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>>12820 (OP)

>MIT niggers

>A quantum experiment suggests

>suggests

Word 'suggest' in scientific circles means nothing but theory with not sufficient proof. But it's interesting nonetheless. Isn't this experiment with observers - one in train going in tunnel, other outside observing the train going to tunnel - one of the classical examples of Einstein's relativity? Or am I mixing it up with something? Don't also forget that "world" on quantum levels behaves very differently from what our daily expectations are, so if behavior of photons is different from our experience, that doesn't mean it has real impact on our "much larger" physical world.

Now I don't know how idea of God fits into all of this. What you said is something I thought about long time already but from different point, without God. I was thinking that what if reality is in fact extremely subjective to that point, nothing and noone else I'm interacting with is "real" or better word - "relevant". Same as you are irrelevant illusion to me, I'm irrelevant illusion to you; maybe I'm simulation - part of your reality. This has insane implications though and justifies literally anything you can do. I'm pretty sure some greek philosopher already said enough about this topic but I'm not very familiar with greek philosophers so I don't know. It also goes deeper, because in modern days, you can make assumption what you experience is nothing but your own personal simulation and truly has no impact on others. And you can't really prove it, think about it. I can't prove any nigger I meet on street is conscious human being (maybe also connected to this reality or just in any way part of it), I just can't. If he is part of simulation you can't prove it. I can tell you face to face how I'm real, how I'm human too, how would you truly test it? How would you know I'm just not simulated in your reality? If this isn't the most alienating and egocentric thought, then I don't know what is.

Now from personal experience, I don't know what is God, I don't know what I should think about it but there is definitely something guarding me. Every time I hit the low, there was something dragging me up, every time I thought it's over, some new doors opened for me. Sometimes in very spiritual sense, sometimes it was just matter of how life suddenly developed. It truly feels like determinism but what if it isn't? Some people just hit the rock bottom and it's over for them. There is this questions that there is too much pointless suffering and deaths in this world, so what was "God's" masterplan with those people? Again you can think, okay, this is your reality, they were merely an actors in your own reality, etc. Like it's pretty mental.

>>12867

It was a pretty shit article; its starts with a cutesy little thought experiment "what if we had 2 contradictory statements, both unbeknownst to each other" but then never bothers to elaborate on this "what if?".

>>12867

>I was thinking that what if reality is in fact extremely subjective to that point, nothing and noone else I'm interacting with is "real" or better word - "relevant"

I guess the better word is perception (of reality) as opposed to reality, but I completely understand what you are saying. Despite every piece of evidence pointing towards the "existence" of reality, there is no true conclusive and cohesive reasoning which establishes reality. In logic and mathematics, just because something implies it's truth does not mean that it is necessarily true. I've experienced a similar issue of doubting every facet of my existence; a complete in-confidence in my own self. Weird shit. Years ago, as a test, I tried flipping a coin to "test" if reality was a simulation or what have you (yes I know this isn't a good test). I got 16 straight heads before I threw the coin away and went for an extremely anxious nightwalk. I wonder if I somehow managed to delude myself into remembering such an event, if it was a psychotic episode, a sign from god or truly just pure chance. Regardless, since then I've experienced a torrent of uncertainty in regards to my self;

Despite having memories, how can I know that I actually experienced them? How do I know my conscious is not the result of some ephemeral orientation of particles. Can I know that things exist, they tell me they do, but do they? Will I ever know the truth, how can I be sure. How can I even be sure that logic exists and functions as I think it does. Can you tell me who you are? Can you tell me where I am? I've forgotten how to see, I've forgotten if I can? kek

Once you retreat to these egocentric recesses you can not logically return to any semblance of normal thought. Certainty yields to a chaotic and incessant doubt. I only function as I do now because I stopped caring (as much) about the objectivity of reality. Yes, this isn't a logical solution, but now, far from this constant doubt, I can tell my self that I'm better off.

>>12820 (OP)