/fit/ - Fitness, Health, Exercise, Dieting, etc

All gay, get on a treadmill tubby.

Don't neglect lower body strength, it's gonna fall like a house of cards without any foundation.

Looking online, it seems the guy who runs the place now is alright. Not much to see about him. But the guy who trained him lied about his MA career, military experience, and now runs a McDojo. It's got me reconsidering

Do you have a muay thai gym near you? I'd take that over whatever you're looking at.

OP WATCH THE FUCK OUT! ALL THESE PLACES ARE SCAMS! they ask you for money and fees and equipement and all this shit and then they force you to learn stupid shit you don't care about and not what you came there to learn, then if you leave they fuck you with the contract they made you sign.

often times you get hurt while learning how to defend yourself, it's fucking bullshit so only go to a good class that doesn't do membership fees and lets you wear your own clothes. only trust a teacher that the students trust. if they just seem to do what they say but don't really love them, and I mean LOVE them, stay the fuck away.

>>131329

If you don't want to get huge but want to be fit then eat right and hit the pool. If you want to do martial arts for the hell of it, see if you can find any HEMA groups near you.

>>131329

concerning martial arts, if your school doesn't have sparring sessions against an unwilling opponent, it's not a martial school, it's choreography with pretty kicks school. you won't learn how to fight, you'll learn how to mimick movements. also,

>looking at improving my flexibility and upper body strength

stretch, lift and read >>131352 you faggot.

godspeed you fat fuck, i hope you make it

Styles of fighting:

http://www.ufc.com/discover/fighter/martialArtsStyles

BlackBeltWiki, great source of info, trivia and help:

http://www.blackbeltwiki.com/

Lifting for MMA:

http://breakingmuscle.com/strength-conditioning/how-to-train-strength-and-conditioning-for-mma

Beware the MCDOJOS:

http://mcdojo-faq.tripod.com

WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A MARTIAL ARTS GYM:

•Physically conditioned, fit participants

•Trainer with certified professional record and a training history with at least one athlete who competes successfully

•Sparring, "aliveness" in training

•At least one participant competes at amateur or professional level

•Physical conditioning part of training

WHAT TO BE WARY OF:

•Fat, physically subpar students and instructor

•Graduation fees (e.g. "pay $200 and advance to next belt extra quick!")

•No proven athletes training there

•No sparring, moves shown are choreographed (e.g. "the attacker does this, then I do this, then you do this…")

•Cult-like atmosphere

•No physical conditioning

>YOUTUBE CHANNELS ON FIGHTING

https://www.youtube.com/user/LawrenceKenshin

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVfmHpXONv-LVACBV68tq5Q

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvD-OHIvagiFBGfCYMgRB7A/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3zMJRgefZm7ELHkIp-xDA

https://www.youtube.com/user/GracieBreakdown

https://www.youtube.com/user/StephanKesting

https://www.youtube.com/user/CombatSportsTapes

https://www.youtube.com/user/FunkerTactical

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThePitOnlineDojo

https://www.youtube.com/user/Dinasaurs300

>>131388

Dubs confirm global nuclear holocaust

>>131490

OP here. Glad I didn't join. I was right to be skeptical.

>$195 up front and $100 each month

>2 classes a week. If I want daily classes I have to get into the instructor program, but only after six months of training and first belt; this would then be $200 a month.

>$75 belt fee for each rank.

>grandmaster runs the place and teaches, but doesn't look like he's above 40.

>Owner's teacher runs a McDojo.

>Buy our DVD to keep you in constant training! it's $30.

>Look at all the weapons we have. You can own this sword or knife for $1-25.

>Billed as a full contact fighting school, but trains children in classes separated from adults. Not abnormal to me.

Fairly convincing compared to the glorified "family fun" McDojos in the area. Looks like I'll have to travel or take up training by myself without a teacher if I don't want to fall for the bullshido.

>>131533

A good school is hard to find. Most places around me give the same $150 a month for two a week deal. My old fighting gym I was paying $125 a month for unlimited classes. I did Muay Thai and Sambo for a year before it closed. I'm lucky enough to have found my old coach from that place had rented a hole in the wall and he trains a handful of people. Only charges me $80 a month for four days. Pretty good deal for Combat Sambo.

>>131329

>Bagua, Wing-Chun, Bajiquan, Shaolin Kung-Fu, Tai Chi and others

These are all worthless wastes of time. If you just want to "get toned" then do some pullups and shit. If you want to learn a martial art do one that actually works.

Boxing, Muay Thai, Wrestling, Brazillian Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Kyokushin karate and the less common ones like Savate and Sambo are also worthwhile.

Basically do they practice full contact sparring? Is it used in MMA/Vale Tudo? If the answer is yes then it's worth doing, if the answer is no then it's worthless bullshit.

>>131329

Also if you want to learn a useful MA without having to get punched in the face a lot BJJ or Judo (BJJ is best but Judo is fine too) won't leave you with brain damage.

>>131490

>hooktube CHANNELS ON FIGHTING

https://www.hooktube.com/user/LawrenceKenshin

https://www.hooktube.com/channel/UCVfmHpXONv-LVACBV68tq5Q

https://www.hooktube.com/channel/UCvD-OHIvagiFBGfCYMgRB7A/

https://www.hooktube.com/channel/UCl3zMJRgefZm7ELHkIp-xDA

https://www.hooktube.com/user/GracieBreakdown

https://www.hooktube.com/user/StephanKesting

https://www.hooktube.com/user/CombatSportsTapes

https://www.hooktube.com/user/FunkerTactical

https://www.hooktube.com/user/ThePitOnlineDojo

https://www.hooktube.com/user/Dinasaurs300

>>131597

>get flipped the wrong way

>break neck

>but no brain damage!

>only a ton of other permanent damage

HUE HUE no thanks

>>131603

Except you can train judo or BJJ for your entire life and be completely fine. Helio Gracie was still rolling in his 80s. Breaking your spine is a freak occurrence.

Cumulative brain damage after hard sparring/matches in striking arts is a certainty. It might affect you to a greater or lesser degree but it's happening every time you get hit in the head.

Judo is called "the gentle way" precisely because you can train it long term without getting fucked up.

>>131596

Aikido?

>>131618

Aikido is absolute worst of the worst larper shit

It's one rung above those "arts" where they claim to be able to knock out out with chi blasts from across the room

A decent collegiate wrestler beats any aikido master 100% of the time

>>131618

From what my MA friends say, aikido is basically "please stop attacking me so I can perform this sick wrist lock on you." Apparently it works but it's not practical at all.

>>131388

I think the stealthy rebels like me are the ones that will make it.

Forget the grenade and rocket launchers.

Learn how to make traps, explosives, suppressors and guns.

This is what made the U.S. lose several wars in a row.

A mortar with ice in it can fire and be triangulated only to find there's no one manning it.

Going loud and proud will get you killed.

>>131329

Any school offering a blend of such disparate systems is fucking cancer.

>"toned"

>Using a term made for 1980s women's fitness magazines

>>131397 <= This anon gets it, though I'd disagree somewhat calling it a "meme". It's served me well in the two altercations I've been in.

>>131596

Calling wing chun a waste of time shows what an ignorant fuck you are.

>>131627

Having actually trained in aikido for a few years, this is stupid and your MA friend should feel bad. I will agree that aikido is a reflection of the time and place it was developed and doesn't have a lot of applicability to civilian defense today against what (trained person) you'll normally run up against (grapplers). However aikido (not ki aikido bullshit) does respect the loss of fine motor movements when the SHTF and offers devastating counterattacks. Some of the hardest hits I've taken.

Against the majority of people (untrained morons) aikido will serve you very well. Just takes much more time to get to a reasonable level versus something like wing chun, boxing, muay thai, etc.

>>131329

just do bjj faggot>>131329

>>131386

bump

>>131992

this

>>132155

>>132156

>>132154

calm down faggot

>>131533

>$100 each month

That's what I paid for a year and then I could attend any classes at the club, ended up doing judo and ju-jutsu.

>>131992

>What is best for real-life fights with rapefugees

You have to consider how these things happen:

>if someone starts taunting you, you can't just start hitting them

>first you need to try and be street smart

>IF this fails, it's most likely going to be someone grabbing you

>which means you need grappling

>the problem with this is that if you face a group of people, you can't ever start rolling around on the ground because someone else will then easily hit you in the back of the head while you're holding one guy down

>so you need to be able to quickly get out of the hold and create a distance while standing

>maybe by then someone brings out a knife

>which means your only real option is to run

>if you're cornered you have a small chance to kick the knife hand before the guy gets close

…and that's about it. Avoid groups of people, keep distance, don't provoke them. Or get a firearm or if you can't for legal reasons get mace or something, your goal is to just get out of there alive, not to stay and fight.

>>131992

Despite what it says about kickboxing being awful outside of Thailand, Germany has its good gyms. If you're close to the Netherlands, even better. A straight kickboxing rather than a MT gym works well if it's a Dutch one, too.

A little more rare are sanda gyms. There's three in Belgium and about double that in the Netherlands, I think, but they're far from the border. It's basically the same shit, coopted by the Chinese with some throws added to the mix. No groundwork, though.

How do I recuperate from the sore throat I get from being choked? Shit hurts.

>>132542

deepthroat a dick faglord

>>131329

Take Muay Thai and/or BJJ.

>>132402

I still would feel more confident, if I learned to handle people at bar fights

>>132442

Unfortunately, I'm as far away from netherlands as possible in Germany, but I will see if I can find some decent ones. Thanks

>>132000

>>131924

I approve.

>>132542

Exercise and stretch your neck religiously. Not just isolated, but in conjunction with the whole body (e.g. cobra stretch and wrestler exercises).

Strengthen your jaw; use a towel and just pull and tug or lift something.

And you know when you tense and you turn beet red? Do that for your neck; it'll improve vessel strength. Don't do it much though… maybe you'll get a blood clot and die :)

>>131344

this guy knows. Start with the fundamentals; a good diet, sleep plan and basic movements/exercises are the first step.

>>131992

There's a lot more good kickboxing gyms around in recent years so I'd move it up a bit

>>131596

>Kyokushin karate

Karate is a waste of time once you learn the basic punches and kicks, and even if you do find a good school for teaching strikes, a lot of the time the instructor will be gearing towards tournament Kumite which is "valid" for the art but absolute horseshit for practicality.

>>131490

>>YOUTUBE CHANNELS ON FIGHTING

Tossing in https://www.youtube.com/user/FightTipsVideos/videos?disable_polymer=1 as well