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File: b211352ff78a08a⋯.jpg (62.34 KB, 358x326, 179:163, 20180911_182233.jpg)

2a3493  No.142376

Should I clench my shoulder blades when doing deadlifts? Should I keep them clenched throughout the whole movement (up and down)?

>pic unrelated

5958f8  No.142377

Read Starting Strength.


a53955  No.142381

>>142377

Checked.

Can I ask you something? Why do you bother at all to respond if you do not have the intention of properly answering the question? Do you do this often or is it just sometimes?


9481ef  No.142383

>>142376

If you do not relax and protract the shoulder girdle some and allow a little "play" in the thoracic spine at the bottom of the lift, you are limiting your reach slightly and decreasing the total possible weight you can lift by a small amount as well as promoting shortened muscles in that region from lacking range of motion. People with longer arms or longer reach achieved by good form generally have a leverage advantage in the deadlift. Likewise, if you do not retract the shoulder girdle and slightly shrug upwards while straightening the thoracic spine by sticking the chest up and out slightly (Exaggerating this part is a beginner mistake, especially in competition, but bodybuilders may opt to prioritize higher ranges of motion to achieve more results with less exercise varieties and auxiliary work. For example, using this as an opportunity to do shrugs.) you are failing to go the full range of motion and stopping short of completing the lift.


a53955  No.142385

>>142383

Thanks; appreciate it! I was also wondering if standing calf raises are as good on the Smith Machine as they are on a free barbell? I know that regular barbell is probably better, but if it is almost the same, I'd prefer doing them on a SM…


3284a0  No.142387

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a53955  No.142388

>>142387

This is actually spot-on. Exactly what I needed. Thanks a lot!


0936e8  No.142402

>>142387

This just shows how ridiculous and off-putting most advice is. When I first worked out with a bunch of gymbros even on my best set they'd tell me 'dude you're doing it wrong be careful!' and get triggered when i said I was just going to do my best and learn as I went along. I'm sure this stuff matters for competition level lifting but noobs should just make sure they're positioned right (ass down, calves touching bar) and try to keep it together as they go up. No one can reasonably learn a complex lift (or really anything, for that matter) if they have to follow a million ques given by egotistical morons speaking a language that doesn't cater to precise bodily description, and criticized for every little slip up.

I'm fine with bad form, I can squat and deadlift way more than the sensitive "bodybuilders" at my gym who still think their back is going to break if they actually put some muscle into it.


432655  No.142403

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>>142402

>I'm fine with bad form, I can squat and deadlift way more


60f7d1  No.142427

>>142402

>>142402

holy fuck, how retarded are you?


01ad31  No.142430

File: 39e9ca729ef027c⋯.jpg (98.92 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 1472966828433.jpg)

>>142402

I'd like to see how you do 340lbs deads with improper form, for reps.


0936e8  No.142488

>>142430

I will freely admit that I can't do that at all, but almost no one I know comes anywhere close because they aren't fucking pushing it, they're treating weight training like yoga class and just trying to keep themselves in a comfortable position as they casually raise a 'safe' weight, I'm making gains by putting my ass into it despite not getting every little angle right.


146bd8  No.142489

File: b9fedec2b5b4736⋯.jpg (27.95 KB, 497x604, 497:604, doubt.jpg)

>>142488

I was lifting 315lbs during my sophomore year in high school. I doubt people who can lift that much are rare at any gym, unless you're at some zumba class.




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