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You are born as freedom. It is just that you have been conditioned to forget it.

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 No.2787

Michael Flynn, the former Trump national security adviser, pleaded guilty in federal court to the charge of lying to FBI officials about a conversation he had with the Russian ambassador. Flynn’s defenders have insisted his lie was innocent and immaterial.

Late Friday afternoon, the Trump administration released the transcript of that conversation. The timing itself does not indicate much confidence that the transcript would support Flynn’s interpretation (late Friday afternoons not being the customary time to drop favorable news stories). And indeed, the transcript makes Flynn’s call look even less innocent.

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On December 29, 2016, President Obama announced economic sanctions against Russia to retaliate for its interference in the presidential elections. Flynn, Trump’s incoming national security adviser, quickly got on the phone with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. When word of the phone call leaked, the administration announced that the call had merely served the purpose of touching base and exchanging pleasantries. “On Christmas Day, General Flynn reached out to the ambassador, sent him a text, and it said, you know, I want to wish you Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, I look forward to touching base with you and working with you,” announced Press Secretary Sean Spicer. “The call centered around the logistics of setting up a call with the president of Russia and the president-elect after he was sworn in.”

The FBI, which was already conducting a counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia, asked Flynn if he and Kislyak had discussed the sanctions. Flynn insisted he hadn’t, a lie he later pleaded guilty to.

Flynn’s lawyers insisted his call was “consistent with him advocating for, not against, the interests of the United States.” That depends heavily on how one defines “the interests of the United States.” In December 2016, the United States had a strong interest in punishing and deterring hostile foreign governments that had stolen the private communications of American political figures in order to affect the outcome of the election. By January 20, the United States would have a very different interest.

That context looms over the Flynn-Kislyak call. The U.S. government at the time was treating Russia’s efforts to help Trump win as a hostile act. The beneficiary of those acts was not.

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 No.2788

A recent lengthy polemic supporting Flynn by conservative reporter Eli Lake presented this defense of the call:

The idea that Flynn had behaved illegally, let alone unethically or immorally or unconventionally, in discussing U.S. foreign policy with the Russians during the transition is beyond absurd. He was the incoming national-security adviser. Phone calls between incoming senior administration officials and foreign governments are common during a presidential transition. And given what is now known about the context of that phone call, the initial spin in the press that Flynn’s conversation with Kislyak had undermined the outgoing administration’s policy was misleading.

The transcripts today quote Flynn telling Kislyak, “Do not, do not uh, allow this (Obama) administration to box us in, right now, okay?” If that does not constitute “undermined the outgoing administration’s policy,” what does?

Two days later, the two men held a follow-up call, in which Kislyak made the premise more explicit. “I just wanted to tell you that we found that these actions have targeted not only against Russia, but also against the president elect.” Flynn replied, “Yeah, yeah,” accepting the premise. Kislyak then said he agreed with Flynn’s request not to retaliate. “We have decided not to act now because, it’s because people [presumably the outgoing Obama administration] are dissatisfied with the loss of elections, and it’s very deplorable.”

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 No.2789

Flynn’s discussions with Kislyak were not part of a criminal conspiracy. They were, however, part of a secret channel of communications, the premise of which was that the two parties had a secret common interest against the United States government. One word that might describe this relationship would be “collusion.”

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 No.2790

"MUH RUSSIA" : a completely legitimate criminal investigation based pn FACTS, but notvallowed to proceed due to Barr's meddling at the behest of trump

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 No.2960

OF COURSE HES GUILTY

THEY ALL ARE

DUHHHHH

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 No.2968

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The amount of mental gymnastics you'd have to go through to still be spouting muh Russia after all this is astounding! There WAS collusion with Russia to steal an election, but Flynn had nothing to do with it. It was your boy Obama and your gal Hillary and the entire Deep State – and you damn well know there is a Deep State. You also know how lawyers judges and courts twist shit, threaten and cajole. You also still listen to Rachel Maddow, so I'm wasting my time with you; just like you're wasting your time trying to convince anyone that anyone else is more guilty than (You)! I know I'm one guilty motherfucker. Can you say the same? Or are you too busy trying to blame "others" for all the problems you see in the world? Ever thought of changing your perspective? The whole world could look different for you if you accepted some personal responsibility and let serenity even have a place at the table…

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 No.3001

>>2968

These leftists are going to start getting very scared when the average American has had enough of their bullshit and we just start shooting them, and killing them off. Which very well might actually happen in the next 8 to 10 years. The anger is not just one-sided here. Shit is getting damn dangerous now. Notice the 2+ million guns sold the last month alone and all those ammo shortages recently? Ohhhhh yah.

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 No.3002

>>2789

The only enemies we have are those who want to, and/or are willing, to try to disarm us. You best remember that.

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