747

>>106749

Is every thread going to just be retards from tumblr arguing about cub from now on?

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 No.106927

Azelyn just won't stop dabbing on me bros...

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 No.106929

>>106918

There is no argument. All the people that try to ban loli and less, always end up being actual pedophiles and abusers. Every fucking time. Look at ResetERA right now

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 No.106952

>>106929

But why are they still allowed to derail threads

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 No.106956

Fuckin' Joelasko gave me a 35 day deadline, misses and pushes it back, and then misses the new deadline. I've enjoyed working with him in the past but it's not the first time he's done this and I feel like he doesn't really have respect for his commissioners the way he tests people's patience.

His skill has also stagnated or arguably gotten worse the way his faces and proportions sometimes get wonky so I don't really mind not commissioning him anymore.

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 No.106957

>>106863

>wont post

obviously a liar and a faggot

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 No.106972

>>106916

>>106927

literally has had an artist beware up for years, ALWAYS check it before comming an artist,she's always been a scam artist

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 No.106973

File: bb44c66c22661f8⋯.jpg (18.43 KB, 236x252, 59:63, 1560197104843.jpg)

>artist prioritizes stream commissions over normal ones

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 No.106988

File: cb6d5db77f73eef⋯.jpg (51.65 KB, 523x510, 523:510, 1560915930583.jpg)

>artist fucks up

>report them to paypal, ko-fi, or the IRS

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 No.107000

azelyn... hand over the commissions...

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 No.107002

>>106412

This was years ago, but

>pay upfront for a commission from an artist who I'm pretty good friends with and talk to regularly.

>Almost immediately they become more distant and harder to talk to, often leaving me in silence

>Give them an entire fucking year before I get sick of it and ask for a refund after they've been taking and posting other people's commissions the entire time.

>They say they can't afford it right now, and will refund me when they can.

>Another year passes of them growing increasingly hard to get a hold of

>I finally give up entirely and break contact.

This was my first ever commission, I didn't pay art for years after this because of it.

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 No.107006

>>107002

You should've destroyed their public credibility in response then by posting the chat logs to warn other people to not commission them

That would've really motivated their lazy ass to get the work done

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 No.107049

>azelyn opened up for even fucking more god damned commissions

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO LET ME OUT I NEED MY FURRY PORN STOP WHIRRRING ME AZELYN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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 No.107052

>>107006

I'm a nobody who no one would believe, and after 2 full years logs would have been hard to get my hands on.

For the record, it was ZombieAddict on FA

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 No.107053

File: 6adab21634d1fdb⋯.jpg (57.39 KB, 362x447, 362:447, c1838571.jpg)

>watching an artist for over a year

>I've been wanting to get art with them ever since I joined the fandom (a year ago)

>they finally open up

>send in my request

>they actually start working on it immediately and send me twitter updates constantly

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 No.107054

>>107002

What was your commission description? I want to try my hand at it.

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 No.107056

File: f985c2a2546833f⋯.png (61.46 KB, 591x259, 591:259, b&rp.png)

>artist btfos disgusting whites

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 No.107057

>>107052

I'm more inclined to believe a credible story from an anonymous person on a mongolion throat painting forum than some furry sperg trying to damage control accusations away, anyways

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 No.107062

>>107053

Congrats

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 No.107099

thoughts on commissioning russian artists?

lately I have been seeing a lot of them, they have great art styles for their prices but I am worried because they're russians that they're going to fuck me somehow later on down the road since commissioning them gives too much info

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 No.107137

>>107099

Very hit or miss, best to do research

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 No.107145

>>107099

Do research but I've generally had good experiences (like check their gallery to see that they actually post stuff on the regular etc.)

I think a good deal of them are just undercutting the market because of exchange rate stuff.

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 No.107155

>>107145

>>107137

so I don't have to worry about them hooking me up with bitcoin miners when I go to accept my commission files or anything, right?

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 No.107178

Does anyone know any good ref sheet artists? I'm sick of sending in 4 pics and trying to explain exactly how my character should look.

I really want someone who draws nice, detailed ref sheets so I can really use it as my "definitive" look, so to speak

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 No.107487

>artist draws a picture for greyshores that escaped my blacklist

>every time, without fail in the comments section:

>"DAE 2 ASSHOLE = MORE FUN XD UNGA BUNGA MORE BETTER NO MATTER WHAT"

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 No.107899

File: 191bc767db98f66⋯.png (18.45 KB, 552x211, 552:211, favoritism.png)

>Artist ignores their own rules and shatters all integrity and trust and gives random people special treatment because feelings

Would you ever buy anything from someone who is more than willing to not bother to treat people equally because of their OCs?Where some people will get to play significantly less for full service just because the artist decided to like that person in particular? Odds are you'll never get the spontaneous benefits and would always have to pay substantially more for something than someone else who's otherwise, as a customer, in no different a position than you?

Thanks for raising the red flag with that reality check! Guess we won't be doing business with you!

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 No.107908

>>107899

by any chance does this artist honor refunds or let you decline commissions without problem if they give you a different price because they dont like your character as much as someone else's?

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 No.107909

>>107899

I bet you get mad over female celebrities that are too pretty to go to jail despite being caught drunk driving and possessing marijuana.

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 No.107968

>artist opens up during steam sale

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 No.107975

>>107899

>some rando gets a stream commission from an artist

>likes their character so much that he instantly gets invited to their discord and gets free arts from the artist all the time

>halts a drawing for a loyal customer that supported the artist for years just so the artist could draw an extra freebie for their "new friend"

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 No.108002

>>107899

Fucking sluts man.

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 No.108003

>>106748

>>$125USD up front and i'm required to watch his stream to get it worked on.

The desperation oozes out of that.

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 No.108004

>>106748

Thats the reason I don't take commissions, being worried that too many requests will be too hard to do, so I disappoint everyone, AND have to return money, AND worked for nothing.

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 No.108109

>>106445

You can't afford a fursuit unemployed

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 No.108114

>>108109

>what is furry welfare

You might get even more than an average wage in "donations" from your sycophants but you're still technically unemployed.

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 No.108368

File: 179ef951453d19a⋯.jpg (346.47 KB, 1031x1018, 1031:1018, 1554852290629.jpg)

>make new account on e621 so I can tag my commissions with my character's name because people have decided to not bother doing that shit anymore despite the fact that the character tag exists

>get banned within 2 minutes and 31 seconds by ratte for ban evasion and my edits to uploads of images I paid for to be created are undone

>can't get put on the DNP list because I'm not an artist

>can't even find all of my shit that ended up on e621 because of the beyond fucked tagging job the uploaders did which nobody has changed

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 No.108383

>>106952

>>106918

Because the BO tried to take a middle of the road approach and isolate both cub posters and anti cub posters in their own respective threads.

Well the cub guys have politely stuck to their own threads while the anti cub spergs have continued to run rampant and derail over multiple threads.

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 No.108395

avante92's a nigger...

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 No.108409

>>108395

How so?

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 No.108440

File: bff5194d7536db4⋯.png (5.51 MB, 1800x2500, 18:25, куница.png)

File: af4aff79d52fb79⋯.jpg (238.8 KB, 930x1280, 93:128, 1558555046.hi-ku_img045.jpg)

File: 7b22c2bbc72165d⋯.png (449.87 KB, 1300x1452, 325:363, dariamarten.png)

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>>107099

I've worked with about a dozen different Russian artists so far and thrown more money at them than I want to know, so I think I'm qualified to offer my opinion here. I'm 2 weeks late with this reply, but oh well

They tend to offer much lower rates for any given level of skill, plus there's just something that makes me like working with them more too. I suspect that Russian artists are more likely to have a genuine interest in art that they then later use to draw furry shit, whereas many "Western" artists may only get into art because they like furry shit and then want to learn to draw it as a result. It's at least the impression I've gotten.

What you will have to look out for though is very few can type in perfect English, so you will need to get a feel for what they're actually trying to say. Most that I have worked with have an understanding of English that's just a step above google translate, so you'll need to speak in simple terms that would be easy to translate. Only a very small minority of them are good enough at English that it doesn't really stand out that they're not a native speaker. Miscommunications will happen, but I've found that most are happy to correct those mistakes if you are polite and reasonable about it. As with any artist, give them the sniff test and try to get a feel of how likely they are to actually do your thing and to do it properly.

Know what you're getting into, but I definitely like working with them. Just be smart about things and you'll be good. I've been in the game 4 years and never been scammed once. Be polite and courteous, but make sure to still stand up for yourself if an artist tries to pull some bullshit on you.

>>107155

I would be impressed if they managed that. I've not noticed any real difference in how Russians like to send finished files vs others.

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 No.108441

>>107899

I don't see an issue in this stuff much to be entirely honest. If I were an artist, I would want to have more of my work be with content that I like than with content I don't care for at all. As I see it, the core of the issue is keeping the artist happy with the work they are given without it becoming overly burdensome to other people who would want art too. Someone being given a discount doesn't hurt anyone else in queue. It might be upsetting to see people get discounts that you aren't getting, but if you agree to a price and then get upset when you have to pay that price you agreed to, then the issue is on you. Making it a little easier for friends to get slots than average Joe is fine too if it can be done without stepping on anyone's toes. When looking at this sort of problem, I like to try to view it from the perspective of the artist, the artist's preferred clients, and the average Joe.

I will not begrudge an artist wanting to charge a slight premium for hating my character or something like that. In fact, I think it's dumb for the client to willingly buy art from an artist that they know does not want to draw for them. It does show in the final product when the artist cares, so I try my best to find artists who will like the ideas or characters that I have to offer. All of that said, artists drawing for the same few people over and over again without taking on much stuff from new people is one of my bigger pet peeves.

>>107908

From my experience, they'll often actually be kinda happy if you back out once told that the artist really isn't looking forward to drawing for you at all. Just make sure you do that before they actually start the piece though, otherwise you will only annoy them more.

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 No.108443

>>108441

>As I see it, the core of the issue is keeping the artist happy with the work they are given without it becoming overly burdensome to other people who would want art too.

The artist should just turn down work they don't want to do. A lot of artists will still take your money and then either half-ass it or just ignore it until the you have to start pestering them after seeing other people commissioning the artist well after you and getting their art while you're waiting weeks/months longer than everyone else.

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 No.108445

>>108443

It's easy to say that and I do generally agree that an artist probably should probably turn them away, but if the artist doesn't have much of a following, then they might have to take whatever they can get (within reason). I still think it's fair for an artist to take on an idea they don't like if they are up front with their client about it and let their client know what they are getting into. Work isn't always fun and sometimes your best option is to just bite the bullet and get the crappy stuff done so you can move on

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 No.108446

>>108445

>up front with their client about it and let their client know what they are getting into.

The problem is that they almost never do this. You usually won't know that you're gonna have a 3+ month wait while everyone else who commissioned something similar has a 2 week wait until it happens.

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 No.108457

>>108441

of course someone who's been favored by an artist would see no problem in benefitting from an exploit

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 No.108468

>>108440

Rasha 2.0

Please fuck off

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 No.108492

>>108446

Yeah, that's the real kicker. When an artist isn't upfront with you about them disliking your idea, that's pretty annoying to me. When they use that dislike as an excuse to delay your piece and start work on a new batch of commissions instead, that's when they'll really start to get on my nerves. If they keep on that route and it's close to 180 days and they still don't want to work for me, I'm doing a paypal refund whether they want me to or not. If I'm spending money on an artist, I fully expect them to be able to deliver on what they promised me (or at least have a good reason why I need to wait). I'm not paying someone if they're not going to do what I paid them to do. Communication can solve so many problems you'll have with commissions, but it still takes two to tango. Whatever I'm doing seems to work as I've never lost any money or had to press the refund button myself yet.

>>108457

I suppose you'll just have to take me on my word here, but I don't actually get much in the way of benefits from anyone aside from preferential slot treatment (because to them, I am a reliable, no-fuss client that is easy to work with). I used to be the random nobody to whichever artist though and I do my best to not forget that.

With the preferential slot treatment, I use that to give myself flexibility on when I can claim a spot in queue with the "downside" here being that I have to be flexible on when they do it (which is usually after finishing their existing queue or in between two complicated pieces from other clients). I will explicitly tell artists I work with closely that I do not want to let them have this turn into me getting way more slots than anyone else is able to get otherwise.

A rather talented artist that I used to be friends with was really nice to work with and did lots of work for people who weren't regulars, but they slowly started to make themselves more and more exclusive over time. It's been over a year now since I've given them even a single penny. They were the one artist who actually would give me discounts or the occasional free 60 second scribble, but I'm still not coming back to them until they can be more open with who they work for again.

>>108468

I see a lot of people not liking the guy and I know he has that weird pokemon thing for a character, but that's about the extent of my knowledge on him. I'll need to know the lore on him before I can confirm or deny such a comparison. We both get a lot of art and make you salty, so I assume he's someone I may like 🤔

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 No.108493

>>108468

how is that guy rasha 2.0 in any way, do you just not know any other names

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 No.108695

>Artist charges 50 dollars extra to keep an image private

one way to make sure you won't get a repeat customer out of me after the first commission

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 No.108697

>>108695

get fucked

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 No.108699

>>108695

kill yourself

>muh private art

it's porn the fact that you think it shouldn't ever be seen by the public is so fucking selfish and absurd

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 No.108706

>>108699

As the commissioner, you implicitly have joint copyright, unless prior arrangements are made. Thus, either of you can restrict where it can be publicly posted.

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 No.108707

>>108706

and that comes at the price of the work not serving as a promotional vehicle/portfolio piece for the artist, so you'd be stupid not to charge extra for a private commission.

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 No.108714

>>108707

So charge more then. I'll find an artist that values my rights.

Is'nt the free market great? :)

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 No.108722

File: cbf92c3d5826fbd⋯.jpg (17.6 KB, 200x200, 1:1, 1400660536912.jpg)

>>108695

>>108697

>>108699

>>108706

>>108707

>>108714

>tfw you became friends with literally one of the best concept artists in the world and they made pics of your OC for your birthday, twice, for free

I was ready to pay several grand for a picture from them and they just up and surprised me with them one day. They didn't make it on their portfolio, just like 100% of the rest of the stuff they draw for their clients, since, you know, they draw for a living and all stuff is under NDA for actual valid reasons unlike dealing with furry schizos. But with my stuff it's probably to keep random faggots from pestering them for free art. But I'd be perfectly okay even if they took credit for the character idea and not mention me, since I'm a nobody and nobody would care even if they thought they "stole" it, and I'd get nothing out of it either way, and because the art is just that good.

The complete opposite of seeing you cook up all this drama for some $15 chicken scratch of your shitty uninspired sparklesona from talentless furfag "artists".

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 No.108723

>>108722

>NDA for actually valid reasons

If both parties agree to sign, it's a valid reason. Sorry that furry privacy laws don't belong to a AAA studio bub, but the law isn't your plaything...

>I'd be happy for them to steal MY character

Oof, hot take. Yikes.

Cope

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 No.108724

>>108723

In one case it's to protect IPs during development, the other is just some schizo trying to pretend their shitty sona and ego are important.

Yeah, I guess I should've figured you wouldn't understand how friendship and mutual respect works, since you have no friends.

>Oof

back to Roblox with you.

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 No.108726

>>108722

It's okay bro, I believe it!

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 No.108727

>>108699

>>108697

I'm sure you guys are open to the idea of posting just crops of privately commissioned porn, right? I might have an idea

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 No.108748

>>108722

this is real

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 No.108752

File: 5bcd85e3b2daad8⋯.png (132.27 KB, 168x200, 21:25, 1410130526090.png)

>>108726

>>108748

>let us all reply to this post to show just how much we don't believe it

the best part is that whether or not you believe it is irrelevant because you're insignificant.

which was the point of my post, meant to show that your insignificant drama about your insignificant pictures of your insignificant sonas is... insignificant.

though it seems it went right over your heads once again.

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 No.108754

>>108752

And it's irrelevant to us because all you're doing is fabricating stories you're coming here hoping and expecting people to believe on 8chan no less based entirely off of your words alone and no actual proof for anyone to get jealous or envious over, you are literally just throwing out an idea or concept and trying to tell everyone what to feel.

No one cares. But feel free to keep replying to yourself and exhaust your folder of halfchan reaction images spamming the thread to bump limit, no one's going to stop you because no one cares to stop you either. Post something worth caring about or gtfo, this thread isn't for stroking people's cocks or egos it's for calling out shitty things artists do.

Polite sage.

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 No.108756

>>108752

i appreciate the irony in this bait

how do you want us to respond to the basically nothing you've posted anon? don't tell me this is spawned from you wishing you could see how other people react to images depicting "your" character because you're jealous of comments the public gets to their uploads and you have to fish for imaginary comments to imaginary things here

also you only got 3 replies, 2 of which were tiny, relax and stop being so desperate for the attention you're acting like you're so above by being proud of having things you intentionally and supposedly didn't want anyone to see for a reason, sounds like that backfired for you champ

tell me i'm seething or super jealous or poor pitiful and meager or whatever and apply some more reaction images so i can know exactly what to feel in response to your empty attention whoring posts that have nothing to do with the thread

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 No.108758

File: ae8eeae6ffd0707⋯.png (78.3 KB, 271x245, 271:245, 1413111571799.png)

>>108754

>>108756

I laugh because you are literally destroying yourselves with your own words.

You are acting exactly as expected from someone who thinks their shit is important when it actually isn't.

No one cares? Of course no one cares, but why does it awfully look like everyone has been crying for someone to care about them?

Muh artists and muh fagsonas and muh pictures muh copyrights and which site they get uploaded to and who gets to see them and which pronoun they use to address them.

You act like fucking divas over some shitty imaginary character drawn by an even shittier artist.

You thought I expected you to get jealous over my post, which is where the sweet, sweet irony lies in. Who would think of being jealous over who draws whose imaginary character other than stereotypical furries with inflated egos? This goes beyond whether it's real and/or you think it is.by the way, it IS real, which makes it even FUNNIER

I guess that's why your characters also dress and act like divas themselves.

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 No.108761

>>108758

what is your point exactly

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 No.108762

rip the thread the whole rest of it is just going to be this one dude jerking off himself and his fantasy and then an out of nowhere political derail as posts continue to get longer and longer

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 No.108763

>>108758

Anon, do you actually, genuinely like your freebies or do you only like the fact that you can use them as leverage to feel superior over people who don't know what you're talking about in the first place?

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 No.108766

>>108761

The point is that you're dumb for worrying this much about the feelings of an imaginary character literally nobody in the world is aware of except you and that you're even dumber for commissioning shitters with unacceptable work ethics and sub-standard skills and get ripped off just because they have a lot of twitter followers for throwing political bitchfits and not because they're good artists.

>>108763

They're my most treasured possessions, since they are the heartfelt gifts of a friend. Not that you'd know anything about that.

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 No.108771

>>108766

why is your entire message filled with inaccurate assumptions?

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 No.108830

>>108766

well anon I'm glad you have artwork from an artist who's style you like, I'm still trying to find one that won't fill me with second thoughts or remorse that I can wholesomely love

no bs i legitimately wish to god i could finally find an artist who's works i could truly be satisfied with this shit is as hard as getting a girlfriend

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 No.108842

>>108830

I find a lot by looking at the favorites of people who interact with my stuff. By doing it this way, it makes it so I'm looking at people who usually have some shared interests with me and that I am looking at the stuff they enjoyed too. If you have little to no following on FA, you can instead look at people commenting on pictures you like, faves of the people who you know like the stuff you like, or something else along those lines. Looking at other people's faves has easily been my #1 way of finding new artists.

I wouldn't call it hard so much as I would time consuming. One of the easiest ways to make a picture not be to your liking in my experience is to rush on selecting an artist for the picture. It's probably good that you're being picky about it, so I guess this is more to reaffirm that. It always feels like the artist you need isn't out there, but unless you're wanting some super specific niche kink that only 3 other people in the entire world are into, then it's probably just that you've not found those other artists yet. There have been many times where I have felt like I'd never find an artist to do some specific thing to my liking, but in every case, I eventually did find an artist for it. Sometimes it will take a long time, so you just have to learn to wait.

If you're wanting an artist to draw a specific kink but having trouble finding an artist to do it, sometimes all you have to do is see if they've done something similar in a promising manner, then just ask. With the snow leopard covered in cum here >>108440 the artist had no similar piece in their gallery prior to that. They had some pictures with cum, but was all fairly normal amounts (by furry standards). What cum she had drawn though was drawn very well, so I just asked her and she said yes. Several other people have now gotten similar pieces from her thanks to me getting it. I've seen similar things happen with people asking for something like macro too with different artists. In the case of macro, before asking, I'd just check to see if it looked like the artist was good at backgrounds, extreme perspectives, or other shared traits.

>>108758

no u

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 No.109883

Not really a complaint but

>commission artist once or twice

>never comm them again because I assume everyone hates my character and will stop putting effort in due to burnout if I come back more than twice

it's an abstract kind of hell

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 No.110158

>>107056

>the non-white definition of soul is artery-clogging "food"

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 No.110166

>artist overcharges

I'm not paying 40 dollars for such medicore images

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 No.110183

>>110166

Okay brainlet

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 No.110214

File: 1fe57f199490317⋯.png (495.87 KB, 2048x765, 2048:765, Screenshot_20190722-015511.png)

>artist offers free art as a honeypot to shittalk people

based FUCK people who don't buy all their art

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 No.111289

>>110214

Ah, free art sniping. Doable but ultimately unethical. Like visiting everyone in town who's giving away kittens because you need to feed your pet snakes.

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 No.111303

>>110214

>mutuals prefered

why not just fucking do it in private then, thats one thing i despise on twitter is this new trend of announcing mutual posting. "im taking commissions~! mutuals only" why post in the first place ya cunt

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 No.111595

File: 1d32aafea4a7113⋯.gif (450.91 KB, 392x410, 196:205, 1532609921330.gif)

>Artist completes your commission you paid for 3 monthes ago

>Doesn't fucking tell you

>You have to find out yourself by sheer chance and intuition

>It was posted nowhere but their patreon

>No email was sent

>Nothing at all

>You have to fucking pay extra just to fucking see your own shit which wasnt even mentioned up front back when you placed your order

This bitch must be out of her fucking mind if she thinks she can triple dip on me and then ghost me out of my own fucking order

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 No.111649

>>111595

<Not giving us the artists' name to warn other Anons here so this will probably keep happening

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 No.111650

>>111595

>>111649

Really it's his fault for not checking their Patreon. Sorry, but he's at fault here.

>Triple dip

You paid for a commission, and (didn't) pay for their Patreon. How is that 3 times?

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 No.111652

>>111595

Ask for your picture and if they won't give it to you directly, just hit them with a chargeback

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 No.111656

>>111650

checking their patreon is exactly how I found out

when I pay for a commission, like everyone else I expect to at least eventually receive my image, which is a pretty normal and reasonable thing to expect especially when the artist has no written statements saying that you not only have to pay for the image to be made but you also have to pay to even see what the fuck it even turned out to be

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 No.111658

>>111656

You paid for them to draw the image, not to own or receive it. You didn't get a written contract preventing this, either.

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 No.111659

>>111650

>>111658

Are you fucking baiting or are you actually this dense?

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 No.111664

>>111658

Just like I didnt sign a written contract promising I won't chargeback them either and if I choose to do it they're the ones who have to eat shit while they work for nothing.

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 No.111669

>>111656

>>111652

>>111658

>>111659

>>111664

I think we're all missing the REAL point here...who the fuck is the artist that did this so we can fucking avoid that person and not get ripped off?

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 No.111674

>>111669

>Giving money to furries

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 No.111709

>>111674

Wise man

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 No.111714

>>111709

True, you should give your money to God instead, that you may free your spirit of the dependence on the material and let in faith.

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 No.111722

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>>111714

Or I could buy the materials to make my own fleshlight and jerk off to my pirated furry porn.

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 No.111731

Imagine being so fucking entitled that you, under no legally binding signed contracts, exchange funds under no obligations other than the fact that an image to your specifications be created, and expect to have any rights to this image or to even receive a copy of it, as if you seriously have no idea what it even fucking means to commission somebody. You put in an order to have an image be made and paid for this to happen. Okay, fine. Many artists then would want you to pay them via paypal, and say that the money is being given to a friend rather than exchanged for a nondescript 'digital good'. Did that happen to you? Then that's where you fucked up. Eat shit. You can't chargeback in that situation because legally you did nothing besides gift some money to a 'friend'. You cannot say that you didn't receive something you paid for because when you threw away your money, it wasn't done under terms in which anything states that you are meant to receive anything back for it. Better luck next time, I'm sure your charitable donation is appreciated~

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 No.111746

>be baiting fags on Amino

>Have to draw some furry art to keep my cat fish alive.

>Spend my free time pencil drawing a scaly shortstack.

>Take a picture.

>Post literal only pencil photo.

>Get a DM.

>"You should do commissions."

Now I see how so much shit art gets put out everywhere.

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 No.111786

>>111731

If someone pays you to do something and you agree, but then don't follow through they could still potentially sue you for it if they took screencaps of the conversation.

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 No.111796

>>106437

Dude, do you think people go to work and then start whining to their boss how tired they are ?

If you want to make money off of your art, treat it like a job, I don't give a shit how tired you are, I pay you and expect you to deliver.

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 No.111806

>>111786

>suing

Ah, the american's way of lashing out when they can't have their own way all the time.

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 No.111817

>>111806

I'm not retarded enough to give furnigger artists money, I'm just giving you a heads up to be careful when scamming those who are, because you might run into one who decided to be careful and then you'll be fucked if they're autistic enough to make it a legal issue.

Don't get too arrogant, that always bites people in the ass.

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 No.111822

>>108004

I'm an artist who makes a living doing furry art full time.This would never happen. There is this psychological thing where you can be insanely productive and fast, when the workload is massive.

And then the closer you get to point X, which is the hypothetical point at which you've turned in all commissions, every commissioner has replied 'awsome, no more revisions due thank you so much' and you've gotten back to all of them with a last 'ty for your commission' response email... The closer you get to that day you'll find your productivity decreasing. It's completely bizarre and makes no sense at all but it is SO incredibly real. Like a chewed bubblegum that bends and stretches, defying logic.

For this reason there's no point in even trying to 'clear the entire backlog'. And I've had 3-10 commissions due literally every day for the past 2 or so years.

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 No.111829

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>>111806

>I-it's not fair! I was supposed to cheat you and you not be able to do anything about it!

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 No.111846

>>111669

It'd be nice to know, but around here seems like too much to ask

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 No.111848

>>111846

Well considering their attitude you probably wouldn't encounter them anyway, since they clearly want to remain obscure.

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