No.14541 [Last50 Posts]
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No.14544
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No.14545
if you're going to make something word heavy, at least have th decency to use some fucking paragraphs
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No.14546
>>14541
>1st image
>2nd, 3rd
Look unrelated to the first
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No.14552
>>14546
It is, or so they told me in the 4chan threads, a lot of people sperged out because of the baby eating.
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No.14554
>>14544
brainlet, just read the intro and a few spells. no one is asking you to read it all. no one is asking you to read it in the first place. why do you zero-content posters even bother coming here lol.
>>14545
wat. there are paragraphs you monumental retard, what do you think is separating each spell?
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No.14612
Slightly updated version.
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No.14615
>>14612
am I reading a CYOA or a fucking technical manual. learn some presentation skills then come back. or just sling it on reddit, those NPCs will eat anything up.
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No.14618
>>14615
Funny you said that, the subreddit hated it. The author said it was more of an experiment than a solid CYOA, so i can understand not liking it.
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No.14629
>>14618
looks more like a headache than an experiment
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No.14796
Most updated version to date, author is making small updates every now and then, it's very stupid to have so many versions floating around.
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No.14799
>>14796
It's also very stupid to bump the thread of a CYOA nobody in their right mind would make a build for.
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No.14800
>>14799
I'm kind of posting it here so i don't have to download it and can always come back here to document the updating history, kind of neato.
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No.14828
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No.14829
>>14796
>>>14796
>>>14541
>>>14612
>>>14796
>Worst CYOA I have seen. It's just an endless wall of text.
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No.14830
>>14829
>>14828
sage you faggots. stop bumping this shit.
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No.14831
>>14541
>>14612
>>14796
Besides the wall of text, it's still shit.
Everything needs retarded ingredients and it never states what amounts of the ingredient are necessary.
The worst sin is that the ingredients and lore/flavor-text/fluff are written before the effects, wasting the player's time reading the whole thing or looking for where it is. The spells are supposed to be what's interesting.
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No.14832
>>14796
>No posted plays yet ITT
>A CYOA so fucked up it would take a seriously bored and self loathing Anon to take a shot at it
>Pic related
Actual play saved for next post, in order to facilitate the mockery if I am unable to complete the CYOA.
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No.14833
>>14832
>comes back to the thread to face his boasts after reading the hacked up POS CYOA that makes OG FATAL look playable in comparison
OK - mea culpa - let the mockery commence.
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No.14836
>>14833
Why mock you when we could mock this piece of shit instead? I don't even care that it's long, needlessly wordy and lacks pictures, there's simply no motivation whatsoever to actually play it. The worst part is people actually defend this garbage as if it were somehow new and interesting when the only innovation seems to come from a list of things not to do in a CYOA. They don't actually play it though, because no matter how contrarian you are it doesn't make the thing not trash.
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No.14842
>>14836
>no matter how contrarian you are it doesn't make the thing not trash.
Pretty much. OP, if this is your work or something you're planning an update for, then try to whittle down the bullshit and add a story, setting, or reason for people to care about it.
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No.14845
>>14842
I don't think author knows what 8ch is. I don't think author bothers with feedback, either.
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No.14846
OP here, i'm surprised how much sperging there's around this CYOA everywhere, 4/tg/ hated it, reddit hated it and now you hate it, must be so good.
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No.14847
>>14846
Post your build, I want an example of it's played.
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No.14848
>>14847
I'll copypaste what i wrote once in 4/tg/, i think i've only seen like two builds there apart from my own, even them i got called an edgelord, which is understandable but i stand by my decision, it's a setting so i don't see anything bad with taking the fucked up options it gives you, you are supposed to be someone interested in the dark arts.
Corruptions: Wild Silence, Bloodstains, Snarls, Chill Skin.
Books: A twin treatise on the pillars of infernal magic (two columns of second tier turn into first tier), a fascicle of collected knowledge (first tier magics in half the time)
My very first objective will be to establish myself economically (Merchant's Welcome), protect myself (Amulet against poison, Witch finder, Hound of hell, Skin of the stillborn, rabía de sangre) in order to reach my true objective, which is Devil's fornication, to achieve immortality. Learning all of this shit will take me around 74 years if my calculations are correct, hopefully my plan for reaching immortality works, and at that point i guess my main objective before attempting to learn the rest of the rituals will be to learn magic that will make my life comfier (Fox ward, Plague ward, Glamour, Lunar Bracelet and Solar bracelet). In order to kidnap the children and the firstborn nobles i will depend almost entirely on the hell hound (i suppose i could order it to kidnap any children it sees and bring them back to me) and in Glamour, which i hope keeps its facade as i steal a baby while disguised as a mother. The children are for Veren Kulta and Devil's Appraisal btw.
The pacts i'll take for the three rituals I chose that require it will be: Annual offering, Discord and Blasphemy.
Even then i don't know if this build is fully correct, the author was very vague in the rules.
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No.14849
>>14846
>4/tg/ hated it
>reddit hated it
>now you hate it
>must be so good.
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No.14850
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No.14860
Okay. I read this a while ago. Or at least most of it. Will posit my opinions on this as I have already done elsewhere.
The amount of research that went into wall of information is astounding. You need to harbor a specific kind of taste to appreciate this for what it is. It's highly unorthodox, you can't even make a build for it without fanfictioning your own future. It practically demands you to have a certain kind of imagination, one more grounded and pertaining to real life. You can't afford to be an idiot here.
The "cyoa" itself is clearly based on folk magics and the occult. The ingredients and components for some of these rituals are highly accurate and aesthetic for this reason. Flying ointments were a real thing, and documented recipes called for the fat of babes and children. Some of these rituals bring up actual historical texts and individuals and real world locations. It feels very genuine and authentic, really getting across how simple-minded folk in medieval times actually went about practicing magic, and secret societies doing sketchy things behind closed doors. The variety in the spells is immense, as they're all culturally and ethnically distinct from each other. Some spells are clearly hedge magic, while others are clearly the trade of the educated. The detailed descriptions just adds to this authenticity. Perhaps a bit too much. Some of the spells are also, as the "cyoa" itself admits, rather useless in modern times. This just enforces the theme that magic is rare and dying.
All in all, this isn't for the faint of heart. You need to be of a certain mind to even consider some of these things. Most of the spells don't require sick ingredients, but some do. It's probably the best, realistic magic "cyoa" in the 'magic has a cost and is dangerous' sense, akin to Game of Thrones, or the typical Sword & Sorcery, Solomon Kane, etc.
Fun read. But I can't really make a build for it beyond mentally envisioning it, which is enjoyable for me on its own.
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No.14861
>>14860
Extremely based post.
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No.14863
>>14831
>Everything needs retarded ingredients and it never states what amounts of the ingredient are necessary.
Are you intentionally being a dumbass?
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No.14869
>>14863
Let me put it like this: is there a difference between the spell requiring "a drop" of virgin's snot, and a spell requiring "three gallons" of virgin's snot?
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No.14870
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No.14875
>>14870
The difference is that in the first case you can just borrow someone's hankie (or use your own, whatever), and in the second one you'll have to waste a lot of effort gathering the ingredient if you manage it at all (not to mention that everyone and their mother will be talking how much of a freak you are by the end of it)
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No.14876
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No.14880
>>14875
I think you might be retarded
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No.14882
>>14880
Well it certainly beats being definitely retarded like you are
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No.14883
>>14882
But you don't know how to read or apply basic logic apparently? Last reply you will be receiving from me, friend.
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No.14886
>>14883
>you don't know how to read or apply basic logic apparently
Just in this conversation I've already displayed much more of that ablility than you appear to possess
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No.14934
New fucking update! probably the final, probably not!
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No.14938
Is there others like this ? Maybe one for a druid, cleric or mage?
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No.14943
>>14938
I wish, if you mean just the large amount of text for those specific types of magic, not really, here is a very similar CYOA tho.
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No.14949
>>14934
Hey this looks better. Kind of. I mean look-wise. Content wise I already was enjoying it.
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No.14968
I'm a little surprised to see no players on /occult/
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No.14970
>>14934
This requires way too much effort, for me at least. This is one of those cyoas you save purely because of how interesting it is. The difficulty is just going to raise this to infamy.
But, I really enjoyed reading it. A lot. Magic realism is hard to do properly. It doesn't skim on the detail, and some details are absolutely nasty and horrifying. Cutting open infants for their hearts? Eesh. Raping and sacrificing virgins? I'm surprised this hasn't been flogged by tumblr yet.
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No.14973
>>14970
>I'm surprised this hasn't been flogged by tumblr yet.
At least it tells us tumblerinas aren't a big part of our community, if they were here they would almost definitely sperg out.
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No.14997
>>14970
>Tumblr
You mean the Snowflakes? They can't survive outside their safe spaces, how the fuck would any of them appear in this thread?
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No.15020
>>14997
>>14973
the occasional redditor passes through which isn't too terrible as long as they post a build and don't get into retarded slap fights. Tumblrinas, however, would spaghetti harder than an italian bistro on a friday evening.
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No.15027
Weird update, I don't know what exactly did he update (I should be sleeping right now and tired so I don't feel like comparing them precisely), I can only tell he added some pictures to the necromancy part and cleaned up a single ritual, will sage because small updates shouldn't bump the thread.
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No.15029
>>15027
What a fag. Puts images in the dlc but not the cyoa itself. It should be split into multiple pages nd given the visual treatment.
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No.15034
>>15029
Sounds unnecessary and wouldn't help the CYOA in any way other than visual aid for people that lack imagination. The big focus on text itself should make the CYOA a text only PDF, he makes weird decisions, I think he just likes to fuck with people.
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No.15061
>>15034
What is a CYOA but an aid for people that lack imagination? Why not make it just pictures and say "huh, just use your imagination to make up a story about them"?
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No.15064
>>15061
It's an interactive story or a set of tools for you to make a story, written aid is more useful than some pictures if the author is going to be so specific about how every spell works, though I can understand the preference for photos, I like some CYOAs only because of the great art choices.
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No.15065
>>15061
>>15064
You guys are missing the whole point. Images are required to turn it from a wall of text into something readable (remember, players are supposed to have fun, as opposed to feeling like they're doing taxes). Also, illustrating the spell makes it easier to remember and find later, as well as allows you to skim through the list quickly before you decide if there's anything worth reading in it in the first place.
…Oh, and resorting to "images only" or "text only" is unimaginative as hell. Just so you know.
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No.15066
>>15065
I still don't think it needs images, CYOAs don't have a specific way to be made, if people don't feel like reading, an image in every single spell won't change their mind, and making a text only CYOA it's not "unimaginative", the text has more effort than it takes to find shitty images to appease people that can't find paper and pencil to write down the spells that they like instead of going with the pic that catched their attention more.
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No.15067
>>15066
there's a difference between not wanting to read at all, and not wanting to read reams and reams of tiny black text which could be condensed into a series of labelled images.
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No.15068
>>15066
<not adding images takes more effort than adding images
Are you retarded?
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No.15069
>>15067
So still just text but with eye-candy.
>>15068
Yes, the text in this CYOA is already enough effort, it isn't unimaginative.
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No.15070
>>15067
Adding images when most of the rituals are too specific and crude would make it look off and inconsistent. Really, where does one find pictures of raping and disembowelling virgins and drinking the fat of children?
>>15068
Have you even read it? It's the occult. The content is highly thorough, comprehensive and detailed. There's a good investment in historical hocus pocus and realistic grit. .
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No.15076
>>15070
The picture is supposed to show the effect of the spell (as it's the whole point of casting it), not the ritual itself, you moron. Although if you plaster a big RAPE AND MURDER sign on the rituals that require those, it would save anyone who's not a complete sociopath the effort of reading that "comprehensive and detailed" content (and I suppose it would also let those who are find their fap meal more easily, so more win for you).
>There's a good investment in historical hocus pocus and realistic grit
And no one gives a damn. The only thing these descriptions would do is convince the reader he doesn't really want to do these rituals (and potentially this CYOA as well). Crazy occult fanatics usually seek their fix in the actual fiction, where all these thorough descriptions belong in the first place.
>>15069
First. Saying "not doing X takes more effort than doing X" is retarded by definition. Second. No matter how thick your wall of text is, if you couldn't be bothered to make a proper, consumable CYOA out of it, your effort was clearly nowhere near enough. If you don't know the difference between a visual and a pure textual format, you're better off on a self-publishing website where no one would care about your lack of interest in proper presentation (or at least about the lack of images).
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No.15077
>>15076
>And no one gives a damn. The only thing these descriptions would do is convince the reader he doesn't really want to do these rituals (and potentially this CYOA as well). Crazy occult fanatics usually seek their fix in the actual fiction, where all these thorough descriptions belong in the first place.
That's a pretty nice opinion there. A shame it's nothing more than an opinion, eh?
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No.15078
>>15076
You can tell what the effect is by reading it, pictures are useless and only for people that lack imagination or the simple capability to conceptualize what they read in their minds.
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No.15079
>>15078
or because you're too stuck up and pretentious to meet your audience half way
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No.15080
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No.15081
>>15079
>Everything must be given to me the way I want it
>I can't read
Which one is it?
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No.15082
>>15079
>>15080
>>15081
Just stop bumping this thread already, let the useless debate die, some like it, some do not
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No.15161
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No.15162
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No.15167
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No.15171
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No.15172
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No.15320
Author updated again. Apparently based on his group's ttrpg campaign
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No.15321
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No.15442
New update with some touches and added Thai talismanic magic (golden fetuses)
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No.15467
>>15442
Opening looks 10x more appealing, but the text wall still needs images.
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No.15468
>>15467
I think in fact he should do away with all the images in the upper part and put a single one in the center that looks fine in low quality so he has more space to add more corruptions and obligation pacts. The single image could preferably be just an inverted pentagram, something that gets to the point right away, or just a symbol associated with occultism at large.
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No.15469
>>15468
When I say center I don't mean literally in the center of course, in the center above, around the part the book section is.
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No.15470
>>15468
>>15469
It's like you want it to look worse than it is and be more hated.
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No.15474
>>15470
Not really, I mean I guess more hated since people precisely dislike the lack of pictures is true, it's more like I don't really care what they want and would rather have it look like I want. No pictures would be even better for me.
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No.15486
>>15474
Make your own version without pictures, if it's all about your personal fetishes
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No.15489
>>15442
The author really didn't skimp on the detail. Maybe a bit too crass. Yes, yes, we all know how crazy asians can be har dee har har
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No.15508
Playing this CYOA got me like
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No.15511
>>15508
I bet you think you're pretty funny
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No.15512
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No.15599
faggot could at least make it a bigger and better font. I'm gonna need a lot of alchool to read this cancer, but I will still do it because anything is better than lewd shit
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No.15859
>draw an inverted pentagram
>on the floor
0/10 was not thought through at all. Into the trash it goes.
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No.16421
Reviving an epic thread with the most updated version.
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No.16422
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No.16423
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No.16425
Finally found you
POST YOU FUCKER
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No.16426
>>16425
hey? who dis, yes I posted the update
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No.16428
>>16426
No one. I wanted to post "I found you" but the post took a few minutes to submit. Downloading images is also a struggle.
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No.16429
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No.16430
Not related to the CYOA, but note the name on this from the second pic in the OP; Edward Kelly[sic] – in the Blair Witch films, the name of the witch is Elly Kedward.
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No.16459
Quick update from last thread by the author:
- Compression is a bit less awful. Sorry for that.
- Some grimpoire-specific reshuffling in the fourth column for thematic reasons and thematic reasons only.
- Oracular Consumption has been moved up to second tier, both for its overlooked nature and a certain kind of insight.
- Talisman of Hermanubis has been moved up to third tier and for good reason – Its range has also been expanded adequately to match something otherwise missed.
Choice has been upped to six; formerly five. You have permission to forgo all six choices to double your parcel selection, if you want, but I'm leaving this unsaid
Added
- A note in a bottle.
- A holy censer.
- A few complimentary spells to accentuate certain written works.
- A ritual-slash-relic that I never did manage to throw into the fourth column of black magic proper.
- A mostly safe analysis on levitation
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No.16578
Glorious PDF edition! this time with only spells!
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No.16579
>>16578
Accidentally posted the outdated version, it's a dead board and I'm at the top but I'll sage anyway!
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No.16612
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No.16667
>>16578
oh hey someone posted it here.
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No.16695
this do be fitting in here
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