/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

>>129960

> Would body weight training be any good to build muscle or would it never be as good as the gym?

Depends on what your goals are.

If you want to become a new Schwarzenegger, then a gym is absolutely required.

If you just want to get fit, and be better looking and stronger than the average, then yes, you can.

For the lower body? Run.

For the upper body? Do pushups, chinups (a bar is cheap, around 10 bucks), tricep dips, and buy a cheap barbell from Decathlon if you want to focus on the bicep doing curls.

Eat ruminant liver 1-2 week for vitamins or else veganism will deprive your gains. Deer live wild and free, so maybe you wouldn't feel bad about eating their livers? Get in touch with a local hunting club. Some grilled/boiled shrimp here and there can also do a world of good. Milk is among the best protein supplements, and fat free milk is a useful option if concerned about gaining fat. Do pull ups/dips on olympic rings or parallel bars/pull up bar You can probably improvise something even if it means pull ups on a tree branch and dips on the corner of a railing. for upper body and sprints for lower body.

>>129961

>If you want to become a new Schwarzenegger, then a gym is absolutely required.

Thanks lad. But the niggers look really ripped after doing calisthincs or whatever its called. How do they do it? Also what do you suggest for my diet? I've quit all of sugar addictions, completely free of that and fried food as well, although I do admit I occasional eat a bag of chips though its at the most once a month. And I've started nofap as well. Just need to know how to maneuver a good diet for myself. Also do the pull up bars damage the doors or the wall? I don't want to get in trouble with my landlord.

>>129962

>Eat ruminant liver 1-2 week for vitamins or else veganism will deprive your gains. Deer live wild and free, so maybe you wouldn't feel bad about eating their livers? Get in touch with a local hunting club. Some grilled/boiled shrimp here and there can also do a world of good. Milk is among the best protein supplements, and fat free milk is a useful option if concerned about gaining fat.

I'm sorry but I couldn't live with myself, plus no deers where I live I think. Also any book recommendations?

>>129963

The liver is even tastier when you smother it in honey collected by the exploitation and suffering of hard working bees.

>>129960

>bear eating meat

Like vid related? You meant, "bare".

>vegan because you worked in an animal shelter

What? What do abused and neglected pets have to do with livestock? Just eat the following:

>grass-fed, ideally 100% grass-fed bovine/lamb products

>milk should be raw

>pasture-raised poultry, or better yet wild turkey or your own backyard chickens/eggs

>heritage pork

>wild-caught seafood

The animals suffer less than in factory farms. And if you get them hunted or fished from the wild, they suffer no more (or even less) than they would when eaten by their non-human predators. Nature is brutal, you need to grow some balls lad. I love animals too but you have to eat meat in order to be healthy, and certainly to be muscular. At the very least, convince yourself to eat canned sardines or something, you need to eat some animal tissue for protein.

>bodyweight

It's much better than nothing and you can achieve some level of fitness with it, but you will reach a low plateau, and will never get 'big' or particularly strong. If that's truly all you can afford, go for it, but you have much more potential with heavy resistance training. Lots of gyms offer a free week, so you can bounce from gym to gym for a few weeks, until you run out of gyms.

>>129966

>you meant "bare"

nvm, I'm the stupid

>>129966

Not all college students care THAT much about how the dead animals feel.

I need the nutrients, and I can make it taste great, so whatever. That extra care is expensive. Worth it, maybe, if you have the money. But if not? We have no fucking choice. Besides, most of that shit gets thrown away anyway, even before its expiration dates. At least we're not wasting that mistreated animal meat. If I had the money I'd hunt my own meat, plant my own veggies, and buy local. But I'm poor, like a lot of others.

Just fucking fix the poor processing conditions would you? But those conditions won't be fixed for a long time because it makes people money on both sides. If we could have higher quality meat at a low cost without worrying about poor standards, then it's a win-win for everybody but those who never have enough. For now it's just the fortunate making a profit off the middle-class and gullible poor who think it really matters because people like you have honey on your lips with cure-all home remedies to raise green tea, ginseng, and honey sales. Pretending like animal rights matters anymore than your profits and the public. Dude, come on.

>>129965

Thank you anon especially for the pic

>>129966

>>129968

I don't want to derail this thread into a pro vegan one, I can understand your choices, but this is mine.

I did some basic searching on amazon and apparently vegan fitness is a thing, who knew, and they have some apparently good cheap pull up bars too, well I might just get /fit/ after all.

>>129963

>But the niggers look really ripped after doing calisthincs

Those ghetto niggers are also juiced.

>Also what do you suggest for my diet?

Eat plenty of food. I only eat rice as well, but you seem to lack a decent source of protein.

Can you eat eggs? If you can, do. They are cheap and healthy.

Besides that, diet is a meme. As long as you feel okay, then the diet is good enough.

>Also do the pull up bars damage the doors or the wall?

If the bar is well padded it shouldn't.

But in Burgerland houses are made of cardboard, so I can't say for sure.

>>129968

I only presented it as "muh animal suffering" because that's the OP's complaint, the food quality attributes I specified are very important for the healthfulness of the food as well

>>129975

can you eat least eat eggs you little faggot? they lay them anyway

>>129976

>diet is a meme

nooo

>>129980

>I only presented it as "muh animal suffering" because that's the OP's complain

Holy shit, OP, >>129960 you fucking homo. Quit complaining and eat your god damn food.

>>129980

>nooo

Yes it is.

Just take inspiration from a Mediterranean diet and you won't be having any issues.

>>129975

Simnett nutrition is a guy I've watched on youtube he's vegan and pretty /fit/. Also Brian Turner, and Jon Venus. When your money situation gets better do smoothies and oats are super cheap, I fill a giant bag in the bulk section and it's always just under 2 dollars. Organic too. I recommend chia seeds and hemp as well. Something like p90x could be a start, sounds like you want something body weight or calisthenics style if you get a pull up bar you're in business. As for one comment I read on calisthenics people being juiced i'd doubt that, don't mind the haters you can do whatever you put your mind to. Prove em wrong mang. Been researching myself a lot about plant foods and how it modifies gene expression and dna practically real time, might actually be something to the fitness community using broccoli all the time etc. They've been curing cognitive disorders and repairing dna damage with it. Get in those vegetables man and eat clean and your gut biome and entire biochemistry should start to get in check. At any rate tho I might throw something else on here in the morning I gotta get to bed. good luck man

If you want to beome a powerlifter, you'll need to go to the gym. If you want to look like Big Rami, you'll probably need a gym, too. If you just want to look muscular/jacked, you'll do fine with just bodyweight, bands, etc.

Also anon remember to take a zinc and iron supplement since you are avoiding meat. The whole "vegans don't eat enough protein" meme isn't really true, but it is very hard to get certain daily micronutrients. Which is why vegans are usually thought of as being skinny, and low test. Test helps burn fat and build muscle. Don't become a walking soyboy.

>>130041

>iron supplement

You have to fuck up very badly to be deficient in iron, and too much iron is probably much worse than a slight scarcity. Iron tends to accumulate with aging, especially in men, where it contributes to degenerative diseases, and there are countless vegan foods that supply it. He'd most likely be better off with cocoa powder, for example, which supplies both copper (important in conjunction with iron) and zinc with a bunch of other useful minerals such as magnesium.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/sweets/5471/2

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3690345/

>>130049

This is strange because according to chinese 5 elements and medical system, once a person becomes an adult they enter the "Metal" phase of their life until they're old and decrepit, which is the "Water" phase. Metal is associated with Fall and degenerative disorders, as part of an extension of its characteristic need for structure, cleanliness (what is essential vs deadweight), and other OCD shit. As well, it's considered "conductive" as it conducts different EM without being affected by it. It's also associated with Action (tool/machine) and Potential (raw ore). It's funny that every single substance you name is a metal.

It's my belief that spiritual practices are responsible for more advanced biochemistry and tissue synthesis, so OP use this >>130043 book. It'll boost your shit.

As for food, you need to eat onions, garlic, ginger, turmeric, and make spice/herb teas every morning and night. Spicy and strong in the morning, cool mild herbs at night. Onion and garlic is essential. Being around as dense of forestry you can and under as much sunlight as possible each day will keep your biology and mind optimal. Reading will keep your mind from being frog-tier bullshit and less depressed, so read... and WRITE every single day, hopefully outside in a sunny forest. Grow a mini rain forest in your home to keep yourself mentally sane and growing, rather than mired in your own pity.

Use the program >>130045 here if you decide to use weights. Otherwise, go with a gymnastics program and get some rings. You'll have to install some hardware into a stud in the ceiling. Body weight is fine but after 25 reps you'll want a weight vest. Without it, you just have to make it more difficult in new ways such as using jumping/explosive variations or an ultra-slow variation.

>>130054

>once a person becomes an adult they enter the "Metal" phase of their life

Which is why the prophecy foretold I would be so edgy compared to you plebs.

>>130041

>zinc and iron supplement

Aren't vegans mostly deficient in Vitamin B complex and creatine?

>>130076

You can find some in the oriental section of food libraries, where you would find sushi ingredients?

It's probably not enough to satisfy your hunger, though it is seaweed.

>>130064

They're deficient in testosterone and brain cells

>>130076

JUST EAT MEAT YOU FAGGOT

>>130076

If you can do dry seaweed, they make little papers of seaweed you eat like chips.

>>130240

Not seeing anything in the pastebin about legumes being bad.

Have I been screwing myself over by putting black/lima beans in my meals? I thought they would be good filler for appetite.

>>129960

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>>130240

That's a pretty awesome infographic, but why the fuck no carbs? Are they stupid? Potatoes, white rice, oats, and 100% whole grain wheat are fine. You need carbs, where else are you going to get your energy from?

>>130065

>thinking your body actually absorbs the full amount in a supplement that says "100%" or "300%" of x vitamin

>>130277

The problem isn't so much that an amount goes over 100% in a food or supplement, but rather that the usefulness of certain nutrients is heavily dependent on the availability of other specific substances, and their ideal metabolism can become rate limited. The 100% figure is just a figure invented by the FDA for an average person, but everybody needs different quantities of different nutrients. Some vitamins and minerals are stored for extended periods of time, but excess B vitamins tend to be safely wasted in urine. However, supraphysiological doses of particular B vitamins, such as B1 (thiamine) and B3 (in the niacinamide form), can be very helpful to a surprising number of people, both healthy and sick (potentially life saving in cancer and diabetes), especially if spread out in small fractions over the course of the day.

>>130279

Interesting post, but my point was that I'm skeptical that the body is capable of absorbing supplements taken in the form of a rock. I still take a multivitamin but I don't know what health benefits it actually has, if any.

>>130279

>>130283

Some vitamins require other vitamins to be taken at the same time for optimal uptake, as well as other processess normally included when eating real food, which is why a lot of the supplements just pass through you unless you fulfill those conditions. It's not easy to emulate real food.

for all the vegans in this thread

there is no need of animal protein, eat legumes, grains, leafy greens and faux meat and you will be ok

i am not vegan because i'm unemployed. most of the other sources of protein are cheaper than meat

>>130240

>They're no good. None of them.

source?

Hi.

If you only do push ups, you will never build a strong chest. But what if you do one-armed push ups and assist with your other hand/do them on an incline? You're gonna get jacked as fuck. I recommend one-armed pike push ups with your feet on a chair to replace OHP, one-armed push ups to replace bench, and ab wheel rollouts as the single best ab exercise (10 negatives and it hurts when I sneeze the next day I don't know how it's legal to get that much reward for so little effort). Then we also have the chin-ups, dips, L-sits, deep step-ups, pistol/shrimp squats. And an exercise can go a long way - fill up a backpack and wear it, decrease the speed of your exercise, and increase the reps. Sprinting also works for working out lower body.

>>130637

OP here, Thank you.

> ab wheel rollouts as the single best ab exercise

Is there a substitute/replacement for a guy without the wheel? It appears to be pretty cheap so I might get one anyway. BTW do you have any good book recommendations? Usually I've come across Overcoming gravity and Convict conditioning, any others?

>>129965

>Asian markets

>immigrant stores

eczema is these dust mite creatures, all animals have them, all people, they right well feed off a diet of rice. Rice today is a very badly engineered crop, avoid unfortunately. Maybe one day god returns and fixes rice to be good again.

Epsom baths, essential oils in your water, distiled water. On low income and unknown parasites in our bodies, low budget for food, glyphosate foods, energy is key and scarce it seems, idk. hot yoga is good

these days its a scarce eating on raw and medium boiled or steamd veggies

You can get heaps of second hand exercise gear and weights at recycle stores. A lot of time people are giving away machines just to get rid of them after they failed at their new years resolution, I got a fairly new treadmill for free not long ago.

>>129960

You have to find a balance between reasonable animal welfare and health.

Buy free range eggs, it doesn't cost a lot but then you are supporting better lives for some chickens. Excellent protein source.

Eat more vegetables, make it half your plate of food, not just a bit on the side. Dark green, carrots, and so on.

Mushrooms, eat a lot of these, different types if you can find them. Good protein and minerals.

Nuts and seeds, walnuts and almonds are good, for protein and healthy fats.

Eat wild, or brown rice if you can. A lot more goodness in them.

Find other gluten free cereals and add those regularly.

Clean vacuum your whole place, wash your bedsheets weekly in non-biological washing powder, don't use too much as it irritates the skin.

Better if it is unscented.

Don't use soap, find a natural or gentle cleanser, soap dries your skin and worsens eczema.

Vitamin and mineral supplements:

vitamin C, vitamin D3, vitamin B complex including B12, very important. zinc, magnesium.

B vitamins are what vegans tend to lack. Make sure you have at least those.

Can you eat potatos? If so, alternate those with rice.

>>129960

read how to do a good quality pushup, then do those.

work your way up to 50, in sets of 5 or 10.

squats even without weights are good, as is stair climbing. do 10-20 flights of stairs a day and you'll see improvement.

body weight exercises will give you a very strong core, don't underestimate them.

if you need more after a few months of doing it every day, then buy a set of dumbbells, second hand is fine. They should cost very little, as in £30, less if second hand.

keep exercises simple and regular, a gym isn't necessary.

>>130276

Fat

>>130240

>potatoes and rice

>not the base of your diet

BLYAT

Get the fuck outta here.