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0f97e3  No.141233

>be in supermarket

>check ingredients of tuna

>soy

>check ingredients of turkey breakfast sausage

>soy

>peanut butter

>contains soy

>Greek yogurt

>may contain soy

>see whey powder on special

>5th ingredient: soy protein isolate

>hummus

>soybean oil

Why? And how bad would it be to eat any?

612b96  No.141234

>Why?

It's really cheap.


cad5fe  No.141235

>>141234

>It's really cheap because monsanto struck a deal with the government to subsidize any and all soy crops

ftfy


2b95af  No.141236

I successfully avoid all soy (and all other legumes), wheat, and vegetable oil intake. You're on easy mode. It's only hard when you want to find chocolate without soy lecithin, but you can usually go with baking chocolate in that case.

Soybeans and soy sauce are strangely high in polyamines, which makes their frequent intake suspicious. There are various associations with polyamines and cancer, and if there are foods which are uniquely high in polyamine content, they ought to be put under a lens.

• Okamoto, Akiko, et al. Polyamine content of ordinary foodstuffs and various fermented foods. Bioscience, biotechnology, and biochemistry 61.9 (1997): 1582-1584.

https://doi.org/10.1271/bbb.61.1582

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb1992/61/9/61_9_1582/_pdf

>Soybeans, tea leaves, and mushrooms were conspicuously rich in spermidine, while oranges contained a large amount of putrescine. Among the fermented foods, soy sauces were rich in putrescine and histamine, while Japanese sake contained plenty of agmatine.

• Jänne, J., H. Pösö, and A. Raina. Polyamines in rapid growth and cancer. Biochimica et Biophysica Acta (BBA)-Reviews on Cancer 473.3-4 (1978): 241-293.

https://doi.org/10.1016/0304-419X(78)90015-X

• Gerner, Eugene W., and Frank L. Meyskens Jr. Polyamines and cancer: old molecules, new understanding. Nature Reviews Cancer 4.10 (2004): 781.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nrc1454

>The amino-acid-derived polyamines have long been associated with cell growth and cancer

• Russell, Diane H. Increased polyamine concentrations in the urine of human cancer patients. Nature New Biology 233.39 (1971): 144-145.

https://doi.org/10.1038/newbio233144a0

>WE have found that patients with various types of solid tumours and leukaemias have considerably increased concentrations of the polyamines such as putrescine (diaminobutane), spermidine and spermine in their urine. Polyamines are small cationic substances, which occur ubiquitously in nature¹. Because enhanced polyamine synthesis and accumulation are characteristic of rapid growth systems²⁻⁶ it seemed possible that they might serve as indicators of rapidly proliferating tumours.

• Thomas, Thresia, and T. J. Thomas. Polyamine metabolism and cancer. Journal of cellular and molecular medicine 7.2 (2003): 113-126.

https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1582-4934.2003.tb00210.x

>Polyamines are aliphatic cations present in all cells. In normal cells, polyamine levels are intricately controlled by biosynthetic and catabolic enzymes. […] Multiple abnormalities in the control of polyamine metabolism and uptake might be responsible for increased levels of polyamines in cancer cells as compared to that of normal cells.


2b95af  No.141237

>>141236

This wasn't meant to scare you into a frantic search for polyamine content of foodstuffs, btw. After all:

"It has been well documented that polyamines (putrescine, spermidine, and spermine) are essential components of all living cells and play diverse roles in cellular metabolism and growth."—Okamoto, Akiko, et al. 1997

It's just that soy sauce seems somewhat unique in its polyamine content. It might be something worth investigating.


c2e69a  No.141245

Have you tried buying meat and not pre made foods.


0f97e3  No.141246

>>141245

I work 60hr weeks and barley have time to lift let alone cook. I'm looking for a new job hopefully working 40hrs. I sleep 9 hrs a day and maybe lift 10hrs a week total.


928df4  No.141250

>>141246

>lift 10hrs a week

You bodybuilding? Because if you just tryna get stronk liek bull, you're being time-inefficient about it. But if you tryna get big liek bull, that sounds about right.


928df4  No.141251

>>141234

Like this anon says, soy is in everything for the same reason HFCF is in everything.


32198a  No.141252

>>141233

>"may contain soy"

Don't worry about that unless you have an allergy, there is a negligible amount of x in food when it says "may contain (traces of ) x". That's basically a disclaimer that they use the same equipment as the thing they're saying it "may contain" so if somebody gets an allergic reaction and dies, they won't get sued.

Now, to critique your other food choices.

>tuna

Has tons of mercury. You should opt for seafood that isn't so high on the food chain.

>turkey

They feed poultry mostly soy; poultry is not ideal unless you get it from a local farmer that doesn't feed soy. Wild-caught seafood, 100% grass-fed beef/lamb, and game meat are better choices. You can make an exception for organic eggs 'cause they're too nutritious to justify excluding, try to find local ones though.

>peanuts

Are a legume, and thus are not food.

>whey powder

You can easily order pure 100% grass-fed organic whey protein online, why settle for anything less?

>hummus

Another legume, Arab shit this time.

>And how bad would it be to eat any?

Unfermented soy protein has lots of estrogen. So anything that contains whole soybeans (including soy 'milk') or soy protein will turn you into a faggot. As for a little bit of soybean oil or lecithin, I think the concern is moreso GMO's, pesticides, and the carcinogenic nature of the processed oil.


928df4  No.141255

>>141252

>mercury

Not a problem; the selenium in tuna "negates" the mercury the same way a paycheck "negates" your bills– so long as your bills aren't higher than your paycheck. Same thing with fish higher in the food chain (and thus more mercury than selenium) like swordfish and shark.

>peanuts & hummus = not food

lolwut

>protein powder

Or you can just eat real food.


0f97e3  No.141265

>>141250

I'm trying to get strong which yeah you're right I could be better with more time.


4413bf  No.142193

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>soy in tuna

>soy in yogurt

>soy in peanut butter

>soy in hummus

Holy shit being American must suck. Even the cheapest, shittiest, most mercury riddled tuna doesn't have soy. Also hummus should only be done with olive oil.


4413bf  No.142194

>>141252

What about fermented tofu? It doesn't have estrogen?


d840c2  No.142197

>>141233

>tuna

get in the can or try a different canned fish

>turkey breakfast sausage

don't eat any meats with more than one ingredient on the package

>peanut butter

get natty peanut butter

>greek yogurt

may contain soy means it is processed in the same facility, you are fine

>whey protein

don't use protein powders, eat meat and eggs

>hummus

make it yourself or stop being a mudslime

All your problems could be solved by preparing your own food and only buying single ingredient foods.


7dcbba  No.142204

found out vegetable oil is actually 100% soybean oil so i started buying canola oil.


bd069d  No.142208

>>142204

>consuming Canadian oil

Fucking gay.


54c7f8  No.142209

>>142204

>low erucic acid rapeseed

Even if that stuff was healthy (it's not), all oil from seeds is extracted using hexanes (read gasoline).


7dcbba  No.142210

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>>142209

>>142208

k, whatever you say fags

>>142209

All oils are extracted using either cold press or heat pressed grinding you moron.


54c7f8  No.142211

>>142210

Traditional shit like olive oil sure. Otherwise enjoy your petrol


7dcbba  No.142213

>>142211

ok i'll enjoy my cooking oil, go cook with your mineral oil


8364e0  No.142237

>>142193

I see you are a trap lover, anónimo.


3040b8  No.142281

>>142204

Use olive oil faggot


655106  No.142284

>>142281

Olive oil is for fags too. Use lard.


9d6b4a  No.142333


59ec4b  No.142338

You think it's bad now? Guess what, china put a tarrif on imports of US soy. Now there's a glut of US soy. It's going to be in everything. Hope next year farmers plant something else.


a62647  No.142339

>>141233

if your tuna contains soy it's because you're looking at the stuff packed in oil (soybean oil). Just buy the stuff canned in water. I've also never seen peanutbutter compounded with soy.


47c7cb  No.142366

It's hard man. It can be done. There are a few peanut butters, without soy. Chobani yogurt doesn't contain soy or GMO. At least on the label. There are a few peanut butters that don't contain soy. There is one mayo that doesn't contain soy (that I've found).

It's a large front loaded time-sink, but just set an afternoon aside and go through the grocery store finding nonsoy of shit you like, they exist.


47c7cb  No.142367

>>141234

Irrelevant and false.

In the late 90s early 00s there was this big craze of "healthy oils goy!" going from vegetable oil, to canola oil, to soybean oil.

Additionally when you see it in a lot of shit the reason most often given is as an emulsifier, an emulsifier is used to separate base parts while mixing them together.

Soybean oil is not a cheap or effective emulsifier. It's being forced into foods for (((reasons))).


47c7cb  No.142368

>>142197

>may contain soy means it is processed in the same facility, you are fine

False. That's the line used so they can force add soy to shit without saying it's in there.


47c7cb  No.142369

>>142366

>>142367

>>142368

I'm astounded /fit/ doesn't know that shit.

I'm further astounded that /fit/ doesn't know about soy being a phytoestrogen.

I'm aghast that /fit/ doesn't know about the incredibly harmful effects phytoestrogens have on humans.

You all know about bitch tits? I hope.

It's called gynecomastia and soy causes this. *it's caused by an imbalance in estrogen and testosterone in men which is caused by soy the phytoestrogen


928df4  No.142378

>>141233

>not immediately putting protein back on the shelf when it has more than two ingredients (or one if not whey)

Not gonna make it.


d840c2  No.142391

>>142368

Easy fix then, don't eat that brand.




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