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/tech/ + /doomer/ thread Doomer 06/08/19 (Sat) 12:45:42 No.22532

I don’t get people that convince themselves technology is too hard to use. 100% guarantee you could teach an old bastard a new card game with 10 rules, in about 30 minutes, and after a few games, he’ll never forget how to play it. Substitute card game for “steps to get email on your phone” or something equally as trivial, and suddenly it’s like “oh no I can’t do it fuck this black magic I don’t understand technology”. Not knowing at all how to do it? I get. Being a slow learner? I get. Showing them how to do something once… then 5 fucking months later, “I don’t know how to do <insert basic phone thing>, I’ll need you to show me for the 44th time”? I don’t get.

Doomer 06/08/19 (Sat) 13:03:35 No.22536

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>>22532

To be honest? When it comes to "wtf this magic box broke again" is not just arch and xorg meme (which is true btw) but also my approach to networking. I have server at home which is running ancient version of debian just because it works and I know I will break it with update and I'm too lazy to migrate it to NAS/BSD or something. Of course when something goes wrong with gramps' PC, he won't be able to solve it because he don't know how to google efficiently and search for the answer. I think that's the issue here, people can send e-mails and whatnot, problems start when something is not working as it used to. Even my grandmother can use computer now. The mentality is different. When you don't know something, you search for answer because what else are you going to do? When boomer don't know something, first thought he has is "I will call my grandson/daughter".

Doomer 06/08/19 (Sat) 13:20:53 No.22539

>>22532

The problem is that it's socially acceptable to call on "experts" for every little thing when it comes to tech. If you forget your epic boomer cardgame, you're gonna get made fun of.

>>22536

>people can send e-mails and whatnot

Be happy you haven't met my family yet or your faith in humanity would collapse further. The funny thing is that they have made written notes and are still incapable of doing it.

In other news, I plan on building myself a basic FORTH quasi-terminal over the summer with not one iota of foreign code. I've had enough of the recent drama about tranny COCs in my code, and the less-recent normalfagification of tech.

Anyone ever tried something similar? I've found a couple hints on the hardware side of things since I'm not a hardware guy, but I haven't seen a whole lot of such projects actually in use.

Doomer 06/08/19 (Sat) 13:28:52 No.22541

>>22539

>I've had enough of the recent drama about tranny COCs in my code

Such as? Because to be fair, it was in many projects pretty big deal but it all went to nothingness. FreeBSD foundation lost some finances but is still rolling, Linux is pretty much same even after corey's shitshow, etc. I don't follow ruby on rails, mozilla, rust or similar projects/orgs so maybe there's the issue.

Join the cult and write your own OS @ osdev.org.

Doomer 06/08/19 (Sat) 13:45:31 No.22543

>>22541

Thank you. I'd written it off as being wholly concerned with C, but I've found a link to a very helpful piece of writing there.

https://colorforth.github.io/POL.htm has at the very end a short section on the steps in bootstrapping a baremetal FORTH compiler, highly useful.

I just don't trust the COC even if nothing has outwardly happened yet. It's a foot in the door, and that's a very bad thing in itself.

Doomer 06/08/19 (Sat) 13:54:37 No.22544

>>22543

Fair enough. Also thank you for sharing that link, I don't know much about Forth except that someone used to shill it on /g/. Just a brief look into it, it's sort of confusing, f.e. abs is part of standard operations. Now we have additional headers/libraries for that. You can go Stallman mode and write your kernel in lisp.