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File: 793334614720327⋯.jpg (49.39 KB,627x474,209:158,060505_hiv_virus_02.jpg)

 No.384156

So I heard it's legal in California to knowingly infect someone with HIV for the purpose of killing them.

This (what I consider murder) was made legal by a lgbt politician who is infected and on Truvada as post-infection, not pre.

I'm wondering now whether the politician was paid by the Big Pharma behind Truvada as PREP (Gilead Sciences) to actually decriminalize HIV infection – or worse – The PREP makers threatened to withhold the drug Truvada from the politician, if he didn't make intentional HIV transmission decriminalized.

The simple existence of this law means anyone intending to be sexually active in California now has to buy PREP and drink Truvada like water.

I know it sounds crazy, but think of the profits. Because Gilead Sciences sure is.

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 No.384163

>>384156

Should I just give up on being gay and live the asexual meme at this point? Every day I get reminded of things like this and it makes me even more depressed and hopeless for the future. I feel like everything is going to lead to HIV eventually. Even if you're 100% monogamous, cheating is so common that it's only a matter of time, and 1 in 4 new HIV infections happen while in a relationship.

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 No.384179

>>384163

If someone infects me I'm putting a bullet in him. At least he'll stop infecting others.

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 No.384551

For a time, willfully infecting someone with HIV was a felony under California law, while doing so with literally anything else (even, like, anthrax or ebola or any number of also-fatal diseases) were misdemeanors. This was a clear violation of Constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment. So it was changed so it's now only a misdemeanor, like everything else.

Everything else is complete bullshit. Don't ever take anything /pol/ says seriously; just like their patron saint Trump, every single word out of their mouths is a complete lie that sounds just possible enough that people buy it if they're already brainwashed, you know… if they don't bother to take five motherfucking seconds to google it themselves (like what you should have done before making a thread, you dumb fuck). Just like all those "statistics" about niggers and IQ and crime and everything; just like all the "studies" about how climate change is a hoax and circumcision is good for you; just like all the graphs and charts and cherry-picked tumblr posts "proving" that being gay and/or trans is horrible — all complete lies.

>anyone intending to be sexually active in California

Oh yes, because nobody ever enters or leaves CA due to that huge wall Trump built around the state, you only need to worry about it there. Dumb fuck.

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 No.384556

You shouldn't make threads without checking if the things you write about are actually true.

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 No.384630

>>384551

I'd like to point out you're taking up the polar opposite ideological position from /pol/ which sounds equally as retarded. It also would have made more sense to criminalize knowingly infecting/poisoning someone with Ebola/anthrax instead of labeling them all misdemeanors, how that's even remotely reasonable makes no fucking sense at all.

Knowingly and willfully destroying someones health for the rest of their life shouldn't be a misdemeanor slap on the wrist.

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 No.384633

>>384551

>unironically defending giving people fucking HIV

The punishment should have been made even more severe you absolute fucking degenerate.

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 No.384643

>>384551

<the correct move was to move infecting someone with AIDs a Midemeanor guys, not making all the other one's a felony, duh

>Oh yes, because nobody ever enters or leaves CA due to that huge wall Trump built around the state, you only need to worry about it there. Dumb fuck.

At least in other states I can get that fucker charged in other states with attempted murder or assault and battery even if they don't have specific laws about HIV

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 No.384711

>>384630

>>384633

>>384643

None of you understand law at all. The misdemeanor is the CRIMINAL penalty, meaning what the state charges you for the commission of the crime. But if someone knowingly infects another person with something, especially a terminal disease, they will get their ass handed to them in CIVIL court, after being sued by the victim themselves. And yes, you retard, there is also nothing stopping them from being charged with assault and battery, or even attempted murder. In ANY state. California is no different.

Actually, strike that; California is SORTA different. Here's an interesting fact for you:

Many states don't have ANY specific criminal penalty for knowingly transmitting HIV to someone through sexual contact. If you're going to bitch at CA for only having it be a misdemeanor, you should be even angrier at Connecticut, DC, Florida, Maine, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

Oh, but you didn't KNOW that, did you? You didn't even conceive it could be true that other states could be even worse with this issue than evil horrible liberal faggot California, did you?

Only one google search away, but you'd rather just suck down whatever bullshit /pol/ and the GOP shoves down your throat, no questions asked. Now who's the one with an "agenda"? And once you're done extracting your foot from the ten inches it's shoved down your throat, you can kiss my faggot ass and call me teacher, because I just took you to fucking school.

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 No.384741

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>These conservative leaning states are bad too, see you're conservative because I claimed you visit /pol/, your team I just assigned you is bad too that means my team is better hahaha REKT LOL

I guess I'll go spend 8+ hours researching the fucking laws country wide and then make my point but the argument was they reduced the already existing penalty on a state level. California is still a shit hole for a myriad of reasons, no matter how bad it's shit hole cousins are on other issues by the way, you insufferable partisan cunt.

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 No.384742

>>384741

>>384741

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idk what is wrong with this board right now

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 No.384759

>>384741

>Many other states are demonstrably worse about this exact issue

>B-b-but CALIFORNIA!!

Just like a Trumptard deflecting any criticism of the man by talking about Hillary's e-mails again. You're pathetic. Just pathetic.

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 No.384763

>>384759

>making an active decision to REDUCE the punishment for it is somehow better than not having defined any laws about it yet

Do you people actively try to be as retarded as possible?

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 No.384766

>>384759

You people are so absolutely enraged about Trump that you'd rather support a law that makes it more 'lax if you intentionally spread AIDS just because it's supposedly a liberal flag. How progressive of you to support the spread of AIDS and the stigma that comes with it ("all gays have AIDS" and such).

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 No.384811

>>384763

You're right. Punishments should never be reduced, only increased. In fact, the punishment for ever crime, instead of fitting it, should just be increased to the death penalty. End up weeding out a lot of shitty people, especially when the SJWs take over the country and make everything a "hate crime". Can't wait for that.

>>384766

>The only reason people don't do evil things is because they are afraid of the criminal penalty

If you have such a low opinion of humanity, why don't you make yourself and example an off yourself?

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 No.384839

>>384551

>

>

>For a time, willfully infecting someone with HIV was a felony under California law, while doing so with literally anything else (even, like, anthrax or ebola or any number of also-fatal diseases) were misdemeanors. This was a clear violation of Constitutional protections against cruel and unusual punishment. So it was changed so it's now only a misdemeanor, like everything else.

The appropriate thing to do there is make infecting someone willfully with ebola a felony. Not the opposite and just decriminalize murder.

This is fucking insane.

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 No.384842

>>384839

Again, that would unconstitutional, unless they changed the law for EVERYTHING. Do you have any idea how impossible it is to get such sweeping changes passed? How much time? How much paperwork? How many debates and votes and conventions and meetings and re-votes and polls and ballot measures? What, does your dumb ass think all they need to do in order to change a hundred laws is dig up the paperwork, wite-out where it says "misdemeanor" and scribble in "felony"??

The government is absolutely clogged with about twenty layers of bureaucracy, which is in some ways good because it (usually) prevents laws from getting passed on a whim over mob mentality. But for everything else, even if there is predominantly public support, it's obstructionist. Either way, you would NOT want to live in a country where laws can get changed overnight.

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 No.384844

>>384811

That is such a ridiculous comparison.

>>384842

>Again, that would unconstitutional

No, I don't think so.

>unless they changed the law for EVERYTHING

Everything related to deliberately affecting people with a disease that can destroy their life? Yeah they probably should have done that.

>Do you have any idea how impossible it is to get such sweeping changes passed? How much time? How much paperwork?

So you're saying because it's hard to make laws about things that should definitely be punished, the correct course of action is to just give up and reduce the penalty for one instance of it, that way no one will expect you to worry about the other fucked up things?

The rest of your post is idiotic rambling that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.

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 No.384882

>>384844

No, I'm saying you're a naive retard who has no idea how actual laws or lawmaking processes work, has knee-jerk emotional reactions over shit that will never affect him, constantly thinks in terms of good vs. evil like a child, and wants the government to police his entire life because he can't manage himself.

Isn't it amazing how states where there is the actual death penalty for some crimes nonetheless don't stop those crimes from happening hundreds of times per day?

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 No.384904

>>384882

>durrrrr you can't stop it so just make it legal that way we don't look bad for not stopping it ;P

Why do liberals always have this retarded mentality? It goes hand in hand with your weak wills I guess.

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 No.384907

>>384904

>durrrrr you can't stop it so just make it legal that way we don't look bad for not stopping it

You mean like how conservatives throw their hands up about stopping school shootings, and think just giving EVERYONE guns will surely help?

Oh, and by the way, the liberals don't control anything right now. Not a single branch of government. So for the last two years, EVERYTHING that has happened in this country is entirely on you guys. Why don't you try blaming Obama again, or deflecting to Hillary's emails?

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 No.384924

>>384907

Except gun ownership is a right. That's a pretty big difference. Do you see infecting other people with AIDS as a right?

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 No.384932

File: 847f4ed5610c2dd⋯.jpg (15.18 KB,244x185,244:185,grouchy.jpg)

I actually agree with the anon supporting the relaxation of the penalty, but he's so condescending about it that I want to slap him

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 No.384976

>>384924

Sure gun ownership is a right. I never said it wasn't. But the reluctance to even ATTEMPT preventing children from being murdered is what I was talking about. There wouldn't be anything unconstitutional about it, if the government suddenly decided nobody can own anything except one semi-auto pistol with magazines less than 20 rounds, or a single bolt-action hunting rifle. This is an extreme example, and it would end basically every single mass-shooting ever. The whole "b-but criminals would still be able to get guns!" argument is wrong, because "criminals" don't commit mass-shootings. They rob and steal and have their little gang wars, but they don't walk into schools or concerts and try to kill a hundred people; there is no profit in it for them.

I'm also kinda wondering how all the niggers in European countries don't go around murdering everyone, though. How can you call it a racial thing when it's only the American niggers?

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 No.385000

>>384976

>because "criminals" don't commit mass-shootings

if they're doing a mass shooting, they're "criminals"

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 No.385002

>>384811

>If you have such a low opinion of humanity, why don't you make yourself and example an off yourself?

Says the faggot who supports pozing people.

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 No.385026

>>384976

>But the reluctance to even ATTEMPT preventing children from being murdered

But we do attempt that. Your comparisons are so fucking retarded. The punishments for mass murder tend to be pretty fuckin high. Generally, once you're arrested after killing some kiddies, you're not getting out. Ever. A more accurate comparison would be that banning guns is the same as banning AIDS itself. Willfully infecting someone with AIDS is better compared to willfully shooting someone in the face. Neither should be legal or taken lightly.

>There wouldn't be anything unconstitutional about it, if the government suddenly decided nobody can own anything except one semi-auto pistol with magazines less than 20 rounds, or a single bolt-action hunting rifle.

Oh god, yes there fucking would be everything unconstitutional about that. This bullshit you're proposing is even more retarded than the current trend of banning anything that looks scary. The government is going to have to take my guns from my cold dead hands if they're going to try to pull that shit, and I know there are PLENTY of Americans who feel the same.

>and it would end basically every single mass-shooting ever.

No. It wouldn't.

>The whole "b-but criminals would still be able to get guns!" argument is wrong

It's not.

>because "criminals" don't commit mass-shootings

Are you being serious?

>I'm also kinda wondering how all the niggers in European countries don't go around murdering everyone, though.

Probably because there's approximately several orders of fuckloads less of them in Europe.

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 No.385065

>>385026

>But we do attempt that

How? Arming teachers is a fucking joke. I can't WAIT for when a teacher perpetrates a school shooting and you all run around like retards trying to figure out why that is.

>The government is going to have to take my guns from my cold dead hands

And that's the problem. That is EVERY problem with this worthless piece of shit country. Everyone is more concerned with their precious personal liberties, their "rights", than any semblance of the public good. You'd rather sit idly by and watch hundreds of kids get slaughtered than give up your guns. How do you even live with yourself, knowing you're such a selfish bastard?

>there's approximately several orders of fuckloads less of them in Europe.

1.) There's not.

2.) Even if there was, what does that matter? You saying black people only become evil when you collect enough of them in the same place? What a pathetic retard you are.

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 No.385067

He's also Jewish. Really gets those neurons firing. Stay safe, Calanons.

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 No.385077

>>385065

>How?

Usually by killing them.

>hurr durr while do you value your freedom and rights durrrrrr just give them up and live in a police state!!

>1.) There's not.

Pretty sure there is.

>You saying black people only become evil when you collect enough of them in the same place?

No, I'm saying when there's a shitload less of them, then obviously they're going to be committing a shitload less crime. As in the percentage of crimes done by them. I don't really know how this is even relevant to the discussion.

>this worthless piece of shit country.

You can get the fuck out any time you want.

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 No.385088

>>385077

>Killing a shooter after they've finished shooting prevents shootings

Is this nigga serious?

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 No.385104

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>>385065

>Europe has in anyway a comparable Nigger population to the US

Why am I so surprised a gun grabber is ignorant of this? I'm sure that the 12.6% of the population that's African in America is the same as the 3.2% that are in any part of Europe (feel free to choose a country so you get a more accurate estimate faggot)

Sounds like the same cunt trying to push trannies as being normal and okay on this board that was in the Gay son/daughter thread

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 No.385112

>>385088

It stops them and prevents them from doing more.

>the liberal actually wants to arrest people for thought crimes

As expected.

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 No.385114

>>385104

Look, you dumb motherfucker. Conservatives say that the reason there is so much gun violence in the USA is because black people commit more crimes PER CAPITA. That means that it doesn't matter if you have one nigger or one million of them, you'll get more crime than a comparable number of whites. They have charts and fancy infographics and shit that "prove" this. Therefore, whether you have an equal number of them in Europe, or not, makes no difference; you'd still get MORE CRIME committed by blacks than whites, over there as well. But that doesn't happen. The only place it happens is in America, so the only possible conclusion is the "racial" basis for gun crimes is incorrect. The reason there is a lot of gun violence in America can't be because of black people unless black people are committing gun violence in other countries, too. After all, if gun restrictions can't prevent criminals from getting guns over here, then why are they preventing them from getting guns over there?

>>385112

So your solution is what then? Wait for a hundred-thousand more mass-shootings to take place, so all the mass-shooters can be weeded out of the population…? What's your grand master plan for what happens if more mass-shooters are born (and acquire guns) in the time that takes to happen? More shrugging of your shoulders and muttering about muh rights?

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 No.385120

>>385114

If you weren't a retard you'd be aware that countries like France (one of the largest black populations in Europe) don't document crime by ethnicity, you're claiming they do less crime when they're are no facts to prove your statement. At best, you can find a study citing that 60-70% of criminals in jail are Muslim but it's up to the EU to actually publish stats on crime by ethnicity. Hmmm I wonder why such a progressive country would avoid studying such things… Must just be a (((coincidence))). Let's look at Britain, because at least have information, but what do we have here.

>Blacks while being only 2.7% of the general population but take up 13.7% of the prison population

And for inner city problems, street crimes were found to be over half comitted by blacks. It's almost as if blacks due commit a disproportionate amount of crime no matter how few there are, and if blacks have access to guns that they drive up the statistics. Don't tell any liberal news agency that most "mass shootings" are niggers shooting at least 5 other niggers, it's much better to start kvetching and hyper-glamorizing School Shooters when you should be really be dealing where most of the mass shootings take place. Where niggers live.

Source if you want stats on British crime statistics https://www.justice.gov.uk/downloads/statistics/mojstats/stats-race-cjs-2010.pdf , and archive for article on street crime https://archive.fo/GTJEZ

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 No.385132

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>>385114

>it's the underage r/socialism tranny faggot imparts us with his brainlet takes episode

>acting like such a pearl clutching cuck even soccer moms would tell him to tone it the fuck down

I hope you catch a bullet from the next school shooter and that it somehow manages to reach your spinal cord to cripple you enough for doctors to not pull the plug outright but painful enough for you to suffer an endless agony for years till you die of old age lmao

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 No.385175

>>385120

>France doesn't document crime by ethnicity

>This means that black people there are DEFINITELY COMMITTING TONS OF CRIME, but we just don't know about it

Retard, thy name is confirmation bias.

>We shouldn't care about school shootings because there's some gang niggers shooting each other in, so let me deflect to that issue to avoid responsibility over the other one

So you have no solution for the white kids getting murdered by white crazies with guns. Just fucking admit it.

>>385132

>Waaah, waaaah, waaaaaaahhhhh!

Am I supposed to be impressed?

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 No.385193

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>>385175

>Waaah, waaaah, waaaaaaahhhhh!

That's you this entire thread lmao

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 No.385325

>>385193

>sony indextron projector

that's a very rare and specific projector to just be telling someone they're projecting.

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 No.385330

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>>385175

>So you have no solution for the white kids getting murdered by white crazies with guns. Just fucking admit it.

he said to focus on the bigger problem but sure, if you unironically think niggers dont commit more crime just fuck off back to reddit why are you even here?

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 No.385333

>>385175

>can't dispute the fact that even Britain the land of no guns, no knives and no spoons without a license has nigger problems

>attacks the fact that the French can't record routine information most other countries do

/lefypol/ at it again I see.

>So you have no solution for the white kids getting murdered by white crazies with guns. Just fucking admit it.

I don't need to, is the goal "prevent more mass shootings"? Then eliminating niggers does that substantially. Is the goal "less mass shootings that are an incredibly rare comparatively that are only covered by news because of kneejerk emotional reaction and the fact they are exceptional"? How about we stop glamorizing the shooters, making them famous as evil masterminds that must be stopped at all costs and stop pumping their ego up with inflammatory news coverage? Have you ever wondered what are the psychological causes of someone wanting to commit such an act and if we should be doing more to support the mental health system?

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 No.385364

>>385175

>you have solution for stopping bad people from doing bad things???

>wow, just admit you're failing to make the world perfect with literally nothing negative happening already!

People like you are why the "ban all cars" and such memes exist.

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 No.406957

>>385175

threadly reminder that Hillary's emails show her friendship with brutal pedophiles and all liberals will be discreted by 2024 you insufferable retard.

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 No.406958

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>>385330

you mind if I add you ?

Classical_NAT/AM#6376

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 No.406961

>>384156

It’s not legal. It was a 3 felony and now it’s a misdemeanor. You can still be sued for millions of dollars for knowingly infecting someone.

Read the bill. It’s actually pretty interesting.

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