/cyoa/ - Choose Your Own Adventure

>>13961

Dayum…That's a pretty ambitious CYOA that you got on track. Got any other book beside that are related to CTE? And do you have the sauce for the ASOIAF technological uplift fanfic?

>>13963

You mean other books in the same series or other books with a similar premise? There's 6 books in the series I think, the first three deal with Conrad establishing himself, preparing for and fighting in the Mongol War, the fourth is about subjugating the Teutonic Order, the fifth describes the American colonization effort from the POV of a young Mongol War veteran (his flashbacks are literal copy-pastes from the first 3 books, funnily enough) and the final one is about Conrad going to the Middle East on vacation.

As for similar works in the same genres, 1632 has an American town put in the middle of Germany during the 30 Years War. There's apparently a whole such subgenre called ISOT for "island in the sea of time" for one of those books. I can recommend Arose From Out the Azure Main on alternatehistory.com, they've got lots of ISOTs beside that.

I don't remember what's the first ASOIAF uplift fic I read, but they're mostly self-inserts by the author. The first book of Event Horizon, Thrown into the Frey and Greyjoy alla Breve all stick out, the first and last being wackier than others. The King in the Long Night is pretty interesting, since it's a crossover with Stellaris and the uplifters are the default authoritarian human faction rather than the typical vanilla United Nations peacekeepers and Geneva Convention signatories. A Trident is Reforged is also fun to read. My guess is the setting is so popular with uplifters because

>it's such a shithole that maintaning the minimum standards of decency upheld by IRL feudal rulers is already a civilizational leap, so the protagonist has an easy start

>it presents a concrete overarching ultimate threat in the form of the Others' invasion

>the setting is big and rich, and just Westeros alone is a fun mental exercise in thinking about how to administer and nation-build on a continent-wide scale, since GRRM has no sense of scale

>>13964

Sweetness bro, thanks for the sauce

>>13964

Never expected any other readers of "Arose from out the Azure Main" here, but yes its a great ISOT story which I highly recommend to anyone who wants to learn about 1980's UK culture/politics or 18th century realpolitik.

>>13961

I would recommend that for a possible 3rd nation to start at you look towards the shattered remnants of Byzantium in the east. At the moment there are several heirs to Rome's claim in the region:

1) The Despotate of Epirus/Empire of Thessalonika led by the treacherous Doukas family (well a Komneni cadet branch) which holds most of the Greek territories in the Balkans.

2) The Empire of Trebizond which is holding on to dear life on the edge of Anatolia with the most legitimate contenders to the claim of Emperor in the form of the Komnenos dynasty.

3) The historical reuniters of Byzantium, the Nicaean Empire which is led by the Laskaris dynasty at the moment with the Palaiologus family kicking around court I imagine.

4) The Latin Empire, those crazy crusaders and their silly state is down to just the lands immediately around Constantinople

5) The Second Bulgarian Empire is a potential claimant to the title of Emperor of Rome, I mean they already called their leaders Tsar (Caesar) and they did historically try to do so.

6) Honorable mention goes to the Sultanate of Rum, what with Rum being a reference to Rome and the house of Osman eventually achieved what Rum could not and took the City of Men's Desires.

For goals you could have something like "Knock out all contenders for the title of Roman Emperor" or "Claim the City!"

As a Byzantinophile I simply must have at least some hope for a ERE revival, though as a Romanophile and fan of the Winter King mod for Ck2 I must say I love the description for Gwynedd and it's recognition of the Britons roman heritage even if its a half millenium too late to really save the lost Romanitas of most Britannia.

>>14005

Interesting. I was actually already planning to include East Rome or some other Orthodox power, since thanks to too much AoE2 as a kid I had already known things had been going to shit for them since Manzikert. As for which of the states you listed it's going to be, I'll have to research them in terms of how "upliftable" they are, by estimated population/pop density and natural resources. I'm also considering a Russian principality, maybe Galicia-Volhynia for its easy access to oil and proximity to Western civilization, the Black Sea and nomadic tribes that could be allies against the Mongols. Ideally, my ambition is to also include an Islamic power, an Indian one, an East Asian one (China and Japan would be easy mode, but I think Korea could have a goal to defend/reconquer Manchuria from the Mongols, I'd have to check when they lost it) and maybe a Buddhist or Hindu state in Malaya, but that's a tall order while I still haven't fleshed out Gwynedd or provided graphics other than the coats of arms.

>>14005

As for Britain being too far gone, if the player uplifts it, he could just wage cultural war through compulsory education, mass media and making Welsh a language useful to know; the Britons had adopted English easily enough despite the Saxons being a minority in the first place. It's not like medieval people are particularly loyal to any idea of a nation-state unless the player sells them on it.

Honestly, doing even a shitty work on paint would make it a lot easier to work.