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 No.132598

Are there any drugs that don't lead to a lazy lifestyle? I'm interested in taking away the numbness from "depression", being ok with sitting down to study or read and other things I just don't want to do. I don't want to get dependent or take something neurotoxic like adderall.

For instance my routine is lifting and going for a run every day. I never miss a day because I feel guilty. But every time I'm going into it there's dread - not even because I'm pushed too hard, just because I have severe motivation issues. My sister doesn't get it, she got me into the running. For her she kept up the running and as soon as she could run without feeling like dying she fell in love with it. I run 5km every day and that's all I felt pushed to be able to do, but I haven't in 6 months haven't taken it any further and it's as miserable to me now as it was when I started.

I guess I'm looking for an anti-depressant, but I'm not willing to go through the psychiatrist route of him only prescribing 1 drug at a time, forcing me to take it like a guinea pig. I've been on 2 ssri's (sertraline and prozac) and while I see the benefits it's not the kind of therepeutic drug I'm looking for.

 No.132600

Cannabis. It could cause anxiety in high doses so go for a low THC% strain. Try CBD oil if you can't champ through the tolerance levels.


 No.132602

>>132600

Cannabis gives me euphoria and 'tunnel vision' in memory - I'm living from moment to moment with a 2-second attention span. I'd love to smoke cannabis every day but it's just not a long term solution and the negative effects far outweigh the positives It's like sacrificing your intelligenc for bliss and complacency. Even a light opioid would be better than cannabis


 No.132605

Shrooms and psychedelics in general can have long lasting anti depressant properties and arent physically addicting nor harmful.

Shrooms/dmt/lsd/2cb/mescaline are "safe".


 No.132606

>>132598

>but I haven't in 6 months haven't taken it any further

Have you tried resting? Rest is as important as the training, especially to break plateus.


 No.132609

>>132606

But I don't get tired. It's something psychological, I get so stressed out over the responsibility of going for a run even though it's my body is used to it. Sometimes I get so stressed out I need to pee 2 or 3 times before finishing the run.


 No.132610

>Are there any drugs that don't lead to a lazy lifestyle?

Cocaine or recreational ritalin.


 No.132611

>>132610

or ket


 No.132614

If you need a drug/substance to function, you're doing it wrong.


 No.132618

>>132611

ketamine wrecks your brain

>>132610

>recreational

fuck off with your unhealthy shit

>>132614

it's could be a hopeless endeavor long-term but saying the use drugs to 'self-medicate' is wrong while fucking around with dog tranquilizers and getting high off stimulants is ok I think you're doing drugs wrong, junky.


 No.132619

>>132618

OP asked for "drugs" not medication. I'm under the impression he wants to get some kind of high.


 No.132624

>>132602

>I'd love to smoke cannabis every day but it's just not a long term solution and the negative effects far outweigh the positives It's like sacrificing your intelligence for bliss and complacency.

Been doing it almost daily for the last 5 years and I can tell you that the memory delay gets better as you pass through the tolerance thresholds. If anything it's more enjoyable to train my memory and read self-help books when I'm lit.

>Even a light opioid would be better than cannabis

That's some grade A kikery


 No.132681

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>>132598

L-theanine and maca root powder work for me.


 No.132683

>>132681

>L-theanine

Memeshit


 No.132686

>>132609

You need an anti-anxiety like vallium. Don't let them give you xanax, the half life is too short and causes addiction quick.


 No.132688

>>132686

Benzos fuck with your memory. And it's impossible to get even valium here except short term. Back when I believed my major issue was anxiety I tried to get gabapentin, pregabalin and similar lesser anxiolytics and the faggot cited some bullshit reason to put me on an SNRI (basically same thing as ssri) called Duloxetine. It was after trying that last one that I just gave up entirely on the psychiatric route.


 No.132690

>>132683

L-theanine combined with caffeine is pretty useful, but I wouldn't take it every day otherwise you'd soon build a tolerance for the caffeine and need to up the dosage indefinitely for the same effects it gave you at first.


 No.132693

>>132690

I think I'm immune to caffeine. If I don't take any caffeine in a month then take 3-4 red bulls it just makes me piss loads, I don't get jitters even. It might effect my mood and make me happier but that could be placebo because I think I'm meant to feel something.

It's probably all the coke I drank when I was a kid.


 No.132696

>>132688

I can concur, it probably does fuck with my memory. I only dose half a pill twice a week though. I can't imagine taking the dose the doc recommends, I'd probably be a total zombie. Half life of vallium is like a week, so you can stretch it if you get your hands on some.


 No.132701

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>5km every day

I walk about 6-12 miles every day. 3 miles is baby shit.

I would recommend something like meditation, or music, long before I ever recommended drugs. Marijuana is really fucking awesome. I can't attest to psychedelics.

But if you want marijuana, you need to have things in your life that you can fall back on when you start to think something isn't worth it. Like, you need a few things to keep your mind fixated on working towards. Like, a Spartan Race, grades and schooling, internships, work, cooking, learning about mechanics or something - you've already got exercise going for you, and if you've got the body to show it, then you've made a very, VERY large success in life that people commonly take for granted (in a society where luxury and commodity breed a lazy, inactive population norm).

If you have a life, with some interests and hobbies here and there, then experimenting with recreational drugs is hardly going to have a negative impact on your life when you look at it. Just try to avoid comparing yourself to other people too often, like thinking, "If I had what they had…" and "I wish I was as cool as them…". Don't sell yourself short. Have a little faith or confidence in your abilities. And drugs will have an immediate, applicable use instead of causing a long-lasting dependency to someone who just can't quite satisfy himself, and is never happy.

Recreational use is using it as a tool to enhance, alter, or tinker, etc.. Medical use is using these things for personal, biological and psychological applications. And really, for either, you need to be absolutely certain that's why you're using it. Don't go abusing psychedelics thinking that's the only way to understand the universe and yourself if you just have a problem with measuring and criticizing yourself. And don't go abusing anything for a self-prescription to something that might have a solution you just need to come to terms with rather than using drugs as a cure-all potion. It's important to be able to solve your own problems first, like washing your hands and avoiding contact with sick people instead of staying in your room and taking two allergy pills in the morning and night with cold and flu medicine. Just play it smart dude. Don't let it be a phase, and use it as a reward if you're using it recreationally, still keeping your goals in sight.


 No.132711

Caffeine, nicotine, and amphetamines I guess, but only the first one is worth it in the end. You could dive into nootropics but they're 99% snake oil and 1% expensive and easily habit- and/or tolerance-forming. There is no silver bullet for motivation, and the sooner you realize that, the sooner you take control of your habits.

>I run 5km every day and that's all I felt pushed to be able to do, but I haven't in 6 months haven't taken it any further and it's as miserable to me now as it was when I started.

That's because long distance running is shit and people who do it are crossfit-tier cultists.

>>132600

>CBD

>not leading to a lazy lifestyle

Is this April Fool's Day?


 No.132712

>>132701

>I walk about 6-12 miles every day. 3 miles is baby shit.

So do I shit-for-brains, everyone walks a lot. He said he was RUNNING it.


 No.132746

>>132712

As you can tell by my English, I must have missed that.


 No.132752

Shrooms. Get them from someone you trust or grow them yourself. It's easy and fast. Psilocybin imitates serotonin, and with a solid dose you might change your perspective on things, consciously alter your behaviors, or even feel better in some ways permanently. There have been studies done to show how shrooms can be used to (successfully) treat addiction, anxiety, and depression.


 No.132753

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I use modafinil (25mg), ephedrine (50mg), BZP (5mg), and whatever caffeine and theobromine is in black tea OP

feels productive af my man


 No.132758

>>132753

Are you memeing or serious? I have modafinil and armodafinil coming in the mail, but I've never heard of someone taking low doses of these and mixing them. Where do you even get ephedrine and BZP? Never even heard of BZP till now.


 No.132760

File: 116ac6a1a5cedc1⋯.jpg (138.37 KB, 1191x802, 1191:802, pisslord.jpg)

>>132758

I am serious as the heart attack I am putting myself at an increased risk for lol

I buy my sunpharma mod from India because their army uses it and some guy "loses" it to me; ephedrine is OTC in the U.S. so I just grab it at the pharmacy; I get my BZP from a Chinese RC lab via BTC and they send me it smuggled inside children's books.

I mix low dosages of these because they all do different things: modafinil is a wakefulness booster and mild stimulant of the peripheral nervous system via nicotinic receptors, ephedrine is a heart stimulant and increases metabolism ~5% when mixed with caffeine, the BZP is a psychostimulant and at a low dosage is a non-selective upregulator of 5HT (and dopamine but it sucks at that), so it is an analog to methylphenidate at low doses (at higher doses it emulates MDMA and has additional psychedelic effects)

I also buy LGD-4033 from a lab in California and dose 10mg of that a day, and I have gained 10lb in three weeks working out four times a week. As a selective androgenic receptor modulator, it makes all of your cells more receptive to your own T. In a clinical study, sedentary mooks taking it had the top three quartile of the research group gain 1.5Kg of muscle. It's mildly suppressive compared to real roids but I might run clomid as PCT after to push my gains even higher.

If I were a rich man I would take a stack of 5mg PPAP, 5mg IRDA-21, and 10mg F-modafinil instead of my current stack because fewer chances of heart disease, but FUCK IT WE'RE FREAKS


 No.132780

>>132760

How much Mod? I bought the 200mg pills and half gives me a weird "tired" like anxiety


 No.132926

>>132760

>stack

>SARMs at best

pick one


 No.132941

>>132926

<multiple stims together isn't a stack

reading comprehension

>>132780

>mod makes you tired

maybe not for you then

if it doesn't improve your quality of life, don't worry about it


 No.132960

>>132760

THAT GUY'S A FUCKING FREAK I SAW HIM BENCH 1200 RAW BEFORE HIS 42 CAR ACCIDENTS


 No.132961

And stop fucking with modafinil guys that shit is a rollercoaster for your brain. Amphetamines were much Kinder to me and that's saying something.


 No.132969

>>132961

that mental clarity and memory retention tho.

>>132941

I sleep enough, I get 4-5 hours at night and 2 1 hour naps during the day the feeling of exhaustion is probably due to my heartrate always being high on it




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