>>135024
It's fair to say that some schools of thought, mostly those based on Rippetoe's training philosophies, claim a focus on a half-dozen or so major barbell lifts is probably best for beginners who are interested in pure strength training or athletic training. This period should last until they learn good form on those lifts and complete a linear progression to find some maxes for low-rep sets. This process may be as short as three months or as long as nine months, depending on the person.
On the other hand, many programs for athletics, such as BFS, will start even middle school kids on a program that includes a variety of accessory lifts from the very beginning. Of course, with an athletic program, all of the accessories are usually major compound movements anyways. On the third hand, a beginner program for Olympic Weightlifting will usually include a lot of accessories from the start, but again, most of those won't be isolation movements.
Usually your first question is asked by faggot wannabe bodybuilder types whose primary interests is "big guns" and who want to do supersets of five different types of curls from the very beginning.
For a person who is interested only in training for general health reasons, or for size and appearance, it depends. While barbells are great, very time-efficient and effective, those with lesser goals and lesser interest in learning may be able to train completely on machines, and for a size routine, machines and dumbbells alone can be reasonably effective.
Starting Strength and various ripoffs of it tend to deadlift after squatting and tend to moderate the volume of the deadlift down to a single top set to compensate for doing both on the same day. Some other programs such as BFS will deadlift on a separate day and do multiple working sets. It basically depends on the program and its layout. Nobody HAS to deadlift at all, unless they're interested in powerlifting competitions. It's a great lift but someone with non-PL goals can do without the full deadlift from the floor.
>>135052
Going for strength, then "squat/bench/military/deadlift/clean/chinups/pendlay" is a good list.
Pullups are better than chins for your rotator cuff and should be at least alternated with them, if you do only one version, then pullups are the one. Dips are good to add. If you're interested in athletic qualities, try working in some snatches or rack jerks and plyometrics.
>>135054
>muh t-rex
Bullshit on so many levels.
First off, the idea that the upper body needs to be so highly developed comes from faggots and the jews who run bodybuilding.
Secondly, it's a simple matter to just stick to the big lifts and add one or two exercises a session for the upper body, or a drop-off set or two at the end of the 5s for the upper body work. Just do 2x10 press for the last move on the bench 3x5 day and do 2xmax dips as the last move on the press 3x5 day and voila! Don't forget that Starting Strength already has you doing chins and pullups on a regular basis.
>>135068
>muh imbalances
Again, bullshit.
There are only six main body movement patterns. Horizontal and vertical upper body pulls and presses, hip hinge dominant bending, and knee bend dominant bending. The following program covers all of them and will lead to zero imbalances:
>Workout A: Squat, Bench, Row
>Workout B: Deadlift, Press, Pullups
You'll notice if you actually look at the Starting Strength program from the books that the Squat, Bench, Press, Deadlift, Clean which works most of the muscles from the row, Pullups and Chinups alternating, Glute-Ham Raise, and Back Extensions are the exercises of the program. Upper body pressing and pulling in both directions are BALANCED. Squatting every day while using a variety of posterior leg movements leads to BALANCE.
SS only appears to be "leg heavy" because LIFE and athletics is leg heavy, and because faggot jews like to see big arms as a signal to find each other, and faggot jews run not only bodybuilding but the "health and fitness" magazine industry, which started as fapping material for them.