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 No.1784

Let's engage in some alternate history.

Let's say I enter the fray just around 27 BC when Augustus becomes emperor.

I do not speak much Latin but I think I'd be able to learn.

I have knowledge of;

>the true shape of the solar system (earth revolves around the sun)

>how light works and how lenses exploit that

>binary and how powerful computers could be if they were ever developed

>basic hygiene

>the recipe for gunpowder (charcoal from an alder tree, sulfur and saltpetre. I never actually tried this.)

>the existence of the american continent

>advanced mathematics

>the basic idea of the scientific principle (falsification)

I am relatively large, especially compared to a roman of that time. I think I could beat one in a fight.

Now let's say I choose the blessing of Alexander and I don't fight Augustus but instead become a supporter of his rule, could I kickstart Earth's technological advancement by a few hundred years?

 No.1785

Gunpowder was actually useless for a really long time. A Bow had higher accuracy, was faster to load, more reliable and had as much power. Only the rise of modern bullets and precise engineering was able to change this. Binary and computer knowledge is useless without any computers. The shape of the solar system has no practical use as well.

Basic Hygiene however was invented roughly 150 years ago, this alone would jumpstart civilization. Common sense will help as well, like math and mechanics.


 No.1786

If you are competent enough at lens grinding to build a microscope, you are golden. Sell the patricians penicillin, vaccinate the poor against smallpox. A steam engine wouldn't be too hard to make either, although I can't imagine much use for it right away. If you know anything at all about agriculture you can greatly improve productivity with region specific crop rotations and some horticulture. Forget computers- if you know algebra, trigonometry, and calculus you are literally 1,650 years ahead of everyone else. The Romans were stuck trying to figure out infinitesimals geometrically (Archimedes may have gotten so far as to develop a primitive form of calculus, but much of his work was lost). Forget heavy artillery; a tebuchet that can be fired somewhat accurately would probably have been enough to rout the Persians and secure the Eastern frontier.

After that you focus on building steampunk mecha.

Bonam Fortunam peregrinus!


 No.1787

Oh, and remember to kill off all of the Jews and Arabs before they start causing you trouble.


 No.1792

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Mars Ultor! You choose Blessing of Alexander, that mean you're a genius commander.

Turn the battle of Teutoburg into victory.

also this

>>1787


 No.1793

>>1792

I should definitely print this out and keep it around, maybe tattoo it on my forearm.

>>1786

How am I going to invent vaccines?


 No.1795

>>1784

in that particular period with that plan, I'm not sure what else you could do besides drop some knowledge and fight. Octavian did pretty well for himself and the empire. if anything, I suspect you'd either conquer the world for him or totally fuck up the pax romana. Your main selling point is being a general after all. Also, Romans had more than basic hygiene. You could use your power to convince them germs are real, but they already had excellent sanitation relatively speaking.

And also also

>not choosing pheidippides

>not gaining the advantage of prime communication & transportation on earth

>not being worshipped as Mercury

>not being credited for creating all art it Britain

>not being the immortal god emperor guiding the empire for millennia

>not running to Ethiopia for coffee beans

>not swimming to America for coco beans

>not running and swimmimg for Asian qt slaifu

>not nipping that Catholic thing in the bud

>not putting a Roman on the moon by 500 AD

>not inventing the electric lyre

>not summoning the child version of yourself to receive the finest schooling and care before you die of old age as savior of mankind


 No.1796

>>1793

Notice that cows sometimes have small sores on their teets. Scrape a few off, grind them up, put them on a needle and stick the needle in a child. You just vaccinated them against smallpox (same virus as cowpox). To make a rabbies vaccine, infect some rabbits, then chop them up, put them in a serum, heat it slightly, and inject some of the solution into a dog bite victim within 8 weeks of the incident. Those are the two easiest ones, the rest are more complex, but you can see the general principles.


 No.1797

>>1796

No offense but I'm going to go ahead and not do that.


 No.1804

>>1797

he's totally right though. These measures are way way better than dead babies, bro. Rome had rough edges. Maybe ancient lyfe ain't 4 u.


 No.1813

Or, you could choose to be Achilles and basically be a ancient world nuke.

It'd be like the cold war in ancient times. You'd be the ultimate deterrent.


 No.1814

>>1784

>become perfect leader

>volunteer to be Augustus' bitch

wut


 No.1860

>>1785

>Gunpowder was actually useless for a really long time.

What is the age of pike and shot.


 No.1947

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>>1784

The saeclum augusta has a certain mythological property to it, it's considered the second age of legend. The first being the events of the trojan war. It was the time of Celcus and his cohorts.

Celcus was a slave and gladiator, possibly a prisoner of war. Although the legend says he just showed up in Rome one day, inside the walls and undetected by the guards. Some stenographs of Roman discourse at that time seem to reference that story.

Celcus was by all accounts a germanic looking man, much taller than those around him. He must have been an imposing figure in the Roman amphitheatre. Combined with his legendarily commanding presence it must have won a lot of fights for him.

Eventually Celcus did earn his freedom and went on to advance his social standing by way of the writings we all know him for. Most aspiring philosopers nowadays are taught pretty much the exact principles laid out in his trias cognitio. Math, Engineering and the Natural Sciences. The three broadly overlapping categories of human genius were first described as such in the writings of Celcus.

Before imperial Rome numbers where writtin down a lot differently, it was with the time of Celcus that the Octal system was introduced. First only in academia but eventually as a universal standard. A lot of other things were introduced around that time too. Modern epistimology, chemistry and the basics of modern medicine. It is often referred to as the philosophical golden age.

Celcus was known as a charasmatic person and natural leader. He eventually worked himself up to the emperor's inner circle but grew bored with politics and went on to live in self-imposed exile in the northest reaches of the empire.

Celcus' presence in germania marked the real expansion of the roman empire. It was here that he created the first railroad. The giant steel behemoth that is a train could only be created by an organization as wealthy as augustus' empire but the invention braught the world to its knees. Suddenly travel time between Italy and Germania was reduced to scarcely a few days and large quantities of soldiers and supplies were quickly and efficiently transported between realms.

Combined with the noteworthy strategic moves of Celcus' himself (worthy of books each on their own) this advance in infrastructure brought the west of the continent to its knees in scarcely a decade. Bringing not only political unity but levels of wealth never before seen to the citizens of Rome.

As Rome became acquinted with this steam technology, that revolutionized industry and widened the class divide Celcus isolated himself in the permafrost of scandinavia, far away from the politics of Rome where a roman would have to travel for weeks to reach it even when taking the railways.

The great college was situated here, a city shrouded in a veil of mist. Few ever saw it and the place took on mythical proportions in the mind of the ordinary roman. The brightest and most diligent scholars were invited to be part of the college and those that came back from it were venerated with the kind of religious esteem usually reserved for high priests.

It's from this mystical city that the first flying machines originated, the balloons and planes that would one day subdue china and result in the vertical cities you see there today, electricity and photography also originated from the great college.

It is these first photos that grant us our only clues in locating the whereabouts of this great college. Ever since the start of our calendar at the death of emperor augustus it has been over 500 years and the stories of Celcus have faded into myth and legend. Eventually the city had stopped communicating with the outside world, the aging Celcus had gone mad and decided the population of his city had to be bred for intelligence like how farmers breed their cattle for the largest offspring and stopped accepting applicants from the outside world.

Right now all the known world is part of the roman empire, the first capsules are being sent into the stratosphere and philosphers are researching the secrets of the atom but the greatest mystery of our time is the hidden city in the scandinavian mountains.


 No.1975

>>1947

Enjoyed the ride. Thank you for contributing.


 No.2423

Computers are actually fucking dumb. Learn logic, boolean algebra, algebras in general, etc. and then you're golden.


 No.4690

Tell Nero about the jews and feminism. Cant believe none of you ignorant cucks remember such important thing, the vancer that killed Rome.


 No.4760

>>1784

>Take the Blessing of Pheidippides

>chose the year 2018 and my home country

>I never reach the year I left again so I get infinite immortality

I win


 No.5160

>Not picking Pheidippides and the first continent oh so many millions of years ago

>not seeing life itself emerge from mud

>not being the first human to see the whole of history

>not fertilizing earth with your dung, and from said fertile soil seeing the bacteria in there evolve


 No.6080

>>1860

>What is the age of pike and shot

The period when firearms went from 'completely useless toys of the wealthy (if that)' to 'expensive and annoying but basically functional weapons if used in (very) large volleys, well they're more or less useful, sort of', and that took a few centuries of R&D. Remember that the Spanish army was using slingers throughout the age if pike and shot, and that there were British military officers calling for the reintroduction of the longbow well into the 1800's.


 No.6126

>>1785

Bows need upper body strength and training. Any old schmuck can pick up a bang stick and make bad guys more deader. It also pierces armor and shields better than any other ranged weapon.


 No.6129

>>1784

>Pheidippides

>become "immortal"

>piss off some brainlets

>get my head chopped off and die

Wew lad, I pick Achillies. I'll definitely die one day but my legend will live on.

"The greatest warrior that ever lived"


 No.6246

>>6129

The deal doesn't put any limitations on the immortality that I can see. It doesn't say "you are immortal unless your head's cut off", it says "you are immortal", full stop. Plus, to cut your head off they'd have to catch you, and since you can outrun the fastest horse and swim across oceans and never fucking tire they'll have a bitch of a time doing that. If you went to the past, there's zero chance they'd catch up with you, and if you use the >>4760 loophole the kind of Mirror's Edge parkour you'd be pulling off would put you out of the reach of the vehicles that could outpace you.


 No.6248

>>6246 Immortal means you don't age, not that you can't die.


 No.6249

>>6248

www.google.com/search?q=define+immortal


 No.6250

Someone can chop your limbs off then scatter your parts across the world and you would be fine. it would just be a major pain to find and reattach them.


 No.6255

>>6250

Again, provided they can catch you.


 No.6266

>>6249

thats an outdated meaning, no one uses it to mean that anymore, the fact that severe injures can injure you suggest that you can die from causes outside of old age, it just takes something really tough to kill you.


 No.6267

>>6266

>no one uses it to mean that anymore

Except everyone. It's in the word itself. Im-mortal. Not mortal.

>the fact that severe injures can injure you suggest

It says they can slow you down. It doesn't say anything about killing you. And any implications you might interpret to that effect are flatly contradicted by the direct statement that you are immortal.




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