/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

>So what are some cheap fats that are not laced with hormones?

Butter, avocados, olive oil, cheese, heavy cream.

I eat keto. I buy conventional meat and am doing just fine. It slays appetite. I wouldn't worry about the hormones too much. You gotta piss with the cock you got. I eat super cheap on keto, but I eat less protein than most. I usually just eat 1 2000 Calorie meal a day. I'll have a nice greasy hamburger, some green vegetables like broccoli or brussels sprouts or spinach, and a cup of coffee with a stick of butter in it. That shit keeps me going for days.

>>115620

How do you have a hamburger without buns? You mean a hamburger patty on a plate?

>laced with hormones

What are you going on about?

>>115627

At that point it's more accurate to call it a hamburg steak.

I hope you're not a commie, I don't want to hand out advice to enemies.:

Green vegetables are your friend

Red/Orange vegetables are ok in moderation (sugar)

I eat lots of Meat, Eggs, Full fat diary, nuts.

I drink lots of diet soda, it doesn't mess with my ketosis in any way.

Mixing vanilla flavoured sucralose/stevia with mascarpone and coffe will make a pretty good keto tirami su.

You don't need to buy MCT oil.

Keto Pajeet is a cool guy (embedded video).

A fiber supplement is a good idea, as is magnesium and "No Salt"-Salt.

Magic Keto pretzels are a recipe worth trying:

http://www.mytootiefoodie.com/magic-low-carb-soft-pretzels/

>>115653

You don't have to worry about that information falling into the wrong hands. Commies can't find food to eat anyway.

>>115627

Sometimes. Sometimes I use lettuce leaves. Sometimes I get fancy and bake keto 'bread' to use as buns. I try not to use keto replacements for starches too much. I try to just use foods that are already inherently keto.

I should be sleeping, but instead I'm up right now because I puke in my mouth every 30 minutes, because I ate some really fat meat sauce for dinner. I may not be able to eat regular-fat tacos anymore. High fat diets would be a nightmare.

>>115653

>commies

>self-improvement

pick one and only one. If you think this is just a meme go and visit /leftypol/. They instantly get mad and say it's a /pol/ idea if someone suggests to become /fit/. So fucking funny.

>>115673

Poltics is stupid.

You could just as easily argue that rightwingers won't get fit, because they think the state and the cops should handle all their problems for them.

When was the last time that politics directly influenced your non-Swedish life?

Crom laughs at your "politics".

>>115681

Lol, the SJW is strong with this one. :)

Turns out I wasn't eating a high carb diet, since I fucked up my serving sizes of ranch. So I would bet, around 40% of my daily intake was fat.

Now how do you guys get a lot of your micro nutrients? Since I can't think of any fatty foods that are enriched.

>>115651

Estrogen in dairy

>>115685

>estrogen in your dairy

Must suck being an amerifat.

>>115695

Its mostly fear mongering. There are some studies saying milk from pregnant cows can affect your hormone levels, but its not much of a real issue. Taking normal sex hormones orally destroys them, with the exception of some synthetic hormones designed to withstand first pass metabolism.

>>115685

>Now how do you guys get a lot of your micro nutrients?

You can still eat vegetables on keto, not to mention meat has micronutrients. Organ meats have even more. Liver has some of the highest micronutrient content of any food.

>>115693

1. Can you lift video games?

2. Did they really come for your video games? The last time I checked Hatred was still on Steam. The only known case is some volley ball developer who decided on their own to just be Japanese, shooting itself in the foot. You also had some really wonky Assassin's Creed game, before the industry learned that that didn't really worked. …and also you guys learned not to trust review sites, and learned to think for yourselves. That would be an improvement.

…but ultimately, see 1. You can not lift video games. We are the cockroaches of the world: No matter what happens, we will still be here, lifting.

Why not just carb cycle and eat a lot of fat on your off days? I tried keto three times and between feeling like shit both times as well as the infamous keto rash, I'd rather eat a bullet then do keto again.

>>115706

>Did they really come for your video games?

I know you're a pro troll but seriously? Every major developer/publisher is terminally infected with SJWs. Even the japanese ones now, except a couple stalwart heroes. You can't play a game without it beating you over the head with "progressive" values.

>>115721

>Every major developer/publisher is terminally infected with SJWs. Even the japanese ones now, except a couple stalwart heroes.

I haven't noticed. I've been busy lifting.

>You can't play a game without it beating you over the head with "progressive" values.

So DON'T PLAY those games then.

When I hate a game, a game series, and even a game developer, I just don't buy their games.

…these little SJW shits, they're not a majority, so whatever game company focuses on NOT pandering to them, will win through natural selection. It's that simple.

…and even a cancer wins, like with the Final Fantasy series, there will always be another game developer ready to pander to YOU.

However, there is a bigger picture here, in that you can't lift games.

Games only SIMULATE gains. Once you turn off your game, your gains will disappear.

…so the #1 solution, will always be to not play games AT ALL.

Conan did not sit down and play Conan Exiles, because then the movie would have ended him being stuck on the Tree of Woe.

Games are nothing but sophisticated traps. Be GLAD if they focus on trapping SJWs in little virtual bullshit worlds. More SJW games!

Does high-protein mess with Keto diet?

>>115723

That's actually a good point, I mostly only play Total War now cause I really idolize Caesar but only one or two battles a session but I get what you mean. I just hope I would still have my niche games untainted by SJW propaganda whenever I need.

>>115724

Stick to the recommended range for athletes (1.4-1.7g/kg of bw) and you'll be fine.

>>115724

Yes as your body will convert excess protein into glucose through Gluconeogenesis.

>>115743

I can't eat 160 grams of protein a day? If I were to go on a diet it would look like 120 grams of fat, 162 grams of protein, and 30 grams of carbs. I have ~170 pounds of lean muscle mass, would the protein still be too much?

>>115752

I'm too lazy to add up your macros, but on a ketogenic your calories should be 70% fat, 25% protein, and 5% carbs. Again you'd be better off doing low carb or carb cycling.

>>115754

That's more than enough protein for you.

Seriously its not that hard, just eat 1 gram of protein and half of gram of fat per bodyweight, with the rest being carbs.

Is this faggit legit?

>>115841

Never trust a vegan.

…although, feeding yourself fat, that your body hasn't produced naturally because of a need, that's asking for trouble.

I'm on a high protein diet (high lean chicken/fish/egg) instead, and I feel fine.

>>115620

>coffee with a stick of butter in it

The fuck

>>115843

It's called "Bulletproof Coffee" and believe me, it's the best shit when you are on keto.

I did keto for about 6 months, fun experience, lost a tremendous amount of weight, but looking back on it, I see the pictures I took and think to myself "How the fuck do you lose weight eating this shit?"

This thread is making me want to do it again.

>try keto

>feel without energy and empty

>try vegan

>feel without energy and empty

Guess I was made for complete diets.

>>115723

So then, what are the best games for gains? 5D chess?

>>115898

Besides sports, the only game is the gym game. It's a game where you go to the gym, and play around with the machines there. You get points in the form of gains, and the biggest guy in the gym, is the final boss. (His name is Julian and he has 5 000 HP and is a level 15 Instagram Warrior. I think he's weak to Earth magic.)

>>115854

Damnit. Now you got me craving pickle tuna, but I'm out of cals for the day. I'm out of pickles, too. Fug

>>115921

my man, next time you make it, add a little lemon pepper to the tuna mix. You'll be hooked up like a tow truck.

Speaking of keto and sugar, lemme ask you this

I am not going full keto, I have a question though

If I want to slowly remove most of the sugar from my diet, would eating a tangerine/orange and consuming some teaspoon of honey a day be considered cheating or what?

>>115925

What do you intend on getting out of it my hairy friend? Remember that it's the dose that makes the poison.

>>116023

I will let you that I am by no means hairy, other than a full head of hair I bairly grow facial hair or body hair

That out of the way, I want to take out most of the sugar because according to /fit/ processed sugars are the devil and should be avoided by all means, they will give me all kinds of diseases from basic inflamation to cancer and will make me a miserable addict

So I want to avoid them, except for something sweet on the weekends

I'm starting Keto and am supposed to have 2 cups of veggies at lunch and dinner. What do you faggots do for veggies? At lunch I just used an entire can of green beans and added in half a dill pickle, which probably ended up being more filling then the actual entree

>>116026

You're fine to have a bit of fruit and honey as long as you don't overdo it. Personally I enjoy a mug of coffee of tea with a teaspoon of local honey every now and again, and fruit whenever it's cheap.

What's overdoing it you ask? Well, that depends on what fruit you eat, how much fruit you eat, the quality of the fruit you eat, your health, and your lifestyle.

Avocado chocolate pudding is surprisingly good shit

Don't fall for the carb meme, lads. Current year is keto year.

>>115842

>he fell for the chicken meme

No wonder it's the swede

>>116038

Raw spinach is good. You can eat it raw or cook it. An entire ten ounce bag of spinach only has 4.1 grams of digestible carbs.

>increase in testosterone

source

>>115617

I too just started keto, and while I'm already seeing results I'm less tired, the face rash/acne i've been trying to get rid of that was probably caused by lack of proper vegetable consumption is going away fast, and since I'm exercising by doing curls, pushups, and running, I've already lost 2 pounds and I've only been at this about a week it's pretty darn hard for me since I love gluten, and I love eating in general. Not being able to eat half the things I used to is killing me, and I haven't been doing it for long, but thankfully I have great willpower when I want to get something done and as said previously I'm already seeing some great results.

As far as meats go, just buy as local as you can and if they say whats in them make sure they say no any thing but meat. You should probably stay away from anything with a label though, just on principle. Buy from a butcher you trust, and again, buy local if you can.

If you still want to eat deli meats, there is a company out there called Kretschmar Deli that have what they call their "master's cut" that is gluten free, and no msg or nitrates or hormones. If you have a place near you that sells these they're pretty good. I'm sure if you look there's other companies doing similar.

>>117367

I've been balding since I was 18, and recent had been getting nasty acne on my scalp for about the past year. Nothing I did seemed to help. I was trying all sorts of different shampoos, and even adding shit like tea tree oil to them to try and boos the anti-acne properties. Keto cleared that shit up after about three weeks. My mind was blown. I also have had excessive eye snot in the morning when woke up for several years. Keto has not gotten rid of it, but it has improved drastically.

>>117369

I'm having similar issues as far as scalp problems too, (mostly dry skin and acne) and they seem to be going away for me too. It's really amazing how eating properly really helps. Even though i plan to drop the keto diet when I get to where I want to be weight and muscle-wise, I don't think I'm ever going to go back to not eating the right amount of the right foods.

>>117318

Have it as a alternative to lettuce for a salad and it's a Godlike salad.

>>115620

>>I usually just eat 1 2000 Calorie meal a day

How? Can you even digest so much food at once?

>>115841

>>115842

there is one other anon with a freaking wall of text thread all about how keto fucked his life up

so basically, this diet can be good for a short while (really short) but not for long term

basically it comes down to how you need carb to break up fats and protein

and no it doesn't help with testosterone

>>123800

>so basically, this diet can be good for a short while (really short) but not for long term

there are entire populations with better health than average who have lived on ketogenic diets for literally centuries

>>124710

This is a myth. I would refer you to many scientific resources, but I'm at work at the moment. Real populations that eat keto or something similar such as Eskimos are hypothyroid and have higher risk of stroke. The truth is that they obtained lower mortality from ischemic heart disease after their diets became more modern and Westernized. Populations with the best longevity have always eaten plenty of carbs. Some people report feeling good in the short term, because low carb diets will skyrocket stress hormones and such people may not understand what it feels like to have a fast metabolism that is not the result of acute or chronic stress. For now I leave you with this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12535749

Seriously you picked a Dead Soldier to pretend to be. His name is Pat Tillman and you are a disgrace to humanity

>>117318

I tried doing keto a few weeks ago and I failed to get enough green vegetables such as fiber.

Constipation was painful.

Lesson: Eat green vegetables with fiber, even if they contain some carbs.

And eat lots of eggs.

>>124731

stop shilling your shit diet

legumes and cereals are great