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11d0d1  No.139411

Is it possible to fix a bad posture after 30?

80b327  No.139413

Yes, stretch and do appropriate lifts. Google will help you.

Sage for low effort post.


9640eb  No.139415

>>139411

What a beautiful smile. It shines across time and space to pierce cold hearts in dark rooms. A crooked face to straighten crooked souls—nobody would believe it if you told them, but the light of truth is blinding and must be taken in by surprise.


065c23  No.139416

yes, but you will still work around your already formed bones.

You should really go to a doctor, do some x-rays, and then get a prescription for the correct type of stretches. Don't expect those pussy stretches you see on youtube: good physiotherapy is often painful and you have to do it every day.

If you can't afford a doctor, look for the athlean-x on posture and other advices. In general most people have their back fucked up and athlean-x has the best exercises for the back.


5fea54  No.139419

What's the ideal recuperation time for muscles?

lets say i do my calves, how much time should i wait before doing them again?


b6829b  No.139422

>>139411

Absolutely. Posture is more than capable of varying throughout life. While progressively poor posture and osteoporosis is the general trend with aging, these ailments of degeneration sometimes see reversal with the supplementation of endogenous hormones—namely pregnenolone, androgens, DHEA, and vitamin D (actually a hormone)—and essential vitamins—usually vitamin K, vitamin A, riboflavin, and antioxidants such as vitamin E and vitamin C. Physical therapies may involve traction as in inversion tables that allow one to hang upside down or reverse hyperextensions that pump blood into the lumbar spine while gently pulling the discs apart.


c0bc4b  No.139437

>>139422

What?!


9640eb  No.139454

>>139437

I think it's helpful to understand the potential causes of poor posture. In an experiment, melatonin deficiency was induced in mice, and the result was scoliosis, which was prevented 100% of the time with the administration of melatonin.

Machida, Masafumi, et al. "Experimental scoliosis in melatonin‐deficient C57BL/6J mice without pinealectomy." Journal of pineal research 41.1 (2006): 1-7.

https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1600-079X.2005.00312.x

But does this mean melatonin deficiency causes scoliosis? Well, it turns out melatonin is an antioxidant:

Reiter, Russel J. "Functional pleiotropy of the neurohormone melatonin: antioxidant protection and neuroendocrine regulation." Frontiers in neuroendocrinology 16.4 (1995): 383-415.

https://doi.org/10.1006/frne.1995.1014

>Likewise, melatonin was found to also scavenge the peroxyl radical which is generated during lipid peroxidation; in this regard it was roughly twice as effective as vitamin E (α-tocopherol).

It also seems that darkness is a generalized stressor… in plants:

Gogorcena, Yolanda, et al. N2 fixation, carbon metabolism, and oxidative damage in nodules of dark-stressed common bean plants. Plant Physiology 113.4 (1997): 1193-1201.

https://doi.org/10.1104/pp.113.4.1193

But also animals!

Baydas, Giyasettin, et al. Daily rhythm of glutathione peroxidase activity, lipid peroxidation and glutathione levels in tissues of pinealectomized rats. Neuroscience letters 323.3 (2002): 195-198.

https://doi.org/10.1016/S0304-3940(02)00144-1

>Lipid peroxidation levels increased progressively during the night

As melatonin specifically protects against lipid peroxidation, can we find any other antioxidants that prevent scoliosis? Yes, vitamin E, which also protects against lipid peroxidation.

Machlin, L. J., et al. Effects of a prolonged vitamin E deficiency in the rat. The Journal of nutrition 107.7 (1977): 1200-1208.

https://doi.org/10.1093/jn/107.7.1200

>After 5 months, rats became emaciated and developed kyphoscoliosis.

This means polyunsaturated fats and excess metals such as iron are likely villains in scoliosis, and either deficiencies in antioxidants or too much lipid peroxidation will create scoliosis. But when actual human children with scoliosis were examined instead of mice genetically deficient in melatonin, the children were found to have normal melatonin levels.

Bagnall, Keith M., et al. Melatonin levels in idiopathic scoliosis: diurnal and nocturnal serum melatonin levels in girls with adolescent idiopathic scoliosis. Spine 21.17 (1996): 1974-1978.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8883197

>Whereas pinealectomy in young chickens leads to reduced melatonin levels and the development of scoliosis, the results of this study suggest that melatonin levels in mature patients who already have severe scoliosis do not differ from healthy subjects.

One might assume those mice were kept in an artificially lit laboratory away from the sun, and they probably had a standardized diet containing antioxidants. However, children in general do not have standardized diets, but they do tend to play in the sun. This leads me to believe that darkness and lack of endogenous antioxidants was a causative factor in creating scoliosis in the mice—and lack of dietary antioxidants or too many lipid peroxides in the children. (Although the children may have been saved by avoiding darkness more than than had.) This leads me to believe that any program aimed at healing the posture must first stop doing damage by prolonged darkness, excess polyunsaturated fat and metal (namely iron) intake, and continuing deficiencies in general dietary antioxidants such as vitamin E. Can you straighten up by doing that much? Maybe, maybe not, but if there's a fighting chance, it includes reducing polyunsaturated fat intake to a minimum.


4523f5  No.139457

>>139454

Holy fuck. Not even who asked, but thanks for the info dump. Got any other knowledge about melatonin and sleep in general to share? I've always been a mess with it.


9640eb  No.139459

>>139457

While melatonin can be used to force sleep, but I generally don't recommend it in spite of its antioxidant qualities, because as you saw a deficiency is probably rare even in those with scoliosis, and there are unsavory side effects I don't think most people would like. If you do resort to using melatonin, however, typical doses are outrageous, and I would almost rarely advise more than ~0.5 mg. If you need antioxidants, you can probably stock up on vitamin C and E. You saw melatonin compared to alpha-tocopherol above, but there are other forms of vitamin E such as gamma-tocopherol which would be worth comparing in a search for additional studies. No amount of antioxidants can replace the benefit of not putting the excess polyunsaturated fats in the body in the first place.

A Riboflavin deficiency will negatively affect circadian rhythm.

• Miyamoto, Yasuhide, and Aziz Sancar. Vitamin B2-based blue-light photoreceptors in the retinohypothalamic tract as the photoactive pigments for setting the circadian clock in mammals. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 95.11 (1998): 6097-6102.

https://doi.org/10.1073/pnas.95.11.6097

As will either a diet high in polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA) or having tissues loaded down with PUFA from a long history of eating them, because PUFA works to destroy riboflavin with UV light.

• Cardoso, Daniel R., et al. Riboflavin-photosensitized oxidation is enhanced by conjugation in unsaturated lipids. Journal of agricultural and food chemistry 61.9 (2013): 2268-2275.

https://doi.org/10.1021/jf305280x

An excess of PUFA could easily contribute to insomnia in this way.


9640eb  No.139460

>>139459

>I would almost rarely

*I would rarely


c0bc4b  No.139465

>>139459

But i don't have scoliosis anon.

could you answer my other question >>139419

please ?


5f1bfc  No.139466

>>139465

>But i don't have scoliosis anon.

Never said you did, friend. I was just identifying some factors that can contribute to poor posture since you were interested in maximizing your uprightness.

>>139419

It varies a lot, so there is no universal answer. Calves tend to heal more quickly since they are very metabolically active and used frequently for walking.

It is known that the more a muscle is used, the more resistant it becomes to damage and the better it becomes at healing more quickly. Tendons don't recover at the same pace though, so this trend becomes limited very fast.

https://doi.org/10.1152/jappl.1988.65.1.1

As far as average recovery times ago, I am unable to find any definitive scholarly articles at the moment, but a common figure is 2-4 days. Experienced weightlifters and bodybuilders will probably tell you of many times where a full week (or two!) was needed for complete recovery from a particularly hard workout. Their muscles may heal very soon in these instances, but tendons take longer and generalized metabolic fatigue affects the overtrained.


12ba66  No.139467

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>>139466

thanks for the detailed answer mate


7848eb  No.139469

Boy sminem cool.


77e32c  No.139473

File: 8e4f450e3e7f68d⋯.png (210.47 KB, 322x403, 322:403, sminem.png)


d2aa1c  No.139475

>>139473

He kinda looks like Putin tbh


000000  No.139645

planks




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