/fit/ - Fitness, Health, Exercise, Dieting, etc

You've never ate sugar? How are you vegan?

*never tried sugar the last couple years

>>138892

you don't eat any fruit?

>>138893

I do

>>138894

That's sugar. Put that aside though and answer me this: did you make this thread so that /fit/izens can congratulate you on being healthy or did you make it for advice?

Probably not, and you seem naive. Many drugs have wonderful health benefits. Sugar is a great stress reliever. Among supercentenarians (110 year olds+), both eating sweets/chocolate and smoking seem to be frequently occurring themes. I don't recommend eating a gallon of refined sugar though. Sweet fruits everyday are much more reasonable. When you add sugar to a food that already has many vitamins such as egg yolks + milk (ice cream), it can also be a good thing, because the supplemental sugar isn't causing one to deplete vitamin stores as would happen in candy absent of nutrition.

Supercentenarians probably get away with smoking because nicotine is a nice stimulant and smoking relieves stress. You're still likely to get lung cancer from it, so I don't recommend that either. Pure nicotine is more reasonable, but I really just want to illustrate the way of life that allows someone to get that old. They are masters of stress relief who are impossible to influence with society's orthorexia and autism. They don't care what society says is unhealthy. They just live their days without fear or regret. When they get tired, they just sit down and have a smoke or eat some chocolate. Nobody is going to tell them that they better shape up or they'll die young anymore.

>>138895

I'm new here so I wanna know what they think, the kind of sugar in fruits isn't the same artificial sugar in the processed food

>>138896

>Supercentenarians probably get away with smoking

HAAHHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

kys just cus you watched a 3 min troll video at nat geo about a centenarian doesn't make it true

>fear or regret

what does that shit even mean?

>>138897

There's not much use in making big distinctions between sugars other than glucose and fructose. Fruits have both kinds. The important part is that the fruits come with vitamins and minerals. Refined sugar is just pure sugar. If you have something nutritious to add the pure sugar to, you can make it work, but sugar by itself hardly counts as food.

>>138896

>drugs have wonderful health benefits

like what?

>Sugar is a great stress reliever

That's just you, just cus you are a sugar addict doesn't make it healthy.

>>138900

Carbs in general are stress relievers. It's why people get addicted to it. The anon is right, having low stress is a big part of staying healthy. Reminds me of Taoists who live for centuries by not giving a fuck.

>>138898

If you don't believe me, I'll post the list I have on my desktop when I get home. (On my phone now.)

>>138900

Caffeine is an adaptogen. Aspirin is effectively used in the treatment of cancer. Methylene blue is a memory enhancer and metabolic stimulant. Tetracycline kills chronic infections and lowers nitric oxide.

>>138901

define "stress"

>>138903

Not having energy can be stressful. A drop in blood sugar means a subsequent rise in cortisol. When the liver stops responding by releasing glycogen stores with gusto, adrenaline kicks in and cortisol gets even higher. These stress hormones break the muscles and bones down to be used as fuel. The body starts to fall apart from lacking an outside supply of energy. This is stress. Making sure such a process doesn't start is antistress, and sugar plays a fundamental role in providing the energy to combat the stress.

>>138904

Any kind of other health organic food with body moving will do the same thing which is better than drinking a litter of coke daily.

>>138904

If that were the case fasting would be most unhealthy thing you can do to the human body. It's not. The higher production of cortisol is for it's role in gluconeogenesis, not to break down muscle and bone. After adaption your body will transfer to using ketones as an energy source.

>>138905

Odd that you bring that up when I recommended fruit from the beginning. Sugar water goes good with liver though, since liver is loaded with B vitamins.

>>138906

Which is why my stance is that fasting is frequently harmful. It's also frequently beneficial in that fasters catch a break from toxic substances they don't know is in the food, and endotoxin produced by gut bacteria slows to a crawl. If you are able to keep your foods pure and your gut clean, there is frequently little benefit in fasting. In practice fasting often works such as in animal experiments where the control group dies sooner because of small amounts of heavy metals in the food which accumulate in tissues. If this accumulation of random junk is avoided, aging in general is often completely stopped.

>>138906

The production of glucose in gluconeogenesis frequently comes from proteins from broken down muscle tissue btw.

>>138902

>>138898

This is an incomplete list. I only stopped when I got bored.

• (11 May 1994). Margaret Skeete, 115; Oldest American. Los Angeles Times.

URL: http://articles.latimes.com/1994-05-11/news/mn-56253_1_oldest-american

>RADFORD, Va. — Margaret Skeete, listed in the Guinness Book of World Records as the oldest American, died Saturday at her home. She was 115.

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>Her daughter said she maintained a craving for sweets until a few weeks ago.

• (17 December 2005). The World's Oldest Person 2006. supercentenarian.com.

URL: https://www.supercentenarian.com/oldest/maria-capovilla.html

>Maria Esther de Capovilla reads the newspaper at her house in Guayaquil, Ecuador, Wednesday, Dec. 14, 2005. Soon after celebrating her 100th birthday, around the time the Berlin Wall fell, Maria Esther de Capovilla became bedridden and so weakened from a stomach ailment that a priest administered last rites. But she recovered, and now, 16 years later, she has become the oldest living person on Earth according to Guinness World Records. [AP]

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>At night, she has coffee with hot milk and bread with cheese or jam, and she says she can't do without something sweet: gelatin, ice cream or cake.

• (11 December 2006). World’s oldest person dies at 116. NBC News.

URL: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/16157420/ns/us_news-life/t/worlds-oldest-person-dies/

>Elizabeth "Lizzie" Bolden, recognized as the world's oldest person, died Monday at a Memphis nursing home,

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>Reporters were barred from a birthday party in August at which family Members say Bolden, who had a taste for sweets, was treated to ice cream and candy.

• (6 April 2008). Alcohol, cigarettes, chocolates and sweets - The secrets of a long life?. Daily Mail.

URL: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1008681/Alcohol-cigarettes-chocolates-sweets--The-secrets-long-life.html

>AI [sic: I?] was at the 121st birthday party of Madame Jeanne Calment, officially the oldest person who has ever lived.

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>The answer comes as a shock. It turns out that she was a gourmet who liked alcohol, cigarettes, chocolates and sweets. As well as her sweet tooth, she was fond of cheap red wine, fois gras and a rich local stew.

• (2 December 2008). Supercentenarians: What’s the Secret to Living past 110?. Diets in Review.

URL: https://www.dietsinreview.com/diet_column/12/supercentenarians-whats-the-secret-to-living-past-110/

>Edna Parker (pictured right), the world’s oldest person, has died at age 115.

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>More peculiar practices included eating more than two pounds of chocolate a week

• (27 October 2015). The oldest person in the world starts every day with bacon. Business Insider.

URL: http://www.businessinsider.com/susannah-mushatt-jones-loves-bacon-2015-10

>Along with chewing gum and her breakfasts, Judge said Jones' diet largely consists of fruits. She never complains of pain.

• (22 May 2016). Violet Mosse Brown — 116 amazing years!. Jamaica Observer.

URL: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/Violet-Mosse-Brown---116-amazing-years-_61711

>She was six months in the making at the turn of the 20th century and her parents, Elizabeth Riley (who lived to 96) and John Mosse, welcomed into the world their daughter, Violet, on March 13, 1900 — born on the same premises where she still lives, 116 years later.

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>"She likes fish and mutton and sometimes she will have cow foot," he says, "but she does not eat pork or chicken". Her other preferences are sweet potatoes, irish potatoes, breadfruit, and fruit, especially oranges and mangoes.

>>138912

• (8 Feb 2017). America's Oldest Veteran Says Ice Cream Is the Key to a Long Life. Good Housekeeping.

URL: https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/wellness/news/a42747/whiskey-ice-cream-long-life/

>Richard Overton not only survived World War II, but he's since celebrated his 110th birthday, all while enjoying life's guilty pleasures.

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>The supercentenarian prescribes to the "Overton diet," saying, "I eat ice cream every night. It makes me happy."

• (19 December 2017). Italian woman becomes Europe's oldest person. Il Globo.

URL: http://ilglobo.com.au/news/37178/italian-woman-becomes-europes-oldest-person/

>Italian woman Giuseppina Projetto has become Europe’s oldest living person after the death of 116-year-old Spaniard Ana Vela Rubio.

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>According to media reports, Ms Projetto lives with her descendants in the family home in Montelupo Fiorentino, near Florence, and swears by eating chocolate.

• (10 April 2018). Sweets and hot springs are secret to being world's oldest man says 112-year-old from Japan. The Telegraph News.

URL: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/10/sweets-hot-springs-secret-worlds-oldest-man-says-112-year-old/

>A 112-year-old man from Japan says eating sweets and hot baths are his secret as he was officially recognised as the world’s oldest living man.

• (10 April 2018). Japanese man, 112, recognized as world's oldest male. Reuters Oddly Enough.

URL: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-japan-ageing-oldestman/japanese-man-112-recognized-as-worlds-oldest-male-idUSKBN1HH1C0

>A farmer and lumberjack in his youth, Nonaka later ran a hot spring inn in his hometown of Ashoro, on Hokkaido island, 900 km (560 miles) north of Tokyo, and raised two sons and three daughters.

>Nonaka enjoys dipping in a spa and is fond of sweets, especially a strawberry sponge cake. He was joined at an award ceremony on Tuesday by relatives and officials.

>>138904

>These stress hormones break the muscles and bones down to be used as fuel

>muscles

>bones

>used as fuel

Confirmed for not knowing anything.

>>138918

Confirmed for knowing everything.

Bones are living tissues which respond to an organism’s demands by both shrinking and growing in density. Bones are not merely collections of minerals glued together, but they also contain collagen, which contains glycine—a glucagenic amino acid which may be turned into glucose to be subsequently used for fuel. Cortisol can cause the eventual burning of bone tissue for fuel through the stimulation of the secretion of parathyroid hormones, which directly causes bone resorption by increasing the number and activity of osteoclasts. This isn’t merely a theoretical feature seen in tissue cultures, but this catabolic effect of cortisol is a real situation seen in Cushing’s syndrome, or hypercortisolism. The catabolic nature of cortisol isn’t limited to muscle and bone, but it also plays a role in skin aging where it tends to make skin thinner over time.

Au, W. Y. W. Cortisol stimulation of parathyroid hormone secretion by rat parathyroid glands in organ culture. Science 193.4257 (1976): 1015-1017.

http://science.sciencemag.org/content/193/4257/1015

Sissons, H. A. The osteoporosis of Cushing's syndrome. Bone & Joint Journal 38.1 (1956): 418-433.

https://doi.org/10.1302/0301-620X.38B1.418

Vogel, H. G. Correlation between tensile strength and collagen content in rat skin. Effect of age and cortisol treatment. Connective tissue research 2.3 (1974): 177-182.

https://doi.org/10.3109/03008207409152242

>Short term treatment with cortisol acetate induced a rise in ultimate load and tensile strength, whereas long term treatment resulted in a decrease in ultimate load and skin thickness and an Increase in tensile strength.