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Nah it's fine. Just try to get organic at a minimum so you aren't drinking from cows that ate glyphosate contaminated grass. (May or may not apply to your country.) If you get constipation issues, you can drink more coffee, add more fruit to the diet, or switch to goat milk.

There's a lot of nutrition in milk, so it's a great convenience. People that talk of estrogens in the milk rarely talk from a balanced perspective that seeks to understand the sum total effect nor do they look to comparisons with other food choices. Fact is all foods have estrogenic and androgenic substances. Milk has both androgens and estrogens, but also vitamins which have anti-estrogenic and androgenic properties. You have to ask what is the sum total effect of milk on your constitution and perhaps avoid plastic containers and go for cardboard cartons or some other alternative. In addition to this, some or most of the estrogens may be sulfated and prepared for metabolic excretion, making them more or less biologically inactive compared to regular estrogens.

If you don't get your calcium from dairy, you'll find yourself eating leaves, bones, or eggshells.

>>138195

The most important thing is that it is at least "grass-fed", ideally "100% grass-fed". This will give the milk a good nutritional profile, lack of soy estrogen, good flavor, etc.

100% grass-fed > grass-fed > shit > grain-fed

packaged in cardboard/glass > shit > packaged in plastic

raw > pasteurized > shit > ultra-pasteurized

whole milk > shit > 1%/2%/skimmed milk

non-homogenized/cream on top > shit > homogenized

organic > non-organic

>not goat milk

literally plebeian taste

Milk sucks, make yogurt.

Yeah, I'm old, lactose intolerant now, you got me. Not a boomer

>>138202

i like goat cheese

Milk is for infants, not men.

>>138212

Nips love dairy though, might be a modern phenomenon but they sure treat it as a major indulgence.

>>138195

>not milking your wife while feeding her plenty of grass and hay

>>138268

>not making chuck roast from your former wife's shoulder

>>138269

>not rump roast

I hope Kim Jong Un nukes your house

>>138199

this.

organic non-homogenized is the way to go.

regular homogonized milk has bad stuff and is basically just water, vitamin d, and coloring.

organic cow milk is gonna have the good stuff that makes ur bones stronger

>>138693

most important thing for any products from cows or sheep is grass-fed

>>138698

I drink 0% milk, so it doesn't matter. The grass feeding just improves the omega-3:omega-6 ratio and puts vitamins in the fat. When you drink 0% all that is gone anyways.

Getting the fat from kale/spinach and chocolate isn't a bad option. The leafy greens will improve the omega-3 ratio while supplying the vitamins, and the chocolate will supply a higher ratio of stearic acid than typical dairy products. It's an alternative if you can't obtain grass-fed.

>>138195

It's okay if you have no problem digesting it.

>>138199

good post. I'd go an extra step and recommend raw milk, more nutrients, good bacteria and more easily digested

>>138730

raw milk isn't going to be certified organic, you would want to ask the farmer if the cows are grass-fed, if they get any supplementary feed other than hay what is it, if they vaccinate them, etc.

>>138731

but yeah raw milk is 10000 times better

>>138730

>>Louis Pasteur is a totally insignificant person in history

do your research. organic, non-homogonized milk is the most healthy thing for you, and it tastes amazing.

>>138732

Do you also eat raw veggies without washing or boiling? it's just a simple step that you can take to stay that much healthier.

a little dirt won't kill you.

>>138732

>le raw meme

Enjoy your infection

>>138205

Kek, me too. Gallon at a time. Easy.

Grass fed raw milk is the way to go, pastuerization kills any good nutrients in it and is actually harmful to people. Best cow breed is type A2

https://www.authoritydiet.com/a1-vs-a2-cows-milk-what-difference-benefits-nutrition/

I have no way of getting raw milk in Canada, I'd have to buy my own but no where to put it, so in the meantime I'm getting calcium from vegetables and going to start eating sauerkraut to replace kefir for those sweet probiotics.

Stay away from ALL pastuerized dairy, not sure how harmful pasteurized eggs are but I'm sure it kills a lot of nutrients.

>>138745

There's a company based in New Zealand that operates in the states that sell A2 milk exclusively. Going to have to check if their grass fed though.

https://www.a2milk.com/

>>138745

Best cow breed is Jersey Cows. A2 is a close second though. Boulder Colorado has an A2 milk that they ship throughout the USA last time I checked.

>>138745

>>138747

>>138748

If you can't find A2 milk or an alternative such as goat milk, coffee can somewhat alleviate opiate effects—perhaps mild constipation—associated with Bovine β-casomorphin 7 or alternatively those associated with wheat gluten consumption. Occasional use of an antihistamine such as cyproheptadine could counteract some of the histaminergic effects.

• Kurek, M., et al. A naturally occurring opioid peptide from cow’s milk, beta-casomorphine-7, is a direct histamine releaser in man. International archives of allergy and immunology 97.2 (1992): 115-120.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1159/000236106

• Fukudome, Shin-ichi, and Masaaki Yoshikawa. Opioid peptides derived from wheat gluten: their isolation and characterization. FEBS letters 296.1 (1992): 107-111.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1016/0014-5793(92)80414-C

• Boublik, J. H., et al. Coffee contains potent opiate receptor binding activity. Nature 301.5897 (1983): 246.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1038/301246a0

>We report here that instant coffee powders from a variety of manufacturers compete with tritiated naloxone for binding to opiate receptors in the rat brain membrane preparations, with no significant difference between normal and decaffeinated coffee. The receptor binding activity resembles that seen with opiate antagonists, in that there was no change in the half-maximal effective dose (ED50) in the presence of 100 mM Na+; on bioassay, the activity was similarly shown to be antagonistic and specific for opiate-induced inhibition of twitch.

• De Paulis, Tomas, et al. 4-Caffeoyl-1, 5-quinide in roasted coffee inhibits [3 H] naloxone binding and reverses anti-nociceptive effects of morphine in mice. Psychopharmacology 176.2 (2004): 146-153.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1007/s00213-004-1876-9

>These results suggest that the previously reported anti-opioid activity of instant coffee is caused primarily by the presence of 4-CQL, and to lesser extent by other cinnamoyl-1,5-quinides.

• Guzzo, Luciana S., et al. Cafestol, a coffee‐specific diterpene, induces peripheral antinociception mediated by endogenous opioid peptides. Clinical and Experimental Pharmacology and Physiology 39.5 (2012): 412-416.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1440-1681.2012.05689.x

• Wanderer, Alan A., and Elliot F. Ellis. Treatment of cold urticaria with cyproheptadine. Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology 48.6 (1971): 366-371.

☞ https://doi.org/10.1016/0091-6749(71)90083-2

>>138749

you post on raypeatforum don't you?

>>138757

I only lurk there. I get many references from using search engines on my own, but being familiar with the perspectives the is a valuable guide when interpreting studies.

>>138764

>perspectives the

perspectives there

>>138738

>>138742

raw milk is far more digestible than pasteurized milk and it has very beneficial probiotics, people say it takes great as well

raw milk was what people drank for all of history before pasteurization was invented, as long as its from healthy cows and it's not expired then it's fine

>>138745

baste canuck

Raw milk gives me instant gag reflex while pasteurized doesn't.

>>138783

that's probably psychological

If you're gonna drink it, get it raw or organic. But I wouldn't, milk is for babies. Baby mammals drink milk and the hormones are there for a reason, no way it's healthy for grown men to drink milk or consume dairy in general.

>>138824

fuck off, texas, they're separated by the mediterranean

>>138783

MINDSET™

I wish Aajonus was my dad.