/fit/ - Fitness, Health, Exercise, Dieting, etc

>>135095

You're %100 right, OP. I needed to hear that like you wouldn't believe.

Y-you too..

I need to get better at running and calisthenics I don't need to get big.

>>135182

Sounds about right.

Can't have an aura of intimidation or he'd be removed from the mandatory Pride parades.

>>135155

Yes exactly. Last time I tried to bulk I put on more fat than muscle from not training right and eating too much. I lasted about 6 months before I was disgusted in my fatass physique. Only put on around 10lbs of muscle but gain 7%+ bodyfat. Now i'm only going for a 300-400 calorie surplus, training in the most optimized high effort routine I've ever done, and I'm just going to stick to it for a whole year. 15-20lbs of muscle will be worth it

>>135171

What have you been struggling with anon? We should be here to motivate each other and call out blatant bullshit that would kill gainz

>>135181

He actually get it.

He's not a narcissic faggot crying all night >tfwnogf.

What is important is strengh. External beauty is pure faggotry. I can't even start to think that there is people looking at themselves everyday checking each part of their body. That's like beyond faggotry. Even a woman doesn't do that.

The goal is to be able to fuck anyone is the street. Not to start a Vlog youtube channel cultivating ego and narcissism.

When you have a good enough level in calisthenic (meaning you can do series of one arm pushup/pullup/perfect leg raise etc..), you pursue with the same exercice, but with weight. And maybe start to work either on more strengh with reactivity (to faster your punches), or endurance.

Because being "swole" will not makes that much of a difference in the street. You have to learn how to fight.

>>135187

fellow burger anon, I agree with the motivation thing, for the last trimester I've struggling to keep up with my schedule,

which would be every day of the week, and I've barely went a full week ever, so even though I working out every week its still suboptimal

but let me give you some pointers there:

> only going for a 300-400 calorie surplus

if you're below 15% bf, you still shouldn't go bulking, just should stay at your total or with a slight surplus only

the bulk/cut routine is a meme and you should avoid it, if you're over 15% though you should cut still

> most optimized high effort routine I've ever done, and I'm just going to stick to it for a whole year

there is no most optimized high anything, and you should always change your routines every 2~3 months,

even if very slightly, so you can work different muscles and avoid injury, and it also puts a different stress on it for better growth

even the small changes in the same exercises might make a world of difference

>>135376

I actually did lower my surplus to about +200-300. I appreciate your advice but being in some sort of substantial surplus is the only way ive seen people put on mass apart from no gainz beginners with considerable bodyfat. I must get big. My post was not worded the best it could. What I meant is previously I have been doing half assed low effort workouts sometimes only 2 times a week. I am actually tracking my progress and pushing for progressive overload every workout now. I also meant I am sticking to working my ass off and gaining strength/size for a year, not one specific workout routine. I was previously screwing around getting fat then cutting to 10% bodyfat while still being DYEL skell. I am cutting that shit out right now.

>>135529

>but being in some sort of substantial surplus is the only way ive seen people put on mass apart from no gainz beginners with considerable bodyfat

what do you by, "I've seen people", because honestly you can't take what people say as truth as that, unless you personally experienced it yourself

sure being on a surplus helps with keeping your energy and recovery up, but 5~10% of your calorie expenditure is enough (your +- 200 should be right)

but one needs to be realistic on how much muscle can be gained for non beginners over time, a regular workout routine, where I'm pushing it but not killing myself,

like hitting hard a muscle but only once a week, I've able to gain from 1~1.5kg per trimester, which is not much, but considering I'm already packing some, its ok

the close you get to your natty limit the harder it is,

on that topic, the workouts where I've really experienced the best gainz, are ones where you hit muscle more than once a week, like a push/pull while really pushing yourself

by the end of the trimester I've 5~6 kg gains, I'm gonna try this again next season to check for improvements,

reason is: optimal muscle growth happens when you hit the muscle soon after recovery, so third day right after previous workout,

but over periods this really takes a toll and requires resting

This is a good thread, m8. A lot of people needed to hear this. Contrasted with 4chan where it's 90% "tfw no gf" bullshit.

>>135610

Right? Or they push stuff designed to push peope down or make them negatively self concious. I think its another place where hard left peope try to blend in and shill, like on every /pol/ board. Really makes me dislike them.

Also, I am this: >>135371guy.

Still going strong. We can all make it if we try.

>>135612

Keep it up anon.

>>135097

DO YOUR BEST TENKO

>>136088

>aesthestics are most important

t. shallow shitskin

>>136088

Narrow hips are aesthetic, but it only holds downsides.

Honestly, what do I need to do if I feel completely dead inside? Right now I'm just shuffling between my few obligations at minimum effort. I enjoy nothing and look forward to nothing. I don't even enjoy vidya anymore. Life has become nothing more than the interlude between sleep. I am grateful that I can sleep because it is the only guilt free pleasure I have left. I'm tired of feeling so miserable all the time. I'm tired of being 27 and having experiencing nothing a man my age should experience. I'm tired of knowing there is an awesome world out there but all I can do is give it a blank stare. But most of all I'm just tired all the time. I've tried setting goals and the like, but my own brain just keeps beating me down. It's all in my head, but trying to tell myself that I am not a loser is like denying an objective truth. There are people who work twice as hard for half of what I have, yet all I do is roll over at the slightest inconvenience. When I was younger I remember I was stupid, but I at least had some tenacity. Now all I do is worry. Sorry for the blog post but I just don't know what to do anymore.

>>135567

It's true that it becomes more difficult, but that just means your weak links will burst more often, more quickly. You see fuckers working out like they're in Grappler Baki, and that's how it's meant to be done, but their 'physique' progress, speed progress, something progress, will fucking explode because they had to cut some corners to get to that point of endurance and strength.

If you don't cut corners, it becomes both a physical and spiritual lift, and you can make every gain as long as you push it in all 360 degrees 24/7 (diet, rest, training, supplements, social, mental, energetic, knowledge, effort, will, etc.). That's unrealistic though, so a sequential order where you still bust ass but get progress in everything you want equally and impressively is still very possible. Pure agony is the path of pure power. If you master pain, swim in that shit like a dolphin, you can eat 8000 cal whilst training 6 days a week, 3 hours a day.

Note that chinese oly lifters lift for time, with 60 - 90 sec rest times, 2.5 - 3.5 hours on average. They look DYEL as well. They eat weird herbs, teas, foods, to boost recovery to the max. "As much agony as possible" is their method. They still put 500 overhead.