/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

For some reason I like this retard's channel very much.

>quits heavy training

>to make videos about a tranny inserting fists into his mouth

Vegans sure are balanced individuals guise.

>>112418

KEK

>>112401

>direct link to jew tube

>vegan tranny fucker e-celeb

at least webm that shit

Vegan Gains is the only non-white person I respect.

>>112585

Nu amen ra is the only non-white person I respect.

>>112418

fucking gay ass nigga i thought this was the redhead from supernatural

Is it humanly possible to be anymore of a human trainwreck than veganfag? God damn.

>>112425

>that pic

guy's straight out of an 80s action movie

BASED VEGAN GAINS

>vegan gains

more like anal aids

>>112418

source pls

>>113335

kek

>>113913

christ on a bike that's hot

>>114002

Degenerate*

>>114002

>>>/bog/

Vegan Gains VS Islam

>>113992

Yes Canada, that's definitely the most degenerate part about that couple

>>112404

He generates a lot of salt. He's still a faggot though.

>>117494

Fun fact Vegan "laughs at your cancer" gain is a cana-cuck himself.

I think Vegan Gain's content is rarely good but i really like him anyways because he's a crazy sociopath.

Vegan Gains is a true inspiration to me, you know? Like always give everything you got and never give up, this is what Vegan Gains means to me. Live your dream, man.

Vegan Gains VS Bearing

Just waiting for the day when "Vegan Gains VS the Jews" pops up in my youtube sidebar.

>>112401

Now we know how vegans get their proteins.

Isn't sucking dick considered eating meat? i thought vegans couldn't eat meat

>>117454

BASED

Interview with that weird looking alt-right chick

He made Bearing and that German cuck Kraut & Pee look like absolute fucking morons.

>>118586

She's hot, GTFO.

They definitely can into bants

>Interview With My Boyfriend

>I thought it would be good for you to get to know my boyfriend Jasmin a little better AKA Harry Potter, AKA Bill Gate's son, AKA Skrillex.

>>118861

Holy fuck this was brutal. Youtube ecelebs are such a joke at this point. Seems like any retard can just go after lowest hanging fruit sjw and get following circlejerk with patreon money.

Shoo shoo gains goblin

>>119709

2years? you look like some 10 year old hairy ass italian. you dishonour your ancestors.

>>119709

>>119711

thanx mr skeltal

>>119711

See this is the problem with vegan bodybuilding. How do you handle protein intake?

>>119713

"handle protein intake"?

``Measured by 100 grams``

https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/nutrients/report?nutrient1=203&nutrient2=&nutrient3=&fg=20&fg=16&fg=11&max=25&subset=0&offset=50&sort=c&totCount=1330&measureby=g

``Measured by household``

https://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/nutrients/report/nutrientsfrm?max=25&offset=0&totCount=0&nutrient1=203&nutrient2=&nutrient3=&subset=0&fg=20&fg=16&fg=11&sort=c&measureby=m

>>119712

welcum

>>119713

There are countless sources of protein for a person following a vegan diet.

The obvious one is soy. It can come in many forms but the two mostly used by me are tofu and soy milk. Both of them can be very good sources of protein. For example, the tofu block I typically put in a stir fry has ~ 25 grams of protein in it. Alongside this I'll also put plenty of seeds/nuts/grains. Usually just mixed nuts, which have lots of good proteins in them. This lets me easily get ~40 - 45 grams of protein in a simple stir fry. More if I have quinoa on the side or another rice alternative that's higher in protein.

There's also soy chucnks and soy protein. These are 50% protein. That is, 100g of them gets you 50g of protein. You can get them at most reatilers. And if not, holland and barrett. They're super cheap. They go good in lots of things. Stir frys, pasta dishes (spag bolognese), in pies, casseroles. Whatever you want. I mainly eat them in stir frys.

With soy milk I'll make my daily protein shake. I usually mix in the vegan blend by bulk powders.

http://www.bulkpowders.ie/complete-vegan-blend.html

with two scoops, ~ 500 ml of soy milk and a tablespoon of 100% peanut butter I get well over 65 grams of protein in a single shake. I tend to drink it slowly over the day, and have another one at the end if needed

You can obviously look at the whole range of nut based milks and alt milks. Various protein counts in them. I've found soy to be the best. But others taste different.

I also enjoy soy yogurts and on occasion the soy chocolate milk. Although it's generally got a lot of sugar in it.

There's also various vegan powders like soy isolate, pea isolate etc. Check bulk powders.

There's chickpeas and various other beans. Hummus from chickpeas. I mentioned peanut butter in shakes but you can have lots of different nut butters on bread or whatever you want.

There's also mock meats like the vegan quorn products, fry's, linda mcartney sausages/burgers and various other things. They generally have decent protein concentration in them.

There's just some examples. that's just protein sources. Your diet can be full and rich and have many other things on a vegan diet too.

>>119716

Though I'm not vegan, I like to use a pea+rice combo powder sometimes. Aren't you worried about bioavailability or complete amino acid profiles? And although they claim isolates don't contain any phytoestrogens, I'd still be careful with soy tbh.

>>119719

you can get all the essential aminos through a varied vegan diet, and if you really want to play it save, take vegan suppliments. I'm not worried as my diet is varied enough. I don't believe there's any reason to be concerned about bioavailability?

Soy is fine, there's no reason to be concerned about phytoestrogens.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/

>>119720

safe*

>>119716

>soy

Taking poz loads in a back alley is probably a cleaner source of protein.

>>119716

>main source of protein is full of phytoestrogens that lower testosterone

>no saturated fat for testosterone production

>still inferior to animal proteins

Why do you even fucking bother, you will never rival the gains of non-vegans, and it's not even healthier.

>>119769

Not even healthier isn't the half of it, it's less healthy. Especially if you do it just slightly wrong, which is basically the norm. Well actually let me correct myself, the norm is doing it extremely wrong and that's even worse.

>>119709

Hey faggot, reminder that you can never actually be vegan because EVERY food product contains insect viscera and eggs

>>119759

soy is perfectly fine to consume, read the article on soy on wikipedia.

>>119769

none of what you said has any scientific evidence to back it up.

Now, to say that a vegan diet is not healthier is nonsense, you haven't even provided any alternative diet for comparison. Not healthier compared to what exactly?

We can talk of general things:

Vegan diets tend to be higher in dietary fibre, magnesium, folic acid, vitamin C, vitamin E, iron and phytochemicals, and lower in dietary energy, saturated fat, cholesterol, long-chain omega-3 fatty acids, vitamin D, calcium, zinc and vitamin B12.[e] Well-planned vegan diets can reduce the risk of some types of chronic disease, including heart disease.[21] They are regarded as appropriate for all stages of the life-cycle by the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics.[f] The German Society for Nutrition cautions against vegan diets for children, and during pregnancy and lactation.[g] Because uncontaminated plant foods do not provide vitamin B12 (which is produced by microorganisms such as bacteria), researchers agree that vegans should eat B12-fortified foods or take a supplement.[h]

This is just from wikiepdia /vegan_diet

As for gains. A well planned vegan diet can stipulate the exact same amount of muscle gain as a well planned non vegan diet.

>>119773

What you're saying is total nonsense. See above paragraph. If you're talking about being fit and doing it right vs. doing it wrong then you're talking about completely different things. You're comparing a poorly executed vegan diet to a poorly executed non vegan diet. It's senseless. What about the average non vegan diet, the western diet, whereby most people eat non vegan products and end up with several health problems as a result. Heart disease, cholesterol problems, various increased risks of cancer. It's worth reading the wiki on health effects of meat and dairy consumption.

Whether on a vegan or non vegan diet one has to be careful with their health.

>>119777

Veganism is the philosophy that other species should not be exploited where possible in order to reduce unnecessary suffering. I still need to eat and can't help insect death as a bi product of crop production. The point though, is that my lifestyle dramatically reduces the amount of suffering and death of other species by orders of magnitudes. Put simply, if you had room on a boat to save 1000 drowning people and there were in fact 1100 people drowning, would you turn away them all because you can't save them all? Or would you let 1000 people. I hope this answers your question.

I'll also say this, the philosophy is a set of principles about other species should be treated. That philosophy is either wrong or right. My actions have no bearing on that. And finally, I am also against human slavery, I hope you are too, but I'm using a laptop whose components are mostly made out of slave labour. Unfortunately there's no ethical consumption under capitalism. However I need a laptop to do work, pay my rent and live a decent life. Unfortunately, but, it doesn't mean I'm going to go out tomorrow and buy ten slaves.

>>119813

>You're comparing a poorly executed vegan diet to a poorly executed non vegan diet

I meant poorly executed vs well executed

>>119800

Depends what your measuring stick for impressive is. It certainly wasn't easy losing the weight. Gaining some muscle mass is less difficult as I enjoy doing weight training. If I used steroids I could be very muscular with the hours I put in, but I don't want the health problems that come from using steroids.

>>119759

>>119769

Also, while the claims about soy are nonsense. I never did claim soy was my main source of protein. But, putting aside ethics, you guys should think about what your main sources of protein are: chicken? red meat? fish? milk? and read about the health effects of regular consumption of any of these. Besides fish, which I don't know much about and can't comment on. I think you'll be very surprised for the rest. From cholesterol and lowered antibiotic resistance, to heart disease and reduced risks of various cancers, to osteoporosis and calcium deficiency and other bone related problems.

Here's just milk alone, the second link is very enlightening and well sourced:

http://www.webmd.com/diet/healthy-kitchen-11/dairy-truths

http://www.pcrm.org/health/diets/vegdiets/health-concerns-about-dairy-products

>>119815

increased risks *

>>119815

>pasteurised milk

Irrelevant.

In lots of the most longest lived place in the world they eat plenty of cheese and milk, Sardinia, Nicoya, Ikaria. There is nothing to support the claim that a strict vegan diet is the healthiest.

>ignore all of the studies showing negative effects of soy

>only see studies related to meat

btw, you've been working out for years and your physique is still full on otter mode. I don't even work out and I still look more built than you.

>>119813

>As for gains. A well planned vegan diet can stipulate the exact same amount of muscle gain as a well planned non vegan diet.

Bullshit. There is no vegan foods that are as effective at muscle building as animal proteins. There is a reason why virtually every bodybuilder consumes large amounts of animal protein like whey powder, and not hemp powder or vegan shit. And I've already shown that saturated fat is necessary for optimal test production. Vegans have lower test on average than omnivores, that is a fact.

The problem with veganism is that it excludes a large amount of foods that you can eat and therefore a large amount of vitamins and minerals for no reason. Vegans are especially lacking in vitamin b12. There is no evidence that moderate amount of animal products are bad for you, and I already stated that all of the longest lived places consume animal products to some degree.

The problem you vegans is that you can't understand that it's only relevant for ethical reasons, but instead you think that it is better in every conceivable way. I've literally heard vegans say that if everyone become one, all of the world's problems would be solved. It's a religion, not a diet.

>>119814

>If I used steroids I could be very muscular with the hours I put in

Or you could just eat meat and look like you lift. In your pics you say you used to have no muscle, but I hate to tell you, you seem to have the exact same amount of muscle in both pics. Good job losing the fat, though.

If being a vegan otter is your thing, then go for it. But don't pretend that you're only being held back by being a natty. If you actually want to get yuge, then you should take a different path.

>>119863

>The problem you vegans is that you can't understand that it's only relevant for ethical reasons, but instead you think that it is better in every conceivable way. I've literally heard vegans say that if everyone become one, all of the world's problems would be solved. It's a religion, not a diet.

Also this. Well put.

>>119863

>>119859

>In lots of the most longest lived place in the world they eat plenty of cheese and milk, Sardinia, Nicoya, Ikaria. There is nothing to support the claim that a strict vegan diet is the healthiest.

I never made a claim that a strict vegan diet is the healthiest. Other people are saying it's unhealthy and the least healthy diet (in comparison to nothing). I'm merely pointing out that it's not. A well planned vegan diet can have many health benefits and a diet that over consumes dairy and meat products, such as a typical western diet (ie. not a mediterranean one) can cause several health problems. Also, I merely gave milk as an example and supplied two links, which show conclusive things. It was to spur the interest in a person to go read about the others. Although as I said, I'm not sure about fish, I've never read about it. I don't really need to now, as I'm not eating it on ethical grounds, so I don't care if it has health benefits.

>ignore all of the studies showing negative effects of soy

which ones show anything definitive?

>only see studies related to meat

lots show definitive, conclusive things

Actually being a scientist means I don't bother with any 'science news' that comes misinterpreted from a gains blog, or any other mainstream news. Even blogs or websites claiming to spread science news can typically do it with severe bias and in a clickbaity manner. I have read about both meat and soy and have found. Keep in mind, I'm not a vegan for health reasons, and if anything was demonstratively bad for me I'd stop eating it / using it.

>btw, you've been working out for years and your physique is still full on otter mode. I don't even work out and I still look more built than you.

well, this is conclusive evidence you haven't actually read what I've been writing as I wrote twice that I've been working out for a year, not years. I also don't want to be big, just fit and healthy. This is /fit/ not /roids/

You eat meat culturally, this is new, abstract and attacking the values you learned / where cultured to accept, so you're being hostile. It's ok.

>>119863

>Bullshit. There is no vegan foods that are as effective at muscle building as animal proteins.

This is just not a true statement. I don't know what else to say. You can get all essential amino acids and proteins on a well balanced vegan diet. Just like on a nonvegan diet. The reason they all eat animal products is because they're cultured to. It helps keep in place one of the most powerful industries on the planet. Also, there are lots of bodybuilders / power lifters on vegan diets. You're just making sensationalised statements without anything to back them up.

>he problem with veganism is that it excludes a large amount of foods that you can eat and therefore a large amount of vitamins and minerals for no reason.

It excludes a large amount of foods but not the latter. There are ethical and environmental reasons. Even health for some people due to the benefits.

>And I've already shown that saturated fat is necessary for optimal test production. Vegans have lower test on average than omnivores, that is a fact.

I don't believe you have shown this. Can you actually supply anything _conclusive_ that backs up this loaded statement.

>Vegans are especially lacking in vitamin b12.

This is true, you need to be careful and take b12 fortified foods and a suppliment. But you need to be careful on any diet. You can get health problems from any diet if you're not watching the quantities of foods you're eating / not eating.

Example: If I carelessly don't watch B12 intake I might go deficient, conversley I can carelessly not care about my cholesterol. Whereas someone eating meat and dair products, if they do it carelessly, they can get cholestorol problems.

>There is no evidence that moderate amount of animal products are bad for you

Are you defining 'moderate' to be 'the amount needed such that you won't fit into the bracket associated with health problems'?

You're missing the point completey. One can be healthy on a vegan and nonvegan diet. And one can also be extremely unhealthy on both, easily. People are making false claims about veganism that I'm showing are wrong or conversly are true for a nonvegan diet in parallel ways. Saying that 'vegan diets' are unhealthy is just as senseless/ meaningless as saying 'nonvegan diets' are unhealthy. If you optimised either they'd be healthy.

>The problem you vegans is that you can't understand that it's only relevant for ethical reasons, but instead you think that it is better in every conceivable way. I've literally heard vegans say that if everyone become one, all of the world's problems would be solved.

>>119863

Veganism is a philosophy. The people that follow it are humans. They're flawed, like all humans. Veganism is primarily defined to be about ethics. But also people go vegan for environmental and health reasons. If you want to comment about veganism, comment about the claims made. commenting about the people is useless.

>It's a religion, not a diet.

I grew up being cultured to eat meat. My entire life and world was built around the premise that it was acceptable and I should do it. When I started questioning it people were hostile and alienating. And when I stopped doing it my family outright didn't talk to me for weeks and tried to force me to eat meat on the occasion I met them. Here's something I was raised to believe and do, and subsequently left because of my own reasoning.

Which side sounds like the religion to you?

Also, read about 'carnism'

>>119885

Good job losing the fat, though.

Thank you. But, it's true that I gained muscle though. What I could lift doubled and beyond in that period of time. For example my squat went from 40kg to 102.5kg (that's 1rm). My chest press went from 28kg to 60kg (that's 3 sets of 12 reps). I could visibly see the muscle growth. Even if you claim you can't, there must have been.

>But don't pretend that you're only being held back by being a natty. If you actually want to get yuge, then you should take a different path.

Eating meat wouldn't do anything that a more optimised vegan diet would do. I'm almost certainly caloric deficit to get gains - because I don't want to be huge. We're focusing too much on me, who doesn't want gains. If you want to see people who have optimised their diet for gains, just look up vegan bodybuilders and see conclusively that one can be huge while on a vegan diet.

>>119910

> I've been working out for a year, not years.

you still look like you've only lifted for a couple of months.

>>119911

>102.5 kg squat

>implying anyone cares what your 3x12 is

based on a calculator, your 1rm is ~86kg

you don't have to do roids to have more mass and strength in a year

>>119917

Is that the same tranny? Holy shit.

>>119947

No its a girl from chaturbate. My cousin fucked her (less sexy) friend.

>>119992

She has tits, it's a girl.

>>119996

But boys don't have tits.

>>120205

>implying there's not a vagina inside that swimswear

Where's the dick bulge?

>>120208

Can confirm. I was once chased by two cars beloning to favela gangs after calling them a bunch of monkeys at a gas station. Luckily, niggers can't into shake off maneuvers so my brand new 6 series had no troubles leaving their third world asses behind in their old ass hyundais.

>>119709

>ethical and environmental reasons

Faggot

Socially awkward as fuck

kek, go to 32:18

>people here unironically watch vegan stains

No wonder this board is dead. Go watch the series where his grandfather dies off. He pretty much admitted to yelling at the old guy for having a heart attack, tried to film him being carried off by EMTs before his family stopped him, and then made a video about why his grandfather died because he wasn't vegan or some shit. It was fucking horrifying, the dude is a prime time sociopath. Fuck that guy.

>>123237

Are you that normalfaggot burger that has been shitting up the board recently with his "hey brah, why would you say these edgy things dude" bullshit? Please go to the next bridge and do a flip you miserable puddle of piss.

>>123238

>are you that guy that said something

Fuck if I know, but I know there's a QTDDTOT thread for a reason. This eceleb shit is killing the board, I wish you people would just fuck off back to reddit where it belongs.

So uh, here's Vegan Gains going dumpster diving with a couple of freegans.

>>123979

I have to emphasize how fucking surreal that video is

>>119813

<a farm animal that is consistently well fed, receives healthcare, is protected from predators and dies instantly suffers more than an animal in the wild where it is constantly struggling for food and survival until it gets sick and deteriorates or is torn limb from limb while still alive

vegan logic

i think its hilarious how any retard or psychopath spewing pure bullshit out of his mouth can get such a following in a dump like youtube

>>123998

Joke's on you pal, he got some vegan sausages, a loaf of bread and one carton of almond milk for free.

>>123980

I always knew foodwaste was a problem in the west, but this is just dumb. I can't even blame people for dumpster diving for food.