/doomer/ - Doomers Club

Honestly, this shit was really blatant in the Bush-era. Like everything was hyper-patriotic garbage.

>>7468

It's all relative. Like some people used to love MTV and some hated it but media recently became cashgrab for advertisements. Everywhere I look, there are tons of ads. The propaganda factor is obvious though, especially in mass media news etc. but I think this was always present and every news channel/papers were biased towards something. Easy way out is to stop paying attention to it. Since I know now how it works "inside" and what reporters do (they just want to get article or report out without giving a fuck because they want to get paid and go home) I can't be fucked to pay it that much attention. Of course you have people who shill 100% propaganda because they want to do that primarily but I'm not target audience, or maybe I am, It just has zero effect on me.

What I don't understand is how some people feel offended by some propaganda in news while all you could do is to not give a fuck. If some newsboi write about me that I should feel shame for being white or something, I will just laugh him off, non-issue. I can't imagine feeling something like rage because some "nobody" is presenting his hot opinions to me. But this brings me to another thing which actually makes me rage:

People started to think thanks to internet, that their voice is actually valuable. Every retard nowadays think he is the messenger of truth and the patron of wisdom. This is something that really bothers me and even makes me angry sometimes, when scum is trying to teach me what should I be or what should I do. Sometimes I ask myself if It wasn't really a mistake falling for anarchy meme and if loss of hierarchy wasn't the worst thing that happened to us. I admit, I fell for a lot of ideological traps but I hate myself for not seeing any other option that going back to good old NS, I don't even know why I turned back to it except people around it brought me some minor disappointment. Fuck MY LIFE

>>7471

>I fell for a lot of ideological traps

Most traps aren't all that ideological. They just want to have good time.

>>7485

>What kind of traps?

The passable kind, of course.

You should watch brazilian TV, I could say it's even worse than american TV.

I usually turn on the TV just to watch the static. It's chaotic, in a good way, contains all the information I need. You can try it yourself, remember to turn the volume down to a minimum, don't mute it and decrease your screen brightness. Sit down, look at the static and meditate

>Looking back on shows and cartoons from then I see messages, but they don't seem anywhere near as bad as the in-your-face agendas these days.

It is possible the agenda was just as in your face, but you were too young to recognize it. Remember the D&D cartoon?

>The kids were all heroic — all but a semi-heroic member of their troupe named Eric. Eric was a whiner, a complainer, a guy who didn't like to go along with whatever the others wanted to do. Usually, he would grudgingly agree to participate, and it would always turn out well, and Eric would be glad he joined in. He was the one thing I really didn't like about the show.

>Nevertheless, they all seek to make kidvid more enriching and redeeming, at least by their definitions, and at the time, they had enough clout to cause the networks to yield. Consultants were brought in and we, the folks who were writing cartoons, were ordered to include certain "pro-social" morals in our shows. At the time, the dominant "pro-social" moral was as follows: The group is always right…the complainer is always wrong.

https://www.newsfromme.com/pov/col145-2/

>>7575

A quote from Chuck Jones.

>There's a dreadful paucity of ideas on Saturday morning television that really drives me nuts. I really object to the idea in those Saturday morning shows that the only way we can solve problems is in groups. Our whole history has evolved from individuals, not from group behavior.

>>7578

That really isn't true. The hermit's ideas die with him. Written history wouldn't exist without groups, as language requires multiple people. Of course there will always be "idea guys" but idea guys are only good at running their mouths, not so much following through on stuff without some support from a group of peers or at least a friend or two. I feel like this is a really big part of being a doomer, the isolation. Not having a "group" and therefore being powerless in the face of many challenges. Sorry, I am drunk writing this, but I really feel like the individual is important because of the way they relate to the group. Without the group the individual isn't really important. Would Isaac Newton have been important if he hadn't shared his ideas with others? Would Plato? Would Homer?

>>7579

It's talking about group think and herd mentality not society, individualism doesn't equate to isolationism. You can be your own person without pushing yourself away from humanity but even with the advent of technology the hermit's ideas can be broadcasted far and wide like Francis E. Dec and Ted Kaczynski. Just about everything evolutionary and after it came from one person who broke the status not the people f.e. Renaissance science or the men who revolutionize their societies like Lenin or Hitler. The point of the quote was how the morals being pushed into kids' cartoons is to go with the group no matter what further encouraging less independent thought, thinking outside the box, and more people joining the herd agreeing with one another questioning nothing making generations of limp wrists and mushy minds.

>without some support from a group of peers or at least a friend or two

lol

>Sorry, I am drunk writing this

Maybe you shouldn't drink while posting so you won't say dumb shit like this.

>>7527

How do you even turn on static these days? I have no idea how to set up my TV, I'm not even kidding. I know how to switch from one channel to another but that's about it. Luckily I only watch morning news and from time to time some family guy but that's it. I was without TV through 2017 and it made no difference in my life.

The 90s was rife with wiggers and feminism on mtv. Still bad. 80s was last good decade, even if I like some grunge

>>7471

>What I don't understand is how some people feel offended by some propaganda in news while all you could do is to not give a fuck. If some newsboi write about me that I should feel shame for being white or something, I will just laugh him off, non-issue.

While it isn't necessarily an issue for you, you have to remember that these stories do have a significant impact on the sheep around you. I personally rage at them because they are gradually changing public opinion while not doing it fast enough to initiate DOTR. It's frustrating that (((they))) have a voice while we're being deplatformed for being sane.

>>7624

I don't really know how big impact it has here in Europe. It seems to me as if even in west, they have very big trouble convincing people they are responsible for many things in history (with exception of young germans who are pathologically obsessed about holocaust, even more than jews). And it is very strange when it comes to slavery argument popular in USA, because Anglos had colonies, Dutch had colonies, etc. but I'm not aware of them bending over because of that reason. However, as I said, I'm not aware, I can be very easily wrong.

>>7604

'80s sucked ass.

>>7628

what are you, 50?

nah I liked the music, at least the underground stuff then. 90s is when you had VJs like Kennedy flipping off some guy because he wanted to see her tits. now she's a correspondent for FOX news. how ironic.

It got worse as smart people stopped paying for and watching mainstream entertainment due to the internet and ease of pirating or if you do want to pay, paying for better independent stuff. The remaining paying customers are the very dumbest normies and the rest has to be financed by advertisements or other shady forces. I mean all mainstream entertainment is basically free now, all newspapers, nobody buys anything except for 10 a month to Netflix.

When the product is free what do you expect. It wasn't like this in the 90s. And for news, a result of this lack of funds is that they can't pay for good writing and reporting.

>>7825

>Roseanne

Isn't she one of those "based and redpilled" sorts?

Media and history has always been propaganda. It's never been about informing people just manipulating people. Any one who believes any one alive today wasn't raised on propaganda has no clue what they're talking about.

>>8771

>New TVs now simulate static

I see what you mean now. That's why many people turn on tv just to have some background noise.

>>8781

What TVs do this? Most TVs just have a blank screen if they're not playing anything. I'm sure some do but which ones?

>>8771

80s is when it became more visible but it's not the start point. Not even close to the start point. If you want a modern starting point it's the 60s movements. Which were all controlled by the CIA and it's openly admitted at this point. A lot of the big pop singers of the era and later have connections to high level government military and security staff. Often children.

The 80's is the first time mainstream TV took off. It's the era most people can look back on and say "Well the party was still happening" without even understanding the fake 80's persona. The start of the 80s is bleak and dark, it's Terminator, Halloween, Ghostbusters, Nightmare on elm street. It's all dooms day, run down cities and bringing serial killers into your home by setting slasher flicks in suburban environments. It's not until the late 80s it becomes neon lights, camp pop music and doing cocaine for fun instead of just to escape a hellish landscape. The nostalgia kiddies think painting stuff neon colours is what the 80s was like and it never was unless you were a yuppie. Yuppies were the lower class kids making it rich through sportsball, lucky stock markets or daddy's bucks. They are the women posting on instagram today but in the 80s. These people are the perfect example of a society in decline where ill equipped plebs get near infinite money and spend it on nothing but nigger bling to show off. The hookers, the cocaine and the neon lights was all a sign of complete decadence for the elites. Mean while the average Joe on the street is still living in early 80s where out sourcing, no industry and a dirty street is all he can look forward to in the morning. And if he watches the news it's panic stations over HIV, which didn't relate to him in any way because he wasn't a faggot sharing needles and sucking dick in the bathrooms of these parties.

The 80s is the decade where the "new elite" gave up trying to maintain a public persona. They were disconnected from the normal people for decades at this point, but this was the point they threw it in their faces and taunted them with it.