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 No.11540

Why don't you guys embrace determinism?

 No.11541

>baguette language

oh non, tres terrible


 No.11542

>determinism

I was determined to become a lazy meatball

so I did become one


 No.11543

>>11542

Literally debunked like 2500 years ago. Called the lazy sophism, used against Roman stoicists. Determinism isn't what you think, in fact very few people get it right because they fall in various spontaneous mistakes of the mind when trying to think about it, namely teleology, fatalism and theology (providence).


 No.11546


 No.11552

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>>11543

>Roman


 No.11651

>>11541

Now don't go committing lèse-majesté against your royal house.


 No.11675

>>11543

> Theology is heresy against truth

Lol, I'm a Christian here because /doomer/s are in the world but not of the world. State your case to break me and make me feel dead inside :)


 No.11679

>>11675

He just doens't believe in God, therefore his worlrdview holds any theological explaning of reality as unfactual. You, in the other hand, has faith in that specific spiritual* notion of how to see the world.

It doesn't really matter, you guys can be cynical and fatalistic despite having or not having faith in a greater purpose.


 No.11681

>>11540

I accept it, but haven't "embraced it" as some do by do giving up all hope. To me it's just another fact of life and we will never actually manage to create a "determining" computer. So there isn't much reason to worry about it.

>>11675

Out of interest, what made you christian and why do you continue to believe?


 No.11736

>>11681

claiming to obey Christ and turning /doomer/ into /christian/ wouldn't be very doomer


 No.11737

>>11736

this is the problem with the internet now

all the big ideologies are completely retarded and incapable of producing good art/""""""content"""""", because their doctrines all involve denying one aspect of reality or another

so they wait for the unaffiliated scraps at the bottom of the barrel to start producing value, and then as soon as there's something to be mined, they airdrop missionaries

which results in the value-producing group either becoming a party organ and getting used up and thrown out, or fighting off all the missionaries and turning into a bitter, paranoid shell of itself that can't produce value anyway (see: /v/)


 No.11740

>>11737

sheep, as Jesus described them to St. Peter, want the truth because it's aesthetic and want to be aesthetic to attract a mate and be respectable in their communities, so, our challenge is to give them a pro-social, truthful aesthetic, and if we're not doing that, asceticism is the only way to keep them from following us. /b/ was corrupted by its sexual degeneracy and becoming an engine of degeneracy lost its ability to host good threads.


 No.11743

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>>11675

I'm spiritual person but I wish nothing of it would be real. It doesn't matter if you believe in God, heaven and hell, if you believe in higher dimensions, reincarnation or whatever. Imagine this as set of layers of forced existence. Maybe it's fault of "modern" society which sees universe as corporation, where you can progress or go down in ranks but ultimately you are here forever. All these things promise you after-existence (I don't like the word afterlife). Since I see myself like, what would scientist call, an ugly result of beautiful mathematical equation, I'm more interested in vaporizing myself completely from these hierarchies of existences. I don't want to care about any of this, not about heaven and hell, no spiritual world, no higher dimensions, no reincarnation. If death isn't the endgame then I will be really pissed.

Now I understand religion might keep you going and by all means, believe in whatever you want to believe, I don't care but it's not giving me personally any answers on why the fuck I have to be here because christian sayings about God are far from reality. "He" has no plans with you and likes to give you things to life you never asked for, just for shit n giggles. Also there is pretty good chance there is no "you" beyond this human body and you just happened to be, without purpose. And maybe christianity brings nothing but struggle to ones life so you might think if daypeople don't need exactly this to validate their purpose. Life seems worse than hell if you ask me, because at least in hell you know what the fuck went wrong and you'll be there suffering for eternity, you know what you should do and how long it's going to take. No christian bothered explaining to you why the fuck you are here with exception of being part of this God's zoo, just because that nigger felt lonely one day so he created all these creatures with genetic code not suitable for life in universe (f.e. cancer) and then he expects from people after being thrown into this world to worship their owner. Christianity is disgusting and by saying this you are automatically guilty of trying to be better than God, being better than your owner, and you shouldn't do that. Anybody who thinks is a sinner. But at least Christianity has Satan which is this based guy trying to fuck shit up, which makes more sense to me than anything.

tl;dr I have no answers on big questions like any other existence on this planet.


 No.11762

>>11743

>Terry "CIA killah" Davis

holy fucking shit

them cia niggas got him

I did not know he really died, thought it was a meme

Terry died for our sins and is not coming back, I hope he found peace in the afterlife and that his waifu is with him until the end of time


 No.11819

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>>11540

acceptance of the external being your internal, and without control of the former, you'll start seeing the strings. Yourself has to be recognized as a piece with the first domino being pushed by god or god being the dominos.

We don't control ourselves anymore than a basketball.


 No.11820

>>11819

—-controls itself


 No.11849

Not a fan. Compatibilist here. I think it's too high is to explain here


 No.11851

>>11679

I don't believe he exists unless I can touch him. That's how stupid atheists sound.


 No.11853

>>11736

The apocalypse




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