Why aren't you using phytoandrogens yet? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1797194/>Subsequent 1H NMR and GC analyses of active fraction CB showed the major presence of the 8-carbon polysaturated fatty acid, caprylic acid, along with oth

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/fit/izen 04/07/18 (Sat) 11:23:34 No.136374

Why aren't you using phytoandrogens yet?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1797194/

>Subsequent 1H NMR and GC analyses of active fraction CB showed the major presence of the 8-carbon polysaturated fatty acid, caprylic acid, along with other lipids (figure (figure1313 and table table1).1). Bioassays using pure caprylic acid and other polysaturated fatty acids (PFAs) correlated with the augmenting effect of E. ulmoides on the AR (figure (figure14)14) in varying degrees. Ethanolic extract of coconut (Cocos nucifera) flesh, rich in C-8 caprylic acid and other polysaturated fatty acids [11], replicated the hormone potentiating effect of both E. ulmoides extract and pure caprylic acid in AR bioassays

https://examine.com/supplements/eucommia-ulmoides/#summary9-0

>The addition of the extract to a medium containing DHT noted that even at saturating levels of DHT, Eucommia ulmoides augmented signalling in the range of 112-204% of baseline.[1]

/fit/izen 04/07/18 (Sat) 14:47:26 No.136378

First time I've seen saturated fat called "polysaturated". I've been eating and recommending coconut oil which has caprylic acid though. Note also the effect on estrogen declared in the paper. Coconut oil in moderation is a well known weight loss promoter.

/fit/izen 04/07/18 (Sat) 22:59:15 No.136392

>>136378

That's the whole plant extract. Caprylic acid by itself has no activity on estrogen receptors. It should be common to expect phytoestrogens and phytoandrogens to occur in the same species, but irrelevant when you're talking about a compound in isolation. Quercetin from onions is phytoestrogenic but whole onion extract leads to elevation of testosterone levels in the rat, suggesting complex interplay between phytoestrogens and henceforth undetected phytoandrogens in foodstuff.

/fit/izen 04/07/18 (Sat) 23:02:56 No.136393

Will it affect my test production longterm though?

/fit/izen 04/09/18 (Mon) 00:28:42 No.136440

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Nattyfags desperate to close the gap with "cheaters".

/fit/izen 04/12/18 (Thu) 00:32:01 No.136565

>>136393

I've never seen any evidence of phytoestrogens affecting long term natural estrogen production. But I dunno how if phytoandrogens are the same.