/doomer/ - Doomers Club★

>>9675

Yes that's pretty heavy. I once heard some zoomer remix with softer sadder beat (you know, from those 24/7 gaybeats radios) which was actually not bad at all but I lost the link and I wasn't able to find it again. I should go through my old rap collection, it's been a long time since I've heard some of that suff.

>>9674 (OP)

Heh, that's pretty good. But was it composed in a Nazi death camp?

>>9674 (OP)

Assuming we have similar core criteria for what media can be classified as being doomer, there are plenty of records with powerlevels outclassing anything by created The Smiths. This is not to say The Smiths as a band or their music should be discounted, but I don't see how any of their music exhibits doomer qualities to a significant degree. For any fundamental element of the 'doomer experience', I can think of at least a few albums which more accurately express and personify said element.

Would you like music addressing the shameful autocannibalization resulting from acute self awareness coupled with a lack of energy/willpower to utilize this awareness for personal growth? The constant, muted despair of knowing you are powerless to affect any significant and lasting change on the world? The slow process of hope extinguishing in the face of inertia, futility, consuming hatred of human nature, and self loathing? Cold dissociation from the utterly contemptible, man-made construct we must survive in daily? Xasthur, Codeine, Primitive Man and Leviathan have all released albums exploring these subjects in further depth. Vid related also revolves around the aforementioned topics.

>>9722

Good choice. This board has a few posters who are genuinely knowledgeable regarding extreme music, it's nice. The feeling I get lurking these music threads is a kind of comfy I haven't experienced in a while. I give it another few months at most before normalniggers crowd out the seasoned musicfags.

I don't know a single song that feels as anxious and trapped as this one

what's more /doomer/ than an album by a shut-in who can't even play.

>>9674 (OP)

In terms of an entire ALBUM, this would have to be my contender:

King Crimson, "In the Court of the Crimson King".

"…I'm on the outside looking inside

What do I see

Much confusion, disillusion

All around me…"

I'm surprised I didn't see it in the pinned thread. The embedded video's quality sucks though. Try to torrent it if you want to give it a real listen.

>>9727

What do you think of this record then? Posting favorite song

A dream of another existence

You wish to die

A dream of another world

You pray for death to release the soul

One must die to find peace inside

You must get eternal

I am a mortal, but am I human?

How beautiful life is now when my time has come

A human destiny, but nothing human inside

What will be left of me when I'm dead?

There was nothing when I lived

What you found was eternal death

No one will ever miss you

>>9727

Think an extreme metal thread on here would be a good idea?

>>9779

I thought of this one when I saw this thread - OD'd to this album.

>>9837

Disregard, meant to quote >>9816

>>9838

It was supposed to be furanyl fentanyl - I'm pretty certain I didn't use enough, though some people seemed skeptical that it was what I thought it was given it failed to kill me. But leaning towards 'not enough.' I didn't even use all I had, I passed out before I was finished. It was dumb.

https://youtu.be/iouRts2XShs

>>9836

Very Nice. Reminds me of Gaussian Curve but with less noise.

I'm surprised at the diversity of Doomer tastes. Yes, yes. Very intriguing.

>>9674 (OP)

Another Album. Only posting albums. One for the Doomers that got caught.

"…Early one mornin' while makin' the rounds

Took a transfusion and I shot my woman down

Went right home and I went to bed I stuck that lovin' 44 beneath my head…"

>>9850

I adore Pornography, though some days I feel Disintegration is more apt. I'd honestly love to find more music that feels like Pornography, especially The Figurehead, that kind of slow, dirge-like melodic dissonance with those kinds of minor key progressions.

You know speaking of metal I see most extreme stuff get posted around, but rarely do I find people posting older stuff or less extreme stuff, there was a guy a while back that posted NWOBHM like Satan and Tank in the music thread, seems to have deleted his posts. I agreed with the sentiment that those bands can be doomer too, if only for the overblown theatrical dynamics in 80's metal that it portrayed emotions and such. Most of them are in minor keys as well, which are sadder than major key. I find this song to be pretty doomer imo, with it's disillusionment with love in general.

>>9857

Lycia uses melodies with dissonant harmonies at dirge like tempos as a staple, albeit with more synths. While I'm not personally into less extreme metal, I understand the desire to listen to music that is boundary pushing yet doesn't take itself too seriously sometimes. Pigfuck and noise rock fill that niche for me because they're what I listened to as a teenager, but it's the same niche.

Does anyone else here make music?

>>9863

This is really fucking good, thanks anon. I make music but it's mostly melodic crossover thrash with pseudo rightwing lyrics, think Carnivore's second album, Retaliation, which is kinda tame for your average fullchanner but would drive most leftists (which is the majority of the punk scene and to a lesser extent, metal scene) into rage or sarcastic yet still mad "yikes", "wow calm your edge" style comments. Musically speaking it's basically Iron Maiden styled punk riffs played really really fast, not exactly depressing. About 70% of lyrics are in spanish, some english, though I haven't sung much. I've got some demos lying around but I'm not exactly comfortable spreading them due to anonymity issues, would rather do it in a faster moving thread in halfchan's /mu/ for example, and with the state of that board it'd probably get ignored or derided, one or both.

>>9857

I did post quite a lot of that stuff in that music thread. It's cyclical. When I will go through my backlog I might spam something again. I remember we talked how this music maybe should make you feel pumped but it has opposite effect on me. There is something in those vocals and melodic lines.

>Does anyone else here make music?

Used to before I become emotionally numb.

>>9865

Some of my music was appreciated around 2014-15 in halfchan's bandcamp threads, it was weird that people actually put my albums to charts and shit. It was mostly boring post-rock anyway, god I hate that music now.

>>9881

For that anon into old metal and shit. I got very long time ago from somebody old Thrasher mag tapes. If you can find it on torrent or somewhere get it. It's mostly punk and thrash, some really good. video related

Related to thread, I kept listening to this and his and that his other album he recorded as junkie and which has even more heavier songs but is less consistent basically all my teenage years through school. If there is essence of beauty found in doom represented in sound, these two albums might be it.

>>9863

>Does anyone else here make music?

I do.

>>9876

I see what you mean, I feel it's because like I mentioned, most of this 80's metal was composed in minor key, and minor key is sad, and even if the tempo or the energy of it is supposed to pump you up or make you happy, the base of it is still based on sad music. Leads within this kind of metal are also based on blues, just a lot more meedly meedly than blues. The guitars still cry in the bends, just like in blues. The speed just makes it sound more desperate.

Take this song for example.

Also thanks for >>9881, I can't believe I'd never heard that band before, it reminded me of vid related.

>>10034

You said it really well. Because I'm not native speaker or maybe for some other reason, I don't know, I was not used to paying attention to english lyrics all that much when I listened to music. From certain point in life I actually started to listen to what they sing about and some lyrics in this type of music are also pretty fucking apocalyptic and have that doom/gloomy feel in them. If the singer do good job, it always makes me feel like I'm riding motorcycle on empty road straight to hell, while it feels so right, like it's soundtrack to ending titles of my life. Maybe cringe, I don't care, I can't describe feeling I get from this music. It's tragic but it feels so good.

>>10043

>>10045

>>9812

Those lyrics say IT all.

All around me

In the air hangs a wreath

Of blackest bile, and smoke

That only I can see

I open up my heart

And let it all in

And it kills all my love

And hope for everyone

And it hasn't been easy on you

I know that more than most

I am born to be alone

I am just some lonely ghost

All around us

Hangs an air of darkest doom

And it flows out my lungs

And slowly fills the room

I open up my heart

And stick my fingers in

But you will never want

What I have to give

And it hasn't been easy on you

I know that more than most

I am born to be alone

I am just some lonely ghost

>>10115

Also I will introduce myself cause this is my first post on this board.

I'm a girl, i'm 22, i have no Hope or reaso n to live for. Sayin just to show to other girls They arę not Alonę here

>>9836

I have thoroughly enjoyed this album anon. I've now listened to it numerous times now. Please post more if you can.

>>10034

Will post you some more if you don't mind.

Fucking furry-tier album cover

>>10129

>>9878

Their singer was the Terry Davis of Metal. That's where all those ufo lyrics come from.

>>9674 (OP)

smiths and morrissey in particular were very good at appealing to a wide variety of doomers. its pop music, but for doomers, not the average target. and its something in particular that album that damn near every doomer has heard and, if not enjoyed, has been able to somewhat relate to at some point.

couldnt say its the "most doomer"

but perhaps, "most doomer accessible"

its a common denominator to a lot of doomers

if we were to look into other more niche stuff, we would undoubtedly find more intense doomer examples of music. but they likely wouldnt be doomer to all doomers. whereas, morissey was very obviously /ourguy/

Why is Norwegian black metal /doomer/? I've heard from BM guys that there's a certain sort of philosophy in the style, but they've never elaborated

>>10162

Norwegian BM has a mostly Nietzschean philosophy that strives to be superhuman. But on the other hand it is melancholic and mourn "What once was" ie old pre-christian Europe and its tradition.

>>10162

I don't know why norwegian BM should be more doomer than BM from other parts of world, f.e. Finland or Sweden. This is accurate: >>10163

However I rarely find in it melancholy or mourn "what once was". Norwegian BM started up in 90s mainly because death metal become joke, everybody said it, from varg, through euro to fenriz etc. Of course the focus on making something norwegian was there with certain artists/bands but with every "what once was" there was also a second part - "it can return". I don't think it was melancholic at all, with maybe exception of Burzum and few similar bands which came after it. Also a lot of bands in BM in past or now really don't need any strong message in their music. You have whole branch of BM focused purely on occult and middle ages fetish. If I compare Finnish bands and Norwegian bands, I really don't see how is one side less or more doomer than another. Also what was back in 90s is different from what it is now. This whole Nietzschean philosophy shifted away from main focus. What "sells" now is tradition, hope for the future, some natsoc ideas, etc. It seems to me BM become RAC, it's overly optimistic and cares too much.

I might add that if you want real doomer BM, then look to France. I don't know what happened there but there were tons of bands and artists who used "depressive" or dark, occult, "nietzchean" ideas, pushed them to extreme, while still focusing on rawness without becoming pussy shit DSBM.

>>10166

>pussy shit DSBM

Come on, Strid's cool at least.

>>10167

I don't know much honestly because I lost my patience with the genre when it received post-blackmetal hipster influences. I'm elitist scumbag really when it comes to black metal, not trying to hide that, collecting rare 90s bands which released only 1 demo, blah blah. But all I remember about DSBM is this ugly muddy but yet overproduced repetitive sound. If you have some good stuff please post it.

>>10127

Sure I don't mind, I've heard of these guys before, a bit more partial to their second album though, opener's pretty strong and apparently the lyrics are baguette for ronery.

>>10128

These guys are really good though, among some of the best 80's baguette metal.

>>10129

Have never heard of these guys as well, powerful stuff. Kind of a Manilla Road vibe with Iron Maiden instrumentation and Accept/Metallica riffing on the faster parts, very good shit. Here's vid related as one of my favorites.

>>10152

That's a fun way of putting it, he used a bunch of aliases throughout the years and generally tried having a "mysterious" aura about him but it kinda failed. Let it not be said they didn't carve out their own niche in the 80's though.

>>10153

This is an excellent way of putting it, thanks. For a long time I was more of a Cure guy, since I thought Morrissey and co. couldn't do something as massively depressing as Pornography or as melancholic as Disintegration, but I've gotten into a couple of tracks off The Queen is Dead, and I can really feel the /doomer/ vibes. Also Marr's riffing in Some Girls are Bigger than Others is really fucking good.

This is absolutely and undeniably THE /doomer/ anthem. It's a must-listen for every anon here.

>>10166

>I might add that if you want real doomer BM, then look to France

Seconding this, I should also mention that Hasjarl from Deathspell Omega is influenced by Bataille, who I would consider a doomer philosopher

>>10169

Check this out

>>10169

Lol Strid's basically all I know

>>10227

I would rate this very high if there wouldn't be those typical clean parts. This genre is maybe not my cup of tea, I don't know.

>>10266

This is BM with kinda sad lyrics, maybe what DSBM used to be(?). Video related is what I have in mind when it comes to DSBM. It's even more boring and uninspiring than any 3rd wave post-rock crap.

basically anything else on 4AD except Gaylastica.

>>10179

thanks for reminding me again that album existed.

>>10169

same here. also RABM is shit. NS dudes make better black metal

might be the most doomer I can think of. vid related.

>>9878

yes Agent Steel.

there's a lot of metalheads on here. UwU

>>10166

the black/death of Finland is doomer as hell. heard their citizens are too

>>9863

I do another doomer and I make an pro-Incel, anti-feminist noise rock/grind/black/doom project called Omega Jihad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG2kXj6Y12w&t=469s

I do noise and power electronics too but nobody wants to hear that.

not extremely /doomer/ but local guys, the admin might like them.

I wish they'd reissue this stuff sounds like Exumer crossed with Demolition Hammer and a bit of Agnostic Front. pretty heavy stuff for NE Ohio. Forrest, you may like this too

>>10223

>>10045

>>9878

>>9857

>>9739

>>9722

>>9675

sacred metal tier. Doomer-Anons really DO know their shit when it comes to the things that are really important.

>>10321

there is a lot of headbangers on here. wtf

>>10286

No problem, you should listen to Mysto Dysto then, they're the previous incarnation of Mandator, more melodic, trad/speed metal base, some things in this album would later translate into Mandator's first record (the opening of Full Speed to Hell and the breaks in Indenter), and some of the things on Mandator's first record are holdovers from Mysto Dysto (Black Rose, which I already posted, they did a faster version of Power of the Law in that album and Evil Dead has sections that belong on the Mysto Dysto album, slightly sped down of course). The rarity of this record is due to it originally being a private pressing, it got transferred from a high quality vinyl into CD a couple years back but even then it's still a bitch to find. A shame because this is a very good album, from track 1 - 6 it doesn't let up and has some really fucking cool parts, goes a bit flaccid after Indenter, but 3/4 of a killer record is still good in my book, especially when there's albums that only have 2 or 3 good songs.

>>10287

Thergothon is pretty cool, I like the demo more than the album, idk the production does more for me, it doesn't sound like an atmospheric mushy mess, instruments are more defined. I like Skepticism more though, same thing happened with them as well, the demo that came before the album had much clearer production.

>>10223

Boy do I feel this record is overrated, title track is fantastic and all but the rest just feels pedestrian, Mournful Cries was stronger overall concerning their Wino output. Die Healing is Vitus' best album objectively though.

>>10292

Pure noise and power electronics are fairly niche. However, a lot of sludgier doom records from recent years have heavily incorporated power electronics. It's one of the more intriguing developments I've noticed since 2013 or so. I can enjoy pure power electronics occasionally, but I'm not as educated about the subject as extreme metal, so go ahead and post some. Link related is doom with power electronics, and the link below is a noise album.

https://ironlungpv.bandcamp.com/album/avec-la-souillure-nous-entrons-au-re-gne-de-la-terreur-lp-lungs-052

>>9727

>a few months before the the normalniggers crowd out the seasoned musicfags

Unlikely, we have some movement here due to the doomer meme being somewhat popular but this board is destined to become a dead board in a few months anyways. So enjoy it.

Seven Tears are Flowing to The River- Nargaroth

https://youtu.be/Ut0rqG2QL_w

Truly grim black metal for a good old /nightwalk/

>>10116

tits

or

gtfo

>>9739

Epitaph fits the criteria better, the entire song realistically captures decay and its disparity, the first lineup of the band was the best.

>>9674 (OP)

Do you know Crywank?

>>12433

The catalyst will be Austria. All world wars start off with Austria, this is well known.

The swelling of people dispelling our country.

The bullets are flying and bodies are dropping.

Depleting resources accepting the calling.

Compounding the forces and fueling falling.

Calling simple… math.

Animal survival instinct engaged.

Plug in the numbers of simple math.

Continued depleted resources.

A human population explosion.

A world saturated with greed.

And crime crumpled social order.

Fall of man, impending doom.

Passing the ashes to our tomb.

>>9674 (OP)

Fiosofem

>>14110

Because post-rock is dead. It was killed by daypeople and niggers from south america. I used to be heavy in post-rock and the communities online was basically essential "NPCs think they are not NPCs" circlejerk. Artists had no chance to bring something new into the genre because retards were too elitist, replaying 3rd wave post-shit over and over. Every band started sound like Mono or God is an Astronaut (or whatever the hell the name of that band was), so the genre died and GY!BE went back into /mu/'s obscurity, which is a good thing.