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File: 94c14fc4d55ea43⋯.png (142.51 KB, 373x282, 373:282, sad usagi.png)

b7ef63  No.140160

How do you not stuff your face when you are depressed? When nothing else sounds good besides eating, how do you stop from just feeding yourself until you reach a comfy, glutted state?

>too depressed to play vidya

>too depressed to watch anime

>too depressed to read or write

Also it's like 100 degrees outside so going out for a walk isn't even a fucking option. Normally that's what I do but sunburn is not going to make me feel any better.

b2f1bf  No.140164

Why don't you stop being depressed then, ya faggot? Being depressed is 100% your fucking fault. You have third-world-tier mental hygiene. Take steps to fix it.


b7ef63  No.140165

>>140164

Thanks for the genuine and helpful response, I'm sure that will work. It's not like genetic predispositions or an inescapable situation play any factor. Of course not. Call me a manlet, a cuck and a soyboy now, if you like.


b2f1bf  No.140167

>>140165

Glad I can help. Here's some healthy habits you can begin in order to clean up your mind so it doesn't look like the psychological equivalent of a Nigerian airport.

>meditate

>clean your room

>stop binge fapping, gaming, watching anime, eating (you are addicted to fast easy pleasures in case you didn't notice)

>get enough sleep

>eat healthy

>exercise (even if it's 100 degrees, or do it indoors)

>accept the circumstances you can't control, and focus on what you can control

>undo your submissive attitude (see previous tip)

>take these steps a little bit at a time so you don't freak out and commit more self-destructive behavior like binge eating

>set small goals and carry them out, set progressively bigger goals until you're the person you actually want to be and not the person who makes you depressed

>your mental state is literally a habit, so is everything in life, have a good mental state by making good positive mental habits t. the wizards

>it's not "genetic" you gay faggot, I don't care if your parents are sad sacks of shit, go meditate and eat a carrot goddamn

There. Now stop being a gay muh depression redditor, and become the chad you were born to be.


b7ef63  No.140168

File: 9b134f68cb33d69⋯.jpg (125.34 KB, 899x693, 899:693, jp sad.jpg)

>>140167

>can't physically meditate- I've tried many times

>thanks dr. peterson

>okay. already did. (if I stop gaming I will do nothing- this includes my only "social" life)

>I sleep too much

>I've been ONLY eating minimal healthy shit

>I can't run indoors silly, what else am I supposed do?

>what I can control so nothing besides not doing the things I enjoy. Got it.

>lol that's a good one

I was born to kill myself. Chad is an inheritance, much like money and good fortune— none of which I have.


d7d965  No.140169

>>140160

>How do you not stuff your face when you are depressed?

If you are hungry and depressed, there's no reason not to stuff your face (with nutritious food). Your body stops making nearly as much of the protective anti-stress hormones that uplift your mood when you stop eating. These same hormones rejuvenate, promote the loss of excess body fat, and stimulate muscle growth.


b2f1bf  No.140170

>>140168

>can't physically meditate- I've tried many times

I'm not sure what your notion of "meditate" is, but there's no way it's impossible for you. You're not going to be able to totally clear your head on the first try. It's an exercise in focus, and it's a skill to cultivate. Keep trying.

>thanks dr. peterson

I'm not memeing, or trying to be the meme-man. Cleaning your environment is a way of physically manifesting the respect you have for yourself. If you have clothes and food wrappings strewn everywhere, this is a direct representation of your filthy mental state and self-disrespect. Clean it up.

>okay. already did

Good. You don't have to quit it, just make sure you've earned it by doing what you needed to have done that day.

>I sleep too much

You know what to do then.

>I've been ONLY eating minimal healthy shit

Good.

>I can't run indoors silly, what else am I supposed do?

Do push ups you fucking brainlet. Buy one of those pull up-bars that you mount on the door frame. Do push ups and pull ups every time you feel like a soy noodle (every hour is bretty good). Do stretches if you're too weak for that. Or go outside.

>what I can control so nothing besides not doing the things I enjoy.

This is a shit-tier attitude, and it's why you're depressed. It sounds like you want a lifestyle that's completely incompatible with your reality. I don't want to give you a gay pep-talk about chasing your dreams, but obviously cultivating skills that will improve your life situation and health will be good for you. Yeah I wanna play vidya and watch anime all day too, but I also want to earn a good living, master my craft, and not die alone. I can enjoy my vidya and anime without a guilty conscience because I know I've put the effort into those goals.Thus, you ought to find the habits that bring you closer to your ideal-self, and integrate them into your identity. tldr: Embrace the joyous struggle of life, or kill yourself.


b7ef63  No.140175

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>>140169

Yeah but once I start eating it's all I want to do.. I had a salad about fifteen minutes ago, plenty to be full, and stuffing my face is now all I can think about.

>>140170

>my notion of "meditation"

I define meditation as achieving a mental state of personal quietude, tranquility and peace. It has NEVER worked for me and I've tried many, many times. It's simply too frustrating.

>not memeing

Dude you memeing so hard. I've watched a lot of JP's stuff; I even read his shitty/good new book. His advise is helpful for young men and people whose lives aren't already in the gutter. So I clean my room. What does that do about the rotting, moldering ceiling hanging over my head or the bugs crawling all over everything?

>don't have to quit it

The way I see it if I'm going to "improve" I need to quit doing everything I enjoy and exclusively do things which are painful, difficult or unpleasant in some way.

>you know what to do

Be awake more so I can contemplate my own misery? I've started getting up in the morning instead of 2-3 in the afternoon. Just more hours of the day to feel miserable and wish I was dead.

>Good

I suppose.

>Push ups

I have gimp wrists; I can't even do 5 girl pushups without cramping up and feeling like I'm going to die. I've never done a single pull up in my life, and merely holding my enormous bulk up by hand for a period of 2 seconds is near impossible.

>shit tier attitude

>joyous struggle

Funny stuff. I would kill myself if:

>I had a means to do it

>I wasn't a fucking coward

>I didn't have my sick mother depending on me.


b2f1bf  No.140176

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>>140175

>make a thread asking for help

>refuse all advice as useless and renounce the will to live

No amount of bullying will save you, and now I'm sad. If you're not going to kill yourself, maybe learn to lucid dream instead? Then you can make the most of sleeping and find happiness.


b7ef63  No.140177

>>140176

I was asking how to not crave food, not how to fix my broken life— which has been beyond repair for fucking years.

And I've been trying to learn to lucid dream for years too- I've got 8 or 9 comp books full of dream journals. I've had virtually no success inducing a lucid dream; and when I do it's always the same shit. Nothing works for me.

I'll myself sooner or later, and hopefully when I do I will be about a hundred pounds lighter than I am now.


961741  No.140183

>>140160

Sailor moon pix are ProTier

do whatever you want so long as you are happy anon


8ee79f  No.140184

>>140177

>I was asking how to not crave food, not how to fix my broken life

You crave food because of your shitty, broken life, and your shitty broken life is never going to get better until you unfuck your body and brain by eating right and living healthy.


b7ef63  No.140185

>>140183

Respect. I'm not, and never will be though.

>>140184

Thanks Dr. Freudstein, I never would have guessed! Unfortunately that is a Gordion knot that I have no idea how to fix. I just want to not feel like I need to be stuffing my miserable fat face every second of every day.


8ee79f  No.140186

>>140185

The advice was already given to you in >>140167 and you rejected it


b7ef63  No.140187

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>>140186

because none of that shit WORKS. I have tried literally all of those things and FAILED. Either that or felt no better. Why do you think I am resorting to desperate measures to try and lose this fucking pig-gut?


8ee79f  No.140189

>>140187

<you quit jacking off for 3 months

<you went on a diet of whole foods only for 3 months

<you started exercising at lest 4x a week for 3 months

<you quit playing video games for 3 months.

Bullshit. You tried it for a few days and gave up.


b7ef63  No.140191

>>140189

So while I sit here, miserable, alone, depressed and suicidal; with nowhere to go, nothing to do and no one to know- after that period of time- what do you suggest I do instead? I can't simply work out non-stop. I have some other hobbies but they are all garbage. I have no money. I have no job.

And I'll have you know I quit jacking off for 6 months thank you very much.


57981a  No.140195

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>dropped out of college

>10 fucking years of shitty literal wage slave service jobs where I can't afford to live without assistance from someone else

>thought my depression was related to my societal unworthiness and poorfagging

>finally got a good job where I make enough money to theoretically enjoy life, and doing something that isn't a complete waste of time for ungrateful pricks

>still no happier

>maybe I'm unhappy because I'm fat

>go to gym, lose 80 pounds

>still no happier

>maybe the internet is having a negative affect on my psyche

>delete my social media accounts and try to avoid imageboards because of their negativity

>still unhappy, and bored, and now can't communicate with anyone because they all exclusively use FB messenger like a bunch of soy-chuggers sucking on fuckerberg's teat

>I know I should work on my project car and get that finished

>order $1800 of performance parts

>can't muster the motivation to install any of them

>eventually just give up on everything except going to work and doing the bare minimum there

>sit in my filth for an entire year eating garbage food, shitposting, and playing long-running youtube series' for background noise

>mom is coming over tomorrow for the first time in years

>can't let her see how I live now because she'll probably make me go to some jew shrink who will put me on drugs that eradicate what little personality I have left, and ruin orgasms too

>there's dishes in my sink that have been there for 16 months (i've just been eating off scraps of cardboard and tupperware lids)

>never got a dishwasher

>I have to scrub each one in a multi-stage process to get the pond scum off them and make them actually clean

>the scrubbing is giving me RSI and I just want to get in my car and run into the nearest brick wall at 120mph so I don't have to deal with this shit


b7ef63  No.140197

>>140195

Man I wish had your drive. You sound like the kind of person who actually needs anti-depressants. I wouldn't recommend them though, just smoke weed instead since you have money to afford it.


79499e  No.140199

>>140195

Damn you got a fucked endocrine system or something.

Look for mental stimulation. Something that stimulates and feels precious or valuable. You need more ego or something; find an ego doctor.


57981a  No.140202

>>140199

Every positive change in my life gives me about two weeks of good feelings, and then it's back to the same old shit. I was only able to achieve them in the first place because I convinced myself it would finally be the solution to my shitty feelings, and powered through in hope of a better tomorrow. Then I achieve the thing, feel happy for a handful of days, and return to the status quo.

I sit around in self-reflection a lot, and the source of my issues is probably how I'm almost a wizard and I've never had a relationship at all, so I've convinced myself at my core that I have no value and all my achievements are just faking it. It's not for lack of trying, either. I always think I'm getting along good with a girl, try to set up a date, and then find out in some soul-crushing way that she never once thought of me as a potential partner, like I wasn't even on the radar as a person. At some point I stopped trying to get a girl too, told myself I didn't want one anyway because they're all whores now and etc, but every fucking holiday I spend alone, every time my passenger seat is warmed by a pizza instead of an ass, it stings. Now I'm guaranteed never to find anyone because I'm so mentally fucked I've shut off the section of my brain that handles anything related to women, and I don't even give them the time of day anymore because I know it won't get me anywhere. I even stopped finding them attractive. I see pictures of 3D 10/10 girls and just pass over them, it's all irrelevant because I'm some kind of unlovable mutant apparently.


b7ef63  No.140204

>>140202

Same, exactly the same here.


b7ef63  No.140205

>>140204

Except seeing 3d 10/10 or even 6/10 makes me feel like shit. I hide half the threads I see because they're full of succubi that make me want to an hero.


57981a  No.140210

File: 24d8df3b9bcb55a⋯.gif (953.6 KB, 375x211, 375:211, 1355716409240.gif)

>>140195

>almost done the first stage of the dishes

>mfw scraping slime mold off of everything

>poured out a measuring cup that was just full of black sludge

>silverware at the bottom of the sink looks like artifacts they pull up from shipwrecks

>have thrown out a bunch of tupperware because it's cheap enough that I'd rather just buy new stuff than try to clean this

>when i finally got the water drained, the bottom of the sink was coated in a solid half inch of congealed disgusting mystery that I had to scrape out with a paper towel so it didn't clog the drain


c80774  No.140240

>>140175

eat only what you want to eat. You ate a salad, and I'm not sure you were craving a salad. Look, life is already shitty as it is, it becomes even more shitty when you're depressed. Eat what you crave in reasonable quantities, do it slowly and soon things will get better.


e8349f  No.140243

I conditioned myself to lift when depressed


1de9b7  No.140244

>>140243

Please elaborate, I'd like to know and hopefully help myself


308acf  No.140245

>>140240

One thing my mother taught us is that if you crave something specific to eat, there's a reason to it. Years later, fatties took the idea up to deny that eating fifteen cheeseburgers is too much, but there's a truth within every lie, as no one can be consistently wrong. The truth here is that your body is pretty smart and knows what you need, you only have to learn to listen. So if you are dying for a banana no matter how much you ate, you gotta eat a banana. Chances are you lack kalium or so. Just make sure you differentiate the healthy cravings from the unhealthy, purely psychological ones, like craving chocolate whenever you watch a movie because you always eat chocolate when watching a movie.

>>140243

I did that too. I guess going all out in the gym gave me an outlet for my shitty thoughts. Back then, there was some serious shit going on in my life, I swear I once almost started crying while deadlifting.


51042e  No.140266

File: 119b1066021ee26⋯.gif (2.34 MB, 547x359, 547:359, 1495377553306.gif)

>>140195

You have the money, most of those dishes should be thrown out and new ones bought. (Hey Mom I just bought new silverware and shit).

You are doing exactly the opposite of what this site recomends. Read the sticky my man. Read it again and do it.

the tl;dr version would be to

>stop eating shit (sugar and refined carbs mostly)

>go to the gym and dont stop after you lost 80 pounds

for your mental health I would suggest

>do the steps above

>clean your shit up

>get in contact with old acquaintances

>get your project car finished

Give it time, no need to run to the end of your life.


73b61e  No.140268

>>140266

Well I finished the dishes at 10am having not slept for over 24 hours, did surface-level cleaning around the rest of the house. She didn't show up. Her friend who moved away 7 years ago was coming back to town, so she stayed to meet her, and then the "friend" flaked on her, visiting other people instead. At least Mom got what she was giving.

You'll probably say "at least the house is clean now" but it isn't. It's just normalfag-dirty instead of hoarders-dirty. So I've now wasted two days of my three day weekend, the first weekend I've had more than a single day off in months, when I could have been doing anything but cleaning. Would I actually have? Maybe, idk. My job is hard enough that the time would have been better spent just getting some fucking sleep and letting my joints recover, instead of exhausting myself for appearances.


51042e  No.140270

>>140268

take a week off then. Or just 3 days, whatever.

Your work is straining you and you don't even realise it.


d3e6e6  No.140279

>>140160

My eating is regulated because I don't eat ultraprocesed foods.

I'd suggest to anyone doing that. If it didn't grow or if it didn't come from a mother, then don't eat it. There are a few exceptions to that last rule like whole grian bread or some canned legumes I eat sometimes, but for the most part your diet should be like that.

Once you get the habit of eating right, your taste will accommodate and become regulated. You'll no longer have cravings for food, you'll no longer want those ultraprocessed products that are so bad for you.

If it's veggie or fruit, you can eat all you want and it's usually a good thing. You get naturally tired of it, I mean as good as a fruit is you're not gonna want to over eat that.

So do that and go to the gym and lift, start by doing that. Get a personal trainer if you can, a good one. My trainer explained to me all this stuff in detail. Things like how these chemicals get attached to the inner part of your veins and how exercise makes your blood flow super fast and your body's chemicals clean those inner walls as a result.

I'm also a loner and I get depressed sometimes but I think anyone who understands this should be able to do it, it's not that hard really, it's more like seeing things in a different way.

Like, think of it as every time you eat, you have a choice: you can choice to put poison on your body or you can choose to put nutricious food with so many nutrients to make you healthy and help with your training. When you get it, it's a no brainer.

That's why now it's easy for me to reject white bread in a restorant or cake at someone's party. I'm just not gonna put poison in my body. I love myself enough for that and so should anyone.


57981a  No.140281

>>140279

I did this for a while and ended up eating an entire sack of Clementine oranges every two days as my go-to boredom snack

I figured having to peel them would slow me down. I was wrong.


853107  No.140282

>>140268

one step after the next anon, that's what you got to do to get anywhere.

I've noticed it so many times working on something, when tools and bits of scrap and shit are all over the place it depletes your cognitive capacity - keeping track of shit and where everything is. Take a few minutes to tidy up your workspace and you start feeling progress being made, and you don't spend 1/2 your fucking time looking for tools. Working on cars you probably know what I'm talking about.


e8349f  No.140284

>>140244

Whenever I feel depressed, I start lifting, or doing calisthenics. At first you have to force yourself, but after some time, it becomes natural. Just do it.




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