/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

There's an old thread >>23885

Not enough time to watch it for me, so no comments.

Good goy, identify with main protagonist you self indulgent narcisist. World is just one big movie and you're the main actor, everyone else is an NPC, yes good goy. Now, when you see yourself as main actor we can do everything we want to that main actor and you will still to some level identify with him. YESSSS, don't worry, you wont get his new characteristics….no don't worry this isn't brainwashing.

yesss good goy

>>41833

I hope I pick up being knowing a lot about computers and being addicted to drugs from him

>I haz bugs, peoples has bugz, I'm like See kode and my ded father [spoiler]

cum[/spoiler] overflowd me

>I also 12347 I hax da big brodar and and and and and I wer a hoodie

Muy spiritual

What the fuck, guys, don't make fun of the OP.

I honestly identify very heavily with the main character's narrative - Wanting to do what Elliot did to Evil Corp with encrypting all their stuff ransomware was honestly the exact reason I started studying cryptography years before this show came out.

Ever since Lulzsec went under, and Anonymous was broken up by COINTELPRO, nobody trusts anyone else on the internet anymore, and the burden of creative destruction rests on the shoulders of the lone individual.

When it was coming out, I honestly couldn't believe someone had made a show like it. It honestly rubs me the wrong way a lot, because I know I'm the target audience, but I still like it.

A show like this gives people like me an outlet for their frustration, like a ceremonial defeat without actually doing anything. Instead of doing the hack ourselves, watch the TV man do it! There's all these little things I hate about it, like how they made Elliot a drug addict, making his way of seeing the world seem crazy and unstable, and likely leading the viewer to see themselves in the same light. It reminds me of all the stuff that irks me about True Detective, trying to make vices seem cool.

My personal reactions aside, it's also nice to feel less alone, and I think it probably inspired a lot of people to get into cryptography. I saw a lot of Mr. Robot shirts at Defcon, and I even torrented a new episode of it while I was there, and watched it with a random group of people all huddled around my laptop. It was pretty cool, and my personal qualms aside it's made a positive impact on the morale of hacktivists and fosspunks alike.

>>41843

>Instead of doing the hack ourselves, watch the TV man do it!

Good goy, here you go a fake penis for your wife to peg you. You dont want to be homophobic now do you?

>>41858

>I want it to go back to pseudointellectuap blogposts of skids circlejerking, thinking they matter like OP waaahhhhhh

Shut up fagget, who even cares what your emotional response is to the change of the board

Why do you guys even watch T.V. ?

>>41833

>you're the main actor, everyone else is an NPC

Well

That's true

You can't exactly think anyone else's thoughts or control their actions, you can only assume that they are capable of conscious thought and leave them to their own devices

>>41858

The /g/entoomen came.

Jesus fucking Christ, contain the autism to the thread that already exists.

>>23885

>>41833

This is a parody of /pol/, right?

Anyone who lets drugs control their life is an idiot

>>41970

Anyone who lets tech control their life is an idiot

>>41853

Because in the show he is one. I wouldn't doubt he is one off-show too. Most actors are.

>>41843

OP here, just saw this. Also I have been having a really bad time and your response was really nice to read. Thank you.

>>41843

No it really hasn't. I was at dc23 and no there weren't a bunch of Mr. Robot shirts, but a ton of tiny goatse stickers…

Anyways. The general impression I've gotten (myself and most of my dc circle of friends) is of mild ridicule. But, that's just like my opinion man. No, it's not that people don't trust each other anymore, but rather people have learned how to assemble into more inconspicuous groups. SO essentially, gone to ground. Can't speak for lulzsec, but Anonymous is still there, but good luck trying to wade through all the tryhards who slap on a guy fawkes mask and co-opt their style for their own purposes. But that is the exact reason they chose that manner of branding themselves. Now it's like finding a stack of a needles in a stack of needles. Which one is the oldfag member and who are the splinter skriptkidds that prattle around with their pineapples and rubberduckies and Hak5 stickers with semi-political dribble coming out of their mouths.

Yes, you can say I'm ornery and foul tempered. But it's kinda like Project Mayhem effect. You won't know any of the details unless you involve yourself. A level of involvement beyond fanboying for something, whether it's cyb, or a character.

Instead… do something. Don't just sit and watch.

>>42016

>I like my dick cirlejerked by people that think like me durrrr

>I dont like other people with different opinions telling me im wrong hurrrr

go back in your echo chamber faggot

continue sucking on that circumcised cock while jerking yourself off to the fantasy of being uber leetz haxor

>>42017

Good job on saying nothing you faggot

Good job on thinking that your fantasy world is real world

you uber haxor wannabe

>>42024

lel

>>41831

I identify so much with the tranny asian fuccboi near the end of season 1 so much. I'm equally a sassy bitch in real life.

>>41831

>season 1

>great

>season 2

>waiting…

>waiting…

>waiting…

>connection has dropped

>>41833

good point, we do have to watch out for this.

whenever I'm watching a good t.v. series and the whole thing suddenly goes off the rails or the characters do something inconsitent with what made me like them, I just drop the show entirely. Isntantly. and I never go back.

breaking bad did this so many times, I tried to keep watching it but hated it more and more.

>>41873

nobody/sheep watches t.v.

mr.robot is different

>>41938

think about what they are saying. don't throw away good wisdon because it sounds like /pol/

>>41938

think about what they are saying. don't throw away good wisdom because it sounds like /pol/

>>42023

>>42024

>wah wah I disagree with OP and the other posters who like OP wahhhhh Wahhhhh

HAHAHAH

>>42159

>breaking bad did this so many times

how so?

>>41833

there's nothing wrong with narcissism and with believing everyone else is an NPC

>>42247

Actually there is something literally wrong with that, so much so that there is a specific word for that wrongness. Sociopath.

>>42239

This. Plus this literally a corporate product being launched at a specific demography, like any other. Like Orange is the New Black is targeted at women and lesbians, and they lap it up. Easily and eagerly too because because there is nothing about gay female cliques and culture that says ANYthing about being wary or adverse to corporations and authority in general softly fucking with your head and your life to passively get what they want out of you.

Except OUR CULTRE IS *SUPPOSED TO BE ALL ABOUT THAT* BUT THEN OP COMES ALONG AND SEES A POORLY WRITTEN ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK FOR SKINNY WHITE ANTI-AUTHORITARIAN NERDS AND ACTUALLY FALLS FOR IT. He falls RIGHT fucking into, god fucking damn.

>>42262

THIS!!! Seriously, they took you sad attempt at a revolution and they're selling it back to you!

Fucking Cunts!!

the motive in the TV show is fairly hipster.

What they really need to do is develop a program that embeds itself into your mind and turns you into a real American.

The MrRobot is desingned to keep you docile. Fuck off with that neoliberal capitalist shit.

>>42262

Is there anything wrong with being a sociopath?

>>42408

Sociopaths are assholes, so yes.

>>42239

>Fuck it, he cries at all.

>He gets into relationships and, dear god, longs for people.

wat

>>42262

>Actually there is something literally wrong with that, so much so that there is a specific word for that wrongness. >Sociopath.

solpsism.

>>42239

>This guy cries because he is alone, instead of cherishing it. Fuck it, he cries at all.

>He gets into relationships and, dear god, longs for people.

So he's a human being.

>It means that credit cards stop working,

This got mentioned, in the short amount of time in the last episode after he did it.

>He eats drugs because corporations should not control your life, but drug dealers should.

They had kind of a big thing about him fucking over the drug dealer.

>These guys will rebound, get bailed out or others will take their place while the oldtimers rest in their lush villas.

That was also part of the season one finale, so we'll see how he reacts to that.

2nd season premiere was ok. got away with like 4 or 5 uncensored "fucks" on basic cable tv, which i feel like is a first.

I don't view it as supposedly revolutionary or possessing some kind of altruistic underlying message. I mean it's basically just a slightly updated fight club for disaffected millenials instead of gen-xers but it's a decent little tech thriller.

>>42513

>I don't view it as supposedly revolutionary or possessing some kind of altruistic underlying message.

I don't think anybody is holding it up as some kind of holy writ; it's a fun tv show with some cool tech stuff in it. In that vein, it can serve basically the same inspirational purpose that, say, the movie War Games, does. Which is to say, it's something I can watch when I don't feel like doing anything, and it might get me in the mood to learn a new language, work on a project, or just practice.

>>42262

>Actually there is something literally wrong with that, so much so that there is a specific word for that wrongness. Sociopath.

WTF are you on about? Whose eyes except your own do you see out of? Everyone else *IS* an NPC compared to you (from your perspective as an individual). And it's the same for everyone. I am one person only and everyone else is not me. I treat them with respect because I choose to. Same with dogs. I'm not a dog–from my perspective dogs are NPCs–but I still treat them well. Being an individual doesn't make you a sociopath.

>>42432

You seem to be a sociopath

>>42267

>the motive in the TV show is fairly hipster.

That's true, all these people have debt because they bought stuff they couldn't pay for. It's kinda our own fault we're up to our eyeballs in debt.

well, it's also the bankers' fault for demanding unreasonably massive interest payments on everything

>top hacker

>uses closed-source adware ridden

torrent client

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

They did it boys, they put "Hack the world" into the series. It's just under a sentence but it's there, the series can be over now.

>>42239

>His way of sticking it to the man (who is, apparently, evil for evilness sake) involves deleting everyone's debt records. Because that would only hurt banks, right? Wrong. It means that credit cards stop working, small businesses loose access to cheap loans. That brings down purchasing power and leads to soaring prices and shitnormous layoffs.

This part is relevant, observe countries that went through an economic collapse because suddenly all debt was either wiped out, pardoned by populists or just deemed junk because nobody would pay

Then you have a country like greece which went from first world to total chaotic shithole with people dying from simple cancers because even hospitals can't afford the meds

People who reduce all problems to "muh debt" tend to be whiny shits who buy stupid crap and can't pay their CC bill, they don't understand shit about economics

>That last part also brings with it a crimewave of epic proportions

Indeed, just look at fucking bitcoin: every single motherfucker involved is a shady scammer

That exchange that just got 70 million stolen from them? nobody knows who the fucking CEO is, there isn't even a picture, the CFO was a scam artist that went to jail in italy and the company (bitfinex) operates in hong kong but has its bank in taiwan, its servers in italy and is incorporated in some shitty backwater tax heaven islands

And that's just the last of too-many-to-remember bitcoin companies that suddenly go to shit/get "hacked" and all the brouzouf disappears

And people then bitches about banks….

The second season is really great, for the ones who dropped due to the childish ending of the first season. It's as if they changed directors, it feels really fresh.

what the fuck was that bullshit in ep5 supposed to be?

linking DPR and darknet markets to cp and hitmen, what the fuck?

maybe i just did take it too seriously, and they just wanted to show that the black guy is a complete moron, calling himself DPR with underscores and thinking that people will buy drugs on a website that offers cp and hitmen, but to me this looks like FUD and propaganda so people forget how unlawful the SR1 takedown was and that the whole hitman thing was just made up and not even mentioned in court.

>>42239

You're nearly as much of an edgy shazbot as the OP.

>>42239

>And seriosly, stop looking for COINTELPRO everywhere. These guys exist, yes, but to attract them you need to present, you know, a genuine threat. Or at least speak arabic.

LOL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cointelpro

also it helps to have a look at page two of google search results:

>It's recently been revealed that the U.S. government contracted HBGary Federal for the development of software which could create multiple fake social media profiles to manipulate and sway public opinion on controversial issues by promoting propaganda.

>According to an embedded MS Word document found in one of the HBGary emails, it involves creating an army of sockpuppets, with sophisticated "persona management" software that allows a small team of only a few people to appear to be many, while keeping the personas from accidentally cross-contaminating each other. Then, to top it off, the team can actually automate some functions so one persona can appear to be an entire Brooks Brothers riot online.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/feb/07/anonymous-attacks-us-security-company-hbgary

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/2/16/945768/-

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2470594/endpoint-security/army-of-fake-social-media-friends-to-promote-propaganda.html

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110209/22340513034/leaked-hbgary-documents-show-plan-to-spread-wikileaks-propaganda-bofa-attack-glenn-greenwald.shtml

>>43101 continued

>The company was targeted after Barr was quoted in the Financial Times saying that he had identified two key members of Anonymous, including a co-founder in the US, and senior members in Britain, Germany, the Netherlands, Italy and Australia. He said he had picked up clues about their identities via online sources such as email, Facebook and Internet Relay Chat (IRC).

If you watch some adam curtis you will find out that those guys are completely insane.

Watch The Power of Nightmares, pay attention to the parts about sleeper cells in USA, Project MKUltra and especially the "Team A and Team B" story. Or read about it on wikipedia, but it's not quite as funny there.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/feb/07/anonymous-attacks-us-security-company-hbgary

one more, the "backdoor" in LOIC:

>The code to be added was an HTTP beacon that linked to a free website Barr had set up on Blogspot. He wanted a copy of the altered source and a compiled executable. His programmer, fearing Anonymous, balked.

>On January 20, the coder wrote back, “I’m not compiling that shit on my box!” He even refused to grab a copy of the source code from message boards or other IRC users, because “I ain’t touchin’ any of that shit as those are already monitored.”

>“Dude,” responded Barr. “Anonymous is a reckless organization. C’mon I know u and I both understand and believe generally in their principles but they are not a focused and considerate group, the[y] attack at will and do not care of their effects. Do u actually like this group?”

>The coder said he didn’t support all they did, but that Anonymous had its moments. Besides, “I enjoy the LULZ.”

https://www.wired.com/2011/02/anonymous/

I enjoy the show unironically, and recognize that it is just a show, and that I'm not actually sticking it to The Man by watching it.

But I damn well will watch it because I enjoyed S1 and appreciate the attention to detail.

no idea how i fucked up adding this highly relevant link, but there you go:

>It wanted 50 software licenses, each of which could support 10 personas, "replete with background, history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographically consistent."

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2011/02/black-ops-how-hbgary-wrote-backdoors-and-rootkits-for-the-government/4/

so, back on topic:

was the bullshit about the child porn assassination drug site just part of elliot's imagination or is the show really that bad?

after watching today's episode:

ok so they actually did forget the video tape there.

allegedly non-retarded people not only record their face on camera even though everyone knows how easily such accidents can happen, but instead of immediately deleting the video tape or packing it into a bag they actually forget it.

if this show doesn't start to make sense in the next episode i'm gonna quit watching.

The ending felt a bit rushed with tyrell showing up out of nowhere, his cunt of a wife getting rekt on purpose to further ruin that guy's life, elliot going bananas thinking tyrell was an illusion as well but the worst part was when the fat guy and the arab chick get a visit from the magical negro ninja who was supposed to be still in jail. First of if you gonna run why would you keep your appearance still intact? that fat guy should have at least get a haircut and ditch the beard, and the arab girl while she wasn't using her burka could have died her hair or cut it short, whatever. Also if you are being chased by an international criminal organization you don't fucking work 9-5 at fry's, you stay holed up in an apartment and do anonymous web jobs to stay low.

Anyway, and what with elliot's childhood friend (you know the forgettable blond chick, cant remember her name) going from "I'm gonna talk to the feds!" to being so integral to the group that she actually talks to tyrell/white rose at the end about elliot not being dead after getting shot at like a fag?

>>42947

The problem with the first season was the fight club ending ripoff, the rest was okay and even above average compared to other series today.

>>43077

Dude they are a tv show, they cant go as far as supporting an anarcho-capitalist like pirate roberts, I'm actually surprised they are able to say half the shit they do on air without someone calling in and ordering the script be changed

>>43101

Funny seeing the guardian and kos among those links given that they pull the same shit constantly for certain groups and corporations

Guess is only bad when the evul yankee guvmint does it…

>>43102

>>43103

>>43375

>all these 2011 links

Funny how a year later the sjws descended on tech and then two years after that gamergate started and the cunts managed to create a total media blackout while imposing a one-way narrative while silencing users all over the place

In hindsight its all pretty obvious to me

>>43408

I guess they used an old ass analog vhs cam because they knew it would be way more difficult to trace it? I mean it has no metadata

>>43771

I agree, I am very disappointed with season 2. Especially the finale.

On retrospective, it really wasn't *that* insubstantial, but why did it feel like that?

No big hax seemed to be pulled oh, yeah, the FBI hack however there wasn't much of a follow up.

No significant plot-twists but the elliot being in the slammer the whole time, which just explains why nothing at all happened half of the season, not much tension Besides the FBI closing in on them, and when Agent Dom finds Darlene and his bf, probably one of the few good parts, Tyrell was fucking absent from the whole show, one of the main characters throughout is fucking not there at all.

I think it mostly has to do with the fact that there was almost no character development, and the whole plot was inmersed in ellipsis.

I actually did like the development of Angela Moss in this season, really the only thing that caught my interest. her interview with WR and her sudden involvement in the plan, Esmail should drop the Elliot and Tyrell characters in favor of her, make her the new leader

>>43782

>Drop elliot and tyrell

>Make the boring corpcunt who can't act outside of her signature blank stares the main character instead

She basically was for half the season, and it was fucking awful

The show would go into the garbage so fast they would still be wondering why ratings dropped off years after being canceled

You have shit taste

>>41831

Season 1 was fanfuckintastic imo. Almost every episode was not only right up my alley as far as film and real-world interests go, but they always had that one scene or that one cliffhanger that made you go "holy shit" when the credits started rolling. I love shows like that, Breaking Bad being similar in that regard. I also adore the scenes that challenge real-world society and corporations, which had the same vibe as Fight Club and Uwe Boll's Rampage movies. By the way, if you love these mechanics in Mr. Robot, you'll love Uwe Boll's Rampage movies, not to be confused with the older, unrelated Rampage movies.

Anyway, Season 2 is still good, but not nearly as good as Season 1. Yes, they took away focus on Elliot and Tyrell, which is quite sad seeing as how they're the most interesting characters, but I still have high hopes for Season 3, which is currently in production.

Some of the reasons they do things in this show are stupid.

I disagree in several important ways.

But this show did make me re-examine my life and put a fire in me to do more than I was doing with myself.

>>44126

I feel ya. And it probably would have done the same for me as well, if Breaking Bad didn't already do that for me since I saw that first. In fact, the two shows have a lot of similarities as far as characters, vibe, cliffhangers etc., goes. Though I thought BB had superior acting and camera work.