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 No.11707

>it's too late for Gen Y

is he correct?

 No.11716

About that, yes, essentially.

The best thing to do as Gen Y is to work together on whatever bullshit they can and basically ignore like laws and shit. Gen Y definitely lacked a shit ton of knowledge/skills which would have been necessary in adulthood. That said, he's suggesting kind of a false hope about Zoomers. A ton of Gen Y had internet access beforehand and we still got fucked. Like wrt me personally, at 16/17 I was starting to rethink whether I should go to college because I didn't want the debts and didn't think it would necessarily be worth it. But I was given the choice of "college, job, or out" at 18 and no job I'd ever applied to (since around the age of 15 or 16) had EVER called me back - the economy hadn't recovered yet and my age made that even harder - so we "compromised" on a school and I ended up dropping out because I was doing so poorly and I still have debts today. I didn't fuck up on purpose, but I read about this shit and still got fucked because I wasn't given a realistic choice. Z could easily be screwed just the same or worse.


 No.11723

>>11716

>The best thing to do as Gen Y is to work together on whatever bullshit they can and basically ignore like laws and shit.

It kind of reminded me when hacktivism gained traction in early 00s, piracy was discussed issue and whatnot. It's not useful enough anymore when all you can do is some short DDoS and doxxing people. Now every big government has its fleet of hackers and they do harm to each other on completely different level. What should we do? Going once in a while black bloc and kick some trash cans is ok, I guess, but my hopes went down when media stopped reporting on happenings in france and people all around the world went back to sleep mode. Right wingers are at least on IRC having fun. I fully support illegalism and I'm disappointed anarchists nowadays are not really advocating it more.

>A ton of Gen Y had internet access beforehand and we still got fucked.

Good point about zoomers but internet was very different for us. It could be source of fun and some useful information but it was nowhere near as it is today.


 No.11726

File: 84d8bd07aed3a30⋯.webm (381.72 KB, 226x210, 113:105, oh-holy-shitballs.webm)

Make sure you watch till the very end.


 No.11731

i don't listen to murderers sorry


 No.11734

>>11731

(screaming at a produce clerk handling a pomegranite) unfollow me right now this is not okay


 No.11742

>>11734

sir i just work here also i don't listen to murderers i literally die if i listen to one


 No.11748

>>11742

>i literally die if i listen to one

Somehow i doubt that


 No.11749

>>11748

i would implode from the inside all over the video and whoever showed it to me


 No.11750

>>11723

>Right wingers are at least on IRC having fun.

Wait, are they?

Damn, I want IRC to be more active. The ones I go to are so fucking sad that activity is now literally dropping from users dying irl.

Tbh, a lot of what we should be doing is recreation and property stuff. Building stuff, establishing cheap self-sufficiency outside of society, raving, etc.

RE the internet - I honestly think it's worse today. Maybe not, idk.


 No.11752

>>11750

Of course, all active IRC channels I know are mainly right-leaning. I don't know about any leftist IRC channels but maybe there are some. /leftpol/ tried but there were like 2 people + 1 bot.

>Building stuff, establishing cheap self-sufficiency outside of society, raving, etc.

This kind of made me thought about squatting but it would be nice if we could get locally together and turn some place into f.e. place to have rave once in a while. This definitely sounds like a good idea which is also very optimistic. Excuse me, because I don't know your local subcultures well, but aren't basically cities like Portland and Seattle attractive to GenY because they are portrayed as this "ideal place to be if you are young and you want to get together with other young people, make a band, get stoned and be part of random avocado eating community"?


 No.11760

>>11707

>it is 2 l8 for millenials

brud, it is never 2 l8 2 just be a comfy neet and watch the world go to shit and your body decompose into parts

>is he right

depends on what he means.

if he means unfucking your life as a millenial in current year +4 then he is right but for accelerationism it is never to late

>zoomers

lol, people who place their hopes in them will have an ugly wake up from their dream.

>iphone addicted retards who cannot operate a computer except for bare minimum skills

>most attention-addicted girls that have ever lived

>most beta boys that have ever lived

>they watch streamers and let's plays on jewtube

>they spend money on pay to win crap on sony network

>they are either even more tender souls than millenials or they are full on degenerate normies

I remember when zoomers were called "digital natives" everybody was telling how they will all be computer geniuses because they grow up with internet an sheeeit. Turns out their iphones and ipads dumbed them down completely and they will never amount to those ideals. tough luck …

>>11726

actually watching videos is for homosexuals and unamerican. so is reading


 No.11763

>>11760

<

>zoomers

lol, people who place their hopes in them will have an ugly wake up from their dream.

>iphone addicted retards who cannot operate a computer except for bare minimum skills

>most attention-addicted girls that have ever lived

>most beta boys that have ever lived

>they watch streamers and let's plays on jewtube

>they spend money on pay to win crap on sony network

>they are either even more tender souls than millenials or they are full on degenerate normies

I remember when zoomers were called "digital natives" everybody was telling how they will all be computer geniuses because they grow up with internet an sheeeit. Turns out their iphones and ipads dumbed them down completely and they will never amount to those ideals. tough luck …

Same shit was said about Gen Y a decade ago, dude. "My generation os better than yours" bullshit you got going on shows projection.


 No.11764

>>11763

<zoomers

<lol, people who place their hopes in them will have an ugly wake up from their dream.

<iphone addicted retards who cannot operate a computer except for bare minimum skills

<most attention-addicted girls that have ever lived

<most beta boys that have ever lived

<they watch streamers and let's plays on jewtube

<they spend money on pay to win crap on sony network

<they are either even more tender souls than millenials or they are full on degenerate normies

<I remember when zoomers were called "digital natives" everybody was telling how they will all be computer geniuses because they grow up with internet an sheeeit. Turns out their iphones and ipads dumbed them down completely and they will never amount to those ideals. tough luck …

Same thing was said about the Millennials a decade ago. This whole "my generation is better than yours" bullshit you got going is projection.


 No.11773

>>11752

Idk, probably.

I know some people who moved to Seattle. Of course they're young entrepreneurs of a sort, who know how to really code and own a fucking tech company. I don't think cities like that work if you aren't rich. I don't know. Portland I have a bad impression of, but I've never been there.


 No.11791

File: b1cc4a1db7ccb74⋯.webm (3.59 MB, 480x360, 4:3, boomer billy.webm)

>>11782

this is why societal collapse is so important

those fucking boomers first destroyed the entire planet with their greed

>muh house

>muh car

>muh boat

>muh consumerist crap

>muh cheap slave labour

>muh cheap made in china crap

>muh business process optimization

>muh outsourcing

>muh stock market performance

>muh real estate revenues

then they have the gall to live for another 20 years in retirement and suck the remaining little things up that are left. This is why we need societal collapse where all the old fuckers sorry boomers die or else they and the liabilites they want us to pay for them will keep us down for eternity. There is no alternative. And finally when all the boomers are dead, the real estate markets, stock markets and consumer prices will be deflated again and young people will actually be able to afford a life that is worth living and starting a family.

Boomers are just a bunch of wannabe feudalist class of rentseekers when they already sit on pension funds worth 200K USD and would not need to be even more greedy.

They played the game not on easy mode but on tutorial mode. Now they call millenials weak faggots after destroying their future by outsourcing all jobs and bad parenting.

The planet has enough ressources for everyone to live a comfy life. But of course when you have parasites that want to suck everyone else dry, it cannot work.

Eventually they have fucked over everyone and there is noone left to give them more blood.

Only thing we can do is hope for a better world.

A world where boomers are sorted out

Stuff is cheap and affordable again

and less people to compete with for every single shit on this planet


 No.11811

>>11791

No sorry for boomers. I'm not even going to get old enough to see retirement, fuck not even most of Gen X-ers probably. Retirement is scam, carrot on a stick and the only people who could benefit from it were boomers before they raised multiple times age of retirement.


 No.11879

>>11811

Retirement never really existed for blue collar folks before the Boomers. It existed only for the white-collar folks. But thats fine bc even if Gen Y and Z were to get retirement, it'll probably be like helicopter-parented childhood only this time with adult priviliges. Just start your own farm or commune.


 No.11888

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>>11764

What he said is backed up by science tho. Screen time negatively impacts brain developement and with smartphones, you have a screen with you all the damn time


 No.11890

Zoomers are the worst generation by far, and are the most race mixed in the US.

This is the generation that grew up with smartphones, social media, paid digital distribution, and paid digital distribution video games and all the negatives that come with it. They have been conditioned into being brainwashed corporate cock suckers from a young age. Of course other gens have some that are, but not even close to zoomers and not at the same intensity and haven't had nearly as much conditioning.

They only know about paying for digital distribution, they don't know it any other way. They don't know that games used to be physical only with the entire game on the physical media and didn't require an internet connection or patch to be playable. The games they are nostalgic about are games that were intentionally released unfinished just so they could be sold DLC or micro transactions later on. You might say its only video games so who cares, but the mentality spreads to other parts of life and accepting being shit on because it is only video games is cucked in itself. They won't even pirate, they feel like they need to "support the developer"

Varg uses the One Ring as an example on why civilization needs to go, but he doesn't apply that to the internet which very, very, very few people such as myself can use the internet without becoming brainwashed by accepting all the bullshit thrown at me like social media and making games digital only for more profit, fuck them and fuck paying for a download I'll pirate instead, but the state of the internet and the fact that shit like Steam, iTunes, and Twitch exists proves most people cannot handle it. In fact, Varg said he still makes money from his music so I assume he is charging for it on iTunes, he is part of the problem that has caused digital corporate cocksuckerism.

>>11760

>lol, people who place their hopes in them will have an ugly wake up from their dream.

Thank you, I have no idea why some people think zoomers are "based"

Your reasons are spot on.

>>11791

In the US at least, there are estimates that the price of housing would fall 30 to 40% if everyone had to have 20% down to get a mortgage again, pretty sure it is a government policy that makes it so people can get a mortgage with only a few percent down. They are making it harder to own a home to make it easier to get a mortgage. The price of housing would fall even further if all illegals and visa workers were deported and all future immigration halted which should happen since there is no labor shortage or skills gap it is all propaganda to keep the immigrant and visa worker flood gates open, wages would rise across the board and workers wouldn't have to be as compliant since the labor market would shift heavily in favor of workers.

>The planet has enough ressources for everyone to live a comfy life.

Depends on what you mean by "everyone". You rightfully criticize boomers for profit maximizing strategies like outsourcing, but if it weren't for outsourcing, immigration, unfair trade, and charity/aid to countries that can't care of themselves, the population of the planet would probably not be even half of what it is now. Here is an example, 300,000 people in Bangladesh alone makes clothes for westerners, if it weren't for Westerners wanting even cheaper clothing then those 300,000 would not have a way to sustain themselves and the country would not be able to sustain its population by having everyone grow their own food. That lower population would be far more environmentally friendly than any policy or tax currently that has been proposed, yet most "environmentalists" are also pro open borders, pro outsourcing, pro charity to other countries, and pro unfair trade which is a contradiction.

The last new pieces of clothing I have bought have all been made in the US, it isn't nearly as expensive as people are tricked into believing. People pay $50+ for a pair of Nike active shorts made in some 3rd world shit hole, I bought a higher quality pair made in Wisconsin for $30.

I don't believe in man made climate change, non-renewable resource usage is what I'm concerned about, and it wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for the artificially high population of the world. I want Africa, South America, and Asia to collapse hard so most of them die off.


 No.11907

>>11890

>paid digital distribution, and paid digital distribution video games and all the negatives that come with it

To be fair we kind of asked for it with piracy. We demanded industry to change and it changed. Some good things emerged like, I guess, bandcamp could be one, but other than few examples, companies mostly screw us even more than before. Zoomers should stop being so materialistic and stop showing off with their parents money finally take a stance. Why would you buy 70 dollar online only singleplayer game with shitty quality? Don't buy it, it's not that hard. They have ultimate power to lower company income just by not doing something. Or fucking pirate it like we all did. Those 40 year old dudes are still cracking games in their basements, only very few games won't receive crack, usually it's because they combined poor content with heavy DRM so nobody is going to bother to crack it. You know your game sucks when nobody is even bothered to release a crack for it.

Also they have great power to be creative, yet they don't seem to go for it. A lot of zoomers have youtube channels where they show off their 3d skills, design skills, their music skills, even coding skills etc. Why they do it is because they want job in some boomer led company instead of creating their own company which would be able to bring something new, fresh and enjoyable.

>In fact, Varg said he still makes money from his music so I assume he is charging for it on iTunes, he is part of the problem that has caused digital corporate cocksuckerism.

How this works is in fact once you release your music via some publisher/record label, you have no word in it anymore. You can't do anything about it other than be smart and receive the few bucks they give you as royalties. Bonus points for him is that he allows people to use his music for various projects for free.


 No.11918

It's too late for Gen Y and Gen Z because the right-wing doesn't fucking exist as a power structure. It's just glorified self-improvement with a religious bent and all the shaming, moving goalposts, and dick-measuring contests that any self-improvement movement has.


 No.11919

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>>11907

>To be fair we kind of asked for it with piracy.

No we didn't, some people aren't going to buy it regardless, now that PC is digital only people such as myself that are willing to pay for a DRM free physical copy are now forced to pirate.

>We demanded industry to change and it changed.

All they had to do was release DRM free physical copies, I guarantee if they did then Steam would never have been accepted and GOG wouldn't have even been attempted. It is far more profitable to charge for downloads though and most people who play games these days wouldn't play game if it weren't for easy access granted by digital distribution platforms like Steam, they wouldn't even bother pirating, so there are also more potential customers to extract money from.

>bandcamp

The only acceptable part of bandcamp is that some bands sell physical goods on there. For the music industry in particular, they are making a lot less money now with streaming and digital "sales", what they should have done is try to get their signed musicians to get people to become audiophiles and buy some nice speakers, record/CD player, amplifier, etc to marry people to buying physical copies so to speak. Having a nice setup would discourage people from switching to streaming just for more convenience at the expense of quality. Vinyl records are selling, but ignoring CD was a mistake, a proper CD is higher quality than Spotify and even then CD never reached its true potential because the redbook was never updated to what it should be, CD is capable of more than its current redbook standard.

>Zoomers should stop being so materialistic

The funny thing is they are so materialistic yet don't even get anything in return for their money because they spend it on "Steam games", DLC and micro transactions, Twitch streamer donations, etc.

Varg said he didn't really make any money from physical record sales, but in the video where he denied being on welfare he said his music sales continue to go up and up and the way I interpreted what he said is that he implied that he put his music on digital distribution platforms himself which is why I mentioned that. If I knew for certain that he had no say in the matter because it was the record label's choice then I wouldn't have said that. If it were the record label that did it then I doubt he would be getting enough royalties for him to mention it the way he did.

It is only a rumor, but I heard him and his wife have (((Steam))) accounts and play games most of the day. I don't know if it is true but it if is then it makes him an extreme hypocrite, especially when Gabe Newell is a literal kike and pushed paid digital distribution to ruin gaming so he can make more profit.


 No.11927

>>11890

>mortgages

of course getting one is made cheap. Because if you are not in debts how would banks make profits off of those gullible sheep? So you need to make "buying" a home cheap. Muppets rush in to buy homes at artificially inflated prices while interest rates are low. Hehe

Then central bank raises interest rates and pops the bubble

>oh gawd I cannot pay my mortgage anymore, I need to sell the house

>oh shit the other suckers are in the same position

<real estate prices are falling

<bankers buy back all the real estate for 60 cents per dollar value

It is literally the same fucking game every single time. how can people be this retarded and not see it?

>Depends on what you mean by "everyone".

I mean everyone in the northern hemisphere

who gives a shit about some nomads in bumfuckistan or south east asian rice farmers

their climate is nice, they survived for milleania with nice weather and rich harvests. Sure, they don't have sports cars but they don't need them as they don't have good roads to operate them on.

And for us, well just the living standards we had before globalization transformed us into complete slaves.

>I don't believe in man made climate change, non-renewable resource usage is what I'm concerned about

same

global warming is a new religion that is now in the phase where it tries to capitalize on a cult

govts will use this as excuse to milk us for more moneys because they are broke as fuck and need cash

but the real problem is the end of cheap energy. Because all our wealth is based on cheap energy. And by cheap energy I mean the sweet oil wells in saudi barbaria. The ones where you just need to drill a hole and good quality oil comes out. Not the shit tier shale oil that is drilled in canada.

The Chinese in part funded their wealth with another type of cheap energy. Human energy. They exploited their own people for slave work to elevate themselves into richess. Now the problem is that this is also not possible for eternity because little Liang wants to have a better life than his father and grandfather. So now in their efforts to act like they still have cheap energy, China is searching for cheap human slaves in Vietnam, Cambodia, Myanmar and East Africa. It might work for another 2 generations. What will they do after that?

Our entire wealth is based on the exploitation of cheap energy ressources. Eventually it will come to an end.


 No.11932

>>11907

>Or fucking pirate it like we all did

Literally this.

When I was young, you were the king on the school yard when you had a pirated version of a videogame or album before it came out.

Now those consumerist cucks show off their itunes and steam collections like it was some medal of honor that they got.

>muh support the artists

they are not artists, they are profit oriented businesses. the artist gets 60 cents per sold album. If you want to support your artist, go to concerts and gigs.

>Why they do it is because they want job in some boomer led company instead of creating their own company which would be able to bring something new, fresh and enjoyable.

for trying start a company you need guts. none of them have it. They want to suck on the tit of big government or big business. Same in italy. Everyone either wants to join the military, police or mafia. Nobody thinking how to develop their own money making machines.


 No.11940

>>11764

To be honest. Generation Y is actually currently the actual techiest one. The frameworks to develop applications will get easier, so Gen Z will adapt to them. But in a pure technical manner, like computer architecture, Gen Y has probably the most knowledge and skills.


 No.11945

>>11927

>Our entire wealth is based on the exploitation of cheap energy ressources. Eventually it will come to an end.

As a communist, I think you've hit the nail on the head. The standard of living enjoyed in the West and the other US-aligned developed nations around the world is built on the suffering and misery of the Third World, just as the lavish lifestyles of the Western bourgeoisie were built on the same suffering and miseries of the Western proletariat. The bourgeoisie stymied the demand for socialism in their countries through Keynesian economics and later by exporting the horrors of the capitalist system overseas. This pacified the Western proletariat by easing many of their economic woes and moreso as many of them rose up from blue-collar working class to white-collar middle class after WWII. The US-dominated neoliberal world order is collapsing and will eventually be overthrown. The decadent American empire will fall under its own weight, and I welcome it.

>The Chinese in part funded their wealth with another type of cheap energy. Human energy. They exploited their own people for slave work to elevate themselves into richess.

This is why I have tremendous respect and admiration for the Chinese. They have labored arduously since the Deng Xiaoping reforms and have turned China into a global power set to overtake the US. You musn't forget, however, that the Western bourgeoisie exploited their own people as well, the Industrial Revolution was characterized by the same misery and suffering that the now-industrializing third world faces today. The main difference with China is though is that their original intent was to eventually develop into a modern socialist economy. The free-market policies of Deng Xiaoping were simply a means to this end and were never intended to last forever. I often clash with my fellow socialists on this issue, but I believe that China is still on a path to socialism. Basically China's strategy is to beat the West at their own game in order to assume the necessary global power and influence to start spreading socialist ideals.

>China is searching for cheap human slaves in Vietnam, Cambodia, Myanmar and East Africa. It might work for another 2 generations. What will they do after that?

This is where I disagree. Yes Chinese companies are starting to offshore low-wage manufacturing work elsewhere, but China's long-term goal is to automate their economy. They've poured untold billions into AI and robotics research and are looking to become the world leader in AI by 2030. The Chinese government is actually incentivizing and even mandating many of their top manufacturers to start automating as fast as possible. While the West is terrified by automation, China is embracing it since, as Marxists, they understand what the logical next step is: socialism. China is looking to the future while the West and the bourgeoisie that rule it are attempting to stave it off as much as possible.


 No.11967

>>11927

>global warming is a new religion that is now in the phase where it tries to capitalize on a cult

Exactly. There are a lot of ways companies capitalize on it, I wouldn't be surprised if the elites pushed it for easy profit. Elon Musk alone has received billions in subsidies for his electric vehicles and has his own cult when EVs were around a hundred years ago, EV motors are far less complex than ICE engines. Him and his cultists conveniently never acknowledge that his cars consume non-renewable resources and can't be repaired as easily as ICE, that said all new cars in the US are made intentionally hard to fix yourself without any special tools. Notice how Elon's 4 main companies Tesla, The Boring Company, SpaceX, and Solar City all rely or will rely on government money. Tesla would not exist right now without the billions in subsidies they have received. Anytime I bring that fact up to Elon Musk cultists they respond with the same thing every. single. time. " BUT THE OIL COMPANIES ARE SUBSIDIZED, LOCKHEED MARTIN", instead of accepting the fact that Tesla would not exist without subsidies they straw man, even when I tell them that I am against all subsidies they respond with that.

It is an easy way of advertising, all you have to say is "we're environmentally friendly" as a company for a form of advertisement, which is also one of the reasons I think SJWism has been pushed, it allows for no effort advertising "we support LGBTBBQBRAP".

The only reason China is a problem is because the West let them become a problem, if the West refused to outsource to China then China would still be dirt poor with hundreds of millions of less people and wouldn't be anywhere near a major power, same goes to India. Outsourcing and trading with them allowed them to become an economic and military threat. I know people don't like the US for invading other countries, but if they don't like the US then they should hate China much more. I have no doubt China would invade any country, especially the US, the moment they think they could get away with.

>>11932

>support the artists

The worst part about that is paying for digital distribution is nothing more than giving a donation to a business, and the businesses refuse to even admit it is a donation. If I give a donation to an actual charity and get a sticker then that is more than what I would get from giving money to Steam.

The whole "business" model follows Karl Marx' labor theory of value so anytime someone calls me a communist for refusing to pay for digital distribution I inform them of that.

>>11945

>US-aligned developed nations around the world is built on the suffering and misery of the Third World

I have no problem with that, in fact I would love the CIA if they actually did their job and got countries such as those in South America to destroy themselves. Currently they are picking sides in Venezuela to help them when what they should be doing is play both sides or none at all so Venezuela collapses as hard as possible. I consider myself a Mercantilist minus the subsidies and wage limitation, I want the country I live in to be as powerful as possible, with the average citizen having the highest standard of living possible, while keeping enemies such as China down, which my form of Mercantilism would have done much better than any current system is achieving its supposed goals or any other system not in place would achieve its goals. Many of the Capitalist criticisms against Mercantilism have proven themselves to be false. One good example is that Capitalists criticize Mercantilist philosophy that trade is a zero-sum game, while it isn't completely zero-sum, it is on a spectrum and much much closer to being zero-sum than what Capitalists claim it is, China and India are perfect examples of that, the wealthier they have become the worse off the US has become, both power wise and the citizens' living standard wise. They criticized the zero-sum philosophy but didn't criticize what actually deserves to be criticized which is subsidizing companies and limiting wages.


 No.11968

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>>11967

I'm not going to appeal to morality, since it's quite apparent that all you give a shit about is "muh country." All I will say on the matter is that if you have a system predicated on the miseries of others, it will fall apart as soon as those people have the means to rise up. Right now, the only thing preventing socialist uprisings in the third-world is the fact that (1) there isn't a socialist country like the USSR anymore to supply them with military and economic backing and (2) the United States is still economically and militarily powerful enough to install its puppet governments around the world and equip them with the means to keep their exploited people in line. Both of these realities are changing very quickly. China and its partners, such as Russia, are now actively challenging the American world order. They thwarted Western attempts to install their puppets in Syria and are now doing the same thing in Venezuela. Even in Afghanistan Russia and China are becoming more and more involved. The US may have gotten away with their imperialist bullshit in Iraq, Libya and countless other nations, but now their old enemies are coming back strong with a vengeance. The US can no longer just invade a nation unopposed under flimsy pretexts and install their puppets like they used to do. What do you think will happen in the future when the USD loses its main reserve status and massive budget deficits can no longer be run? Do you think America will still have the money to back its puppet governments and afford the upkeep for its gargantuan military? Of course not, and China and Russia will likely be there to support any national movement seeking to escape US hegemony. The American Empire is coming to an end.

>b-but what about mercantilism?

Mercantilism died for a reason. The capitalists needed to expand their profits so they started to expand outside of their nations. They stopped giving a shit about their nations and focused solely on making more profit. As technology improved, free-trade neoliberalism eventually became the new economic meme because it allowed for Western multinational corporations to make their stupid shit for pennies in the third world and sell it back to morbidly obese Westerners for 50 times what they made it for. China took advantage of this system and built themselves into a world power. You capitalists have no one but yourselves to blame. The Western capitalists, out of greed, betrayed their nation's own working class and exported jobs overseas to take advantage of cheap labor. China used this to become strong and is now almost ready to smash the US world order for good. The people of the world have had enough with the arrogance and decadence of the West. Soon, the proletarian masses of all the exploited nations will rise against the West and vanquish imperialism once and for all. The victory of communism is inevitable.


 No.11971

>>11919

>No we didn't

We did. The very big part of point of piracy was that we want different ways of consuming media. Companies screwed us over and now we can say those people who were saying at that time that intellectual property is a scam were partly right. I buy only things I really want. If the product is flawed (in case of software), I won't spend even a penny on it unless devs will learn how to write fast and clean code.

>some people aren't going to buy it regardless, now that PC is digital only people such as myself that are willing to pay for a DRM free physical copy are now forced to pirate.

Fun will be when Micropajeets will learn how to turn Windows 10 into full software as service thingy and others will follow them. But I don't know, if I don't like something I usually lose all my focus and never go back to that product, which is a good thing I guess. I don't need or want that much in my life anyway.

>I guarantee if they did then Steam would never have been accepted

It's mostly about comfort, even though by EULA you are not owning anything you bought on these services. They are more "clever" now, that's why companies invented subscriptions, so you don't even pretend to own anything.

>For the music industry in particular, they are making a lot less money now with streaming and digital "sales"

Nah, don't trust that. Bandcamp is still most profitable way to distribute your music digitally, with exception of doing it on your own. If I can get some digital album from there and I like it, I will pay for it and I know how much artists will earn. Compare it with earnings from iTunes or with streaming revenue from Spotify and you will reconsider your opinion on bandcamp. Physical copies are really amazing but I can't buy everything on CD, tape or vinyl, I would go bankrupt considering how much music I have. But okay, definitely, if you want to release only tapes and CDs, sign me up, I miss those times when band made like 10 demo tapes and then vanished and you felt like elite lol.

>I heard him and his wife have (((Steam))) accounts and play games most of the day

Never heard it but wouldn't really surprise me.


 No.11983

>>11707

you mean millennials? who the fuck says gen Y?


 No.11984

>>11731

explain


 No.11991

File: 693216ee7c2c4ac⋯.jpg (23.92 KB, 500x500, 1:1, smikk.jpg)

I was born in 1998. I grew up with internet but never was around smartphones until high school. I pretty much have Varg's politics but am a degenerate anyways, a self-aware one I guess. At least I'm in the process of reforming. I fit all of the doomer stereotypes to a t.

Am I a zoomer or a millenial? Not just by year, but in spirit as well.


 No.11999

>>11983

Only faggot marketers say millennial. Gen Y is the woke thing to say.

>>11991

You're my least favorite poster.


 No.12003

>>11999

Trips enjoys carrots up his ass


 No.12035

>>11968

I'm so sick of humanistic garbage and about how we need to feel bad for niggers and spics and shit.

Fuck off.


 No.12050

>>11991

my sister was born 1998 and I consider her a different generation based on all the stuff she grew up with and it being completely different than my stuff

(music, movies, video games, contemporary culture, etc)


 No.12053

File: 6a1bd0ad84e2583⋯.png (226.92 KB, 635x661, 635:661, 1543436082514.png)

>>12050

Well that is uncanny, I have brother born in same year. Can confirm that he grew up around different things, as you listed but I don't want to be biased and say that just because he has different interests and way of thinking that means he is a zoomer. Even if there is pretty big age gap between us, it's still uncomparable him with kids born after 2001 who got tablets in school and shit like that. I could even say that he stayed away from internet for longer than I did, not giving a shit about social media, no matter how internet changed over the 90s/early 00s, and also completely cut off all contact with his friends in recent 2 years, not going anywhere, pretty much already gave up on two universities but still seems like that type of dude who will just settle down with girl eventually, have a house and dog and few kids. (still believes in democracy, maybe that's better for him to still have false hopes). I did my best so he wouldn't fall for same life traps as I did but as it goes right now, I don't know if he won't be fully doomin' soon.


 No.12075

>>11811

every year the social security im eligible for decreases. boomers drive corvettes and have 2 houses and an RV. the only thing i have is living to see them die, but i wont enjoy it because pedro.


 No.12077

>>12035

I'm not trying to get you to do that faggot, even though you should feel sympathy for people suffering worse than we are. How can you be a doomer and not be moved by the suffering of others? I'm just giving you a warning. All I'm saying is, the decadent, hedonistic West will burn, and that's a good thing. Your arrogance and self-importance will be your downfall.


 No.12149

>>12077

Yes, the West will burn, and then the people responsible for its burning will either kill off the rest of the undesirables or the shitskin masses will flood the Earth and we will never touch the stars again.


 No.12168

>>11971

Piracy was already an option, charging for digital distribution in theory should not work as no one should be willing to pay for a download, but luckily for the companies there are plenty of brainwashed drones willing to pay for it.

>Windows 10 into full software as service thingy

Paid digital distribution is software as a service

>EULA

EULA only matters when legally applicable, it is legally applicable for digital distribution because they can easily and legally take your ability to download, if they take your ability to download then you lost what you gave them money for

As long as it is an actual physical copy with the playable game that doesn't require an update and doesn't require official server authorization then the EULA means nothing and isn't even legally applicable since it can't be revoked because to revoke it they would have to get the government to raid your house to revoke the physical copy you paid for which they can't do.

If I get you to agree to a EULA that says you are now my slave, that doesn't mean it will be recognized by the government.

>Nah, don't trust that.

Look at the chart I posted earlier >>11919 That is only for the major record labels and doesn't apply to independents I assume. My mind on bandcamp will not change, digital distribution should not be paid for, in fact I think it should be illegal to charge for it. I don't care how small of an artist they are, they are just as rotten as Hollywood for charging for digital distribution. They are not entitled to anyone's money. I buy the ones I want an official physical copy of and pirate everything else, it isn't anyone's duty to buy everything. I don't give a shit about "supporting the creator", when I buy a physical copy I buy it because I want it.

>>11991

zoomer

>>12077

Morality can be relative. In this case it is immoral to your own people to be moral to others, as proven by China now being a military and economic threat because the West was "moral" by giving them some wealth by being immoral to their own people.

If they don't suffer then we will, and we are because the capitalists used your mentality as justification for moving industry (money and power) out of the West and into other countries which has allowed them to become a threat.


 No.12187

>>11749

I read this and I though of a person imploding like a Cadbury egg just filled with cum instead


 No.12188

>>12149

Leak sickle cell anemia into the water supplies


 No.12193

File: e20000c7a88f739⋯.jpg (20.19 KB, 361x250, 361:250, 4YmxuVh.jpg)

>>12188

>spread a genetic disease

<through water

Come on now.


 No.12231

>>12168

>As long as it is an actual physical copy with the playable game that doesn't require an update and doesn't require official server authorization

Good luck with that. Today even indies are requiring connection to serves/account.

>EULA is not applicable

Wasn't my point. My point is their EULA says you don't own anything, which means they can revoke access to you for products you paid for. EULA is there to protect them in case you want them sue for that, you won't succeed since you are forced to accept EULA only if you want to use their service.

>My mind on bandcamp will not change, digital distribution should not be paid for, in fact I think it should be illegal to charge for it.

Yes, I actually realized it shortly after I wrote that post, that your point isn't cut for artists but that digital distribution is bad concept. I agree with that, I just didn't understand what you were with swede trying to say to me at that time. My point though, and I stand behind it, is that if artist provide me way how to buy digital music through no digital distribution service, I am willing to pay for digital copy of the music. It isn't really ideal and I'd rather have CD but whatever. I can argue in similar way that if you buy even a CD, you are paying insane cut to record label, etc. It's nothing but layers and layers of scam, unless you listen only to indie, non-signed, self-distributed physical copies of music, or pirated digital copies.




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