/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

>>125708

i think its the hormones in chicken

>>125708

mad cow disease

>>125721

mcdonalds

>>125732

Yeah I think it's not just America, they're just the richest so it hit them the hardest at first. Humans except communists have simply beaten nature as far as cheap food production goes yet we still have shit like gorging instincts which is obviously unfortunate.

The misinformation about health (which is literally a business for many) is also a big problem. Every fatass thinks they 'know' how to be healthy because they read a magazine or clickbait article; it drives me insane.

>1000000mg

Way off

>>125939

>they're just the richest

Has nothing to do with money, even China is facing an obesity crisis. You are just the first because you are the country that pumps out the most junk. The other countrys are catching up because all the junk is being sold in those countries too. For example 10 years ago no one ever heard about oreos, today we have about 10 different flavours of that stuff (even in my small town supermarket). Same with every other junk and soda you guys produce.

Furthermore young people don't learn how to cook anymore so they basically live on frozen meals and we all know how "healthy" they are.

>>125945

I have a question:

are the fattest countries, the ones who get the least breaks from work during their jobs?

>>125945

>>125990

From what I heard Vietnam has an obesity epidimic caused by fast food, and they're still a poor commie country.

>>126000

>It doesn't add up and it's unclear how you'd even quantify that.

Just leave your country for once in a while and go into a random supermarket except for commie countries. You will see endless shelfs of Murican junk food and soda. I really don't know what else you'd need to see that there is a huge export from your country.

>There is, however a strong correlation between wealth and obesity

Funny because your picture clearly shows that it has nothing to do with money. Or are you now going to tell me that Brasil is richer than Norway, Sweden, Finnland and France?

>According to what you said Mexico and Egypt are one of the richest countries in the world

>>125990

I'd say the opposite, the more breaks the fatter the people are. But that's just a guess.

>>126000

One of the things you should never forget when comparing the US to Europe and other first world nations is demographics.

Cultural differences, population distribution, government policy and other factors certainly contribute but they are likely dwarfed by the inescapable fact that we have ~100 million niggers, spics and assorted mystery meats dragging down the general population.

If you look only at the white US population the numbers are probably similar to Canada or Germany.

>>127225

>doesn't know Europe and Canada is just as infested with poc

There are niggers in skyrim too.

>>127228

Even with the recent influx of rape monkeys most european countries are still like 95% white compared to the US where we're down to 70-60%

>>127232

try 40-50%

The 2010 census doesnt do much to differentiate between whites and hispanics. 2020 will have a lot more racial boxes to check and will likely reveal that whites are 30-35% of the countries population is my guess.

1: Increased laziness due to addictions to sedentary pleasures such as television, movies, and video games.

2: Increased loss of any real purpose to life and the majority suffering from depression regularly.

3: Increased tolerance toward seeing fat people due to how numerous they have become.

4: Junk food is more often cheaper than healthy alternatives. Vegans and faggots also poison the well of being healthy by attaching their retarded values to it.

5: Purposeful misinformation from government bodies and regulations tailored to favor an overweight unhealthy population. A miserable citizenry that is too out of shape to try fighting back is favorable to those in power. Purposeful obscuration of fat loss being a calorie deficit. Instead of revealing to most of the population of fat people (who are often miserable with themselves, try to lose weight a couple of times and then give up due to poor "official information") that calories are what to watch specifically, they are told to avoid certain fats, certain amounts of fat (such as eating low or no fat food that uses harmful substitutes in place of healthy fat, certain protein (such as from meat), and in general eating calorie rich but otherwise empty "food".

6: Purposeful misinformation, even filtered down to communities such as this, that load down the process of turning fat into fit. Such as encouraging or demanding that certain exercises are required, that they must be preformed in specific sets at specific intervals in order to achieve results. Note this is not referring to proven muscle building routines, but mainly on weight loss.

7: A two fold scheme which is one to increase the display of thin no or low muscle celebrities as the ideal and two increase in support for fat being some genetic anomaly which further emphasises the difference between the new ideal represented by celebrities and the low born masses. Fat people will more easily accept their fat as an inevitable part of who they are due to this even if they feel like shit and wish (often secretly, to avoid thinking on their own shame) that they were thin.

All of these lead to a lack in the required motivation to lose a good deal of weight and in worse cases a psychological dependence on the things that keep a fat person fat and out of shape.

No making fun of fat people threads do nothing to motivate most fat people, but it isn't like you care. Even if you did care none of you could make a dent in the problem at more than a local level.

t. former fat guy

>chemicals and processed shit

High sugar and starchy foods are more accessible and taste better. Go to Wal-mart and that's the first and last thing you see. Even the flour that makes up the carbs we eat is overly processed. And most of all, the shit is everywhere. Sugars are addictive and become something most people can't break from.

>tradition of poor eating habits

It takes a lot of effort to break from the foods most of us in the US grew up on. Most people refuse to eat salad and encourage the mentality. Foods kids eat turns into "comfort" food as they grow up. Thus as most kids grew up on chips and sweets, they fall back on that during stressful times. Also these foods are staples in the American diet - such as fries, burgers, etc. Most people don't take the time to cook. People who don't cook often think it takes a lot of time to prepare food, and thus never develop the experience of fast cooking.

>food and habits create class distinction

It's true. Lower income families and people of certain states, cities or cultures associate what should be normal life habits as "bougie" upper class Hollywood stuff. They don't think that this type of thing is for them and are complacent with the life they live.

>transportation differences create less physical exercise

The biggest difference between US and a lot of other countries is the fact that we have such expansive lands that most people can't get around without a car or bus. There are urban cities that do require more walking, but again, we have cars.

I've visited other countries and much more walking is involved. These people don't even have to exercise to stay lean.

>increased acceptance of fatter bodies

Ex-fat myself. I'd be considered fat in some countries, but here, I'm slightly below that in this country. Advertisers capitalize in selling to the norm now, and thus more fat acceptance. In general, since it's much harder to get a whole country to change, might as well change the way they market.

>full time office jobs

Add it up and a full time job means taking away 10 hours of your day. That leaves only enough hours to get something to eat and having some personal time before you roll into bed. Most people do not want to use their precious time working out or sorting out their lives for something healthier.

>>127359

>Purposeful misinformation

>making fun of fat people threads do nothing to motivate most fat people

Truth.

Sure you can get someone to admit that he's fat. But his next question will be, "wtf do I do about it?" If you can't answer that, then what is the point? Most people don't have access to the right information and will get lead straight into failure.

When I started losing weight, I had the perfect conditions which most people don't have. That being: having good information, a lot of time, no stressful factors, and access to the right kinds of foods. inb4 making excuses for everyone else, it is extremely hard turning around your entire life. And the amount of disinformation out there will leave most people feeling hopeless. Then all these fucks with money wants to make some bucks instead of helping the obese by selling shit that doesn't work. Even when obese people find the right information, most will get discouraged and quit after they cheat on their diets or workout routines.

The whole drill-sergeant talk about not giving up and being a hard-ass is only part of the picture. Weight loss has become memed into something terrifying and extreme like you see in the Biggest Loser. Because nobody wants to understand that getting fit is a slow and grueling process that takes a mixture of extreme masochism and endless self-coaching - over a long period of time that creates lasting results.

I could go on and on, but I don't even know who this would benefit.

>>125990

Not really. People in Switzerland work more than people in France on average.

(I'm french myself)

And the Swiss are leaner on average.

About the American case I think you guys gave a major issue in your portions sizes.

I mean 3 kg is a normal weight for a baby. Not for a burrito.

>>127485

That's like, more than $100

>>127219

What's wrong with tinned fruit? I like to buy it (in juice, not syrup, of course) because I can eat it at my leisure, without it going off.

Salt, sugar, and female hormones.

It's not rocket science.

Our poor people and dumb people have high access to extremely unhealthy foods but poor access to knowledge about nutrition.

>>131031

But most people are deficient in sodium and with it, salt, anon. Salt is nothing but a good thing, anyway.

>>131059

I don't know where you got that, it's a flawed statistic. We evolved to consume 800mg of sodium and 10,000mg of potassium per day, we currently consume 3500mg of sodium and 3000mg of potassium. We can tolerate above 2000mg of sodium, but this isn't beneficial unless you're sweating or urinating a lot. Basically the average intake in the west is almost the exact opposite of what it should be.

Going beyond the obvious issue of fructose and excessive carbs:

Unfermented soy (which is in so many foods) and milk (BCM7) has hormone disruptors in it.

Goat or sheep's milk is a good substitute, albeit more expensive.

Anything with soy oil can usually be outright replaced with EVOO.

Example: Noodles with olive oil and salt instead of noodles with fake Alfredo.

Indole-3-Carbinol will also help remove excess estrogen, especially the synthetic crap.

That's cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower.

I just eat cabbage or cauliflower in its whole, uncooked form. It's surprisingly filling.

The thiols in garlic gets rid of heavy metals.

Basically, America has a lot of fake foods and you need to know a little biochem to stay healthy.

But the general rule of thumb is, the simpler the ingredients list, the better.

Eat a raw head of cabbage instead of a bag Cheetos.

>>127476

>full time office jobs

Also sleep deprivation makes you eat more and workout less.

Most of America has serious sleep deprivation.

Staring at monitors at night doesn't help any.

>>125708

I'd like to see the statistical breakdown of obesity by race in America. Bonus points if they don't group "Hispanics" with Ethnic Europeans.

>>125708

high fructose corn syrup, empty gmo carbs, dehydration and comfort

>>131032

>poor access to knowledge about nutrition

I'm not so sure that's actually what's going on. Nutrition and physical education have been a part of American public school systems for years, and even required by law since the mid-90's. We're probably going to see more fit-conscious generations (Millennials and Gen z) in the coming years thanks to that; we just have to hope that those generations have enough discipline to put that knowledge to good use. Other than that, older generations have the ability to look up nutrition information online and better themselves. This may sound like wishful thinking, but many boomers have health-insurance incentives that offer savings to those who meet certain wellness criteria. However, I think most of the older generations will continue to chase fad diets and probably won't choose to better themselves through actual effort. The information is out there and easily accessible, we just live in a society where people aren't pushed (internally or externally) to maintain healthy lifestyles.

>>125716

I think it's a simple matter of eating more than you require.

Eating processed food that contains: Empty carbs/high fructose corn syrup + processed seed oils (corn, soy, cottonseed oils) = fatty liver (Normal fag Mexicans and Americans eat this type of crap everyday mindlessly and thus both have similar very high obesity rates)

Sitting all day and no regular resistance exercise = poor insulin sensitivity = high fat storage and poor glucose metabolism.

All the (((toxins))) in our food.

<Soy

<Corn

<Corn syrup

>It makes the food cheaper and """""""tastier"""""""

>Most burgers will buy shitty processed food if it means they can save a buck.

Medicine seems to be developing psychiatric models of obesity. Like any recreational drug, food stimulates the brain's reward system and can pervert it, causing addiction, food seeking behavior, cravings, compulsions to eat, withdrawal symptoms. Doctors use psychotropic medicines like bupropion + naltrexone to reduce food craving.

There's a health program where I live where fat people go to AA style meetings and a lot of them actually make progress in losing weight. The trouble is the program ends after some time and enrolls new participants; the original group mostly reverts to its original state. I think it would be more effective if it continued on indefinitely.

>>131023

Canned fruits -> added sugar, syrup

>>131269

The question is WHY?

>>125730

During the weekend people stay up later then on the weekday come Monday they become tired because their circadian rhythm hasn't re-adjusted from sleeping at 3am to whatever to sleeping at 10pm waking up at 5am and cycle repeats.

>>131359

for

>>131210

>>125945

>frozen meals

A convenient scapegoat.

Even without them you're going to get fat. Sugar in everything. Then you have the "fat is bad, eat more carbs" meme, and it's no fucking surprise people are fat. I'm looking into nutrition and it's a clusterfuck, oh sure you can simply say avoid X. But there are so many ingredients in basic things, you need to identify and how they effect you, and possibly effect obsorbtion/production of other things. Add stress and long hours and this is why people will only get fatter.

Personally I think we should stop resisting. Stop trying to fix things. As long as you are healthy who cares?

>it's bad for society

Casual sex is creating disease resistant superbugs. Our health systems are already going to collapse. Just enjoy the contrast, you may look good now. You will look far better when surrounded by ham planets. A lone star, shining brightly in the night.

The simple fact is most people don't care, so the problem can't be avoided.

>>131269

define exactly what you require. and when you tell me x amount of calories, i want you to eat that amount in nothing but mayonnaise and tell me with a straight face that it's just a matter of calories

Id chalk it up to ignorance honestly. I come from a pretty fat family and didnt know any better, until i took a foods and health class in high school. You'd be surpriser how little people know about what their bodys need and what theyre taking in. Though some people know and just dont care.

>>131301

I saw a fat documentary that treated obesity in the same light as alcoholism or porn addiction, the problem is for fat people is that they have to eat food literally every day of their lives. You can isolate yourself from alcohol and to a lesser extent ecotourism, but you can't do that with food. Having a food addiction means every single day is a battle just walking into your kitchen, and it doesn't help that counties like the US the cheapest food is also the worst for you while healthy food is becoming culturally gentrified.

>>131398

Well yeah, eating 2000 kCal of mayonaise daily won't make you significantly fatter than a balanced diet. Of course your body is way more healthier with a balanced diet, but as far as obesity goes, you can't get fat if you burn the same energy as you take in.

Maybe your body works more efficient if fats are combined with vegetables while taking them in, but aside of that it is bullshit thinking that just eating unealthy shit alone makes you fat. It's eating too much unhealthy shit.

>>125732

>only one kilogram fits in that