/fit/ - Fitness, Health, Exercise, Dieting, etc

>>135463

>40lb bench press

The standard bar alone is 45 lbs. If you can't even bench the bar you're a seriously weakfag

>>135464

thats the only weight i have ;_;

>>135465

Stick to pushups

>>135466

so push ups are better then bench press in that case ?

>>135467

>40lb bench press

dat you?

http://i.imgur.com/tFtkx5c.png

>>135467

Yes, just ask in the QTDDTOT next time

>>135468

i didn't say i can only bench 40lbs,i said that all i had.

>>135463

Bench won’t build mass. Doing push ups won’t really either. Cable pulls or chest flys are the only real way to get Scooby tier ass chest.

>>135478

Tren hard

Oil well

amirite?

>>135468

Go back to Reddit, newfag.

>>135478

>chest flys

thanks for the tip, can i do it one arm at the time?

>>135509

>can i do it one arm at the time?

Yes. In fact if you want to work your core it's preferred.

>>135463

Go to a gym

>>135535

i would prefere not to.

the gyms in my country smell like death.

>>135463

For building mass, multiple sets to failure of any weight above 30-40% of maximum possible (20-40 reps to failure, depending) will be good for you. However, it's only the more significant weights, 80% or so of maximum (6-10 reps to failure, depending) and higher, that build maximum single-effort strength.

The problems with calisthenics in general are:

>once someone is reasonably strong, it's hard to get very strong, because it's harder to load to a 6-10 rep max

>again once a person gets reasonably strong, it's hard to gain mass, because if you can do 60-80 reps or more then the difficulty must be increased. this isn't as big an issue as the strength one is

>people want to do idiotic meme-tier gymnastics-based movements pistols, anything with rings, etc that have more of a skills component than a strength component, and that holds back development or leads to injury really easy to fuck up doing ring dips

>while they're pretty much low-equipment, you still need some equipment to fully work the body to potential, such as a pullup bar or a bench for reverse hypers

If you stick to basics, lunges and stepups and jumps, pushups moving to single-arm or plyo pushups, v-ups, etc., and leave the gymnastics shit behind, they can be useful for size and some strength/work capacitiy.

For OP, if regular pushups stall him out at a reasonable number of reps see above, then they're just as good for mass as a bench press would be.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/17461391.2018.1450898

http://sci-hub.la/10.1080/17461391.2018.1450898

>>135559

You are not going to succeed

>>135562

thanks for the detailed explaination.

>>135559

sounds pretty metal

Do pushups, put your 40lbs weight on your back.

Then go get a rack and some oly weights.

>>135699

Have you actually tried to put a weight on your back? It's fucking retarded, moves too much and falls easily, unless put in a backpack.

The easiest and cheapest way would be to get a resistance band.

>>135700

>unless put in a backpack

Look at you, you Italian problem solver. You do your ancestors proud when you use your fucking head and don't have to have the answers spoon fed to you.

Also Italian, but north to your obvious south.

>>135699 (checked)

Or just change up the push up to increase the difficulty.

ie put feet up

>>135562

>leave the rings behind

The rings have been used for strength exercise for hundreds of years, there's a good reason why they're still around today. Have you ever seen the size arms that gymnasts have? Straight fucking barrel arms. Generally, any barwork that you can do on on the rings generally makes it much harder. Possibly why you say you can really injure yourself while doing ring dips. Im sorry your form is so shit or so weak that you dislocate your shoulder. Getting gud on the rings is not a skill its pure strength. Pure strength because you need to stop the vibrations/wobbles/unstableness of the rings which in turn work your muscles differently. Differently from anything else like barwork and gymwork. You also say its harder to progress since you can do "60-80" reps which is true for some exercises. But then you think to yourself and have the intuition to do harder movements in whatever your progressing on. I do have to say though once you reach a certain strength level after a year or two then you will need to add weight to some exercises. Bur generally if you can add weight then you can also do the harder variations. Have you even heard of a front lever or a planche??¡ Pure strength.

All in all "gymnastics" or ringwork whatever you call it should not be left out. Always hit the muscles differently, you have to keep them on edge, gotta keep them confused.

>>135562

>>137362

>people want to do idiotic meme-tier gymnastics-based movements pistols, anything with rings, etc that have more of a skills component than a strength component, and that holds back development or leads to injury really easy to fuck up doing ring dips

We could make similar arguments about deathlifts and squats – really easy to fuck up. Doing the lifts properly is largely skill-based initially, but once you're mobile enough and know the proper technique and don't try to lift more than you're capable of lifting with good form, you're fine.

Don't be a butt.