No.353056 [Last50 Posts]
Lots of people, especially conservatives don't seem to really understand why some Transsexuals want to transition. Why can't they just be fine as "feminine guys"? Why do they have to be seen as Women?
I think I figured something out about the core nature of the West and out attitude to sexuality. You see even now with tolerance of LGBT people in the West you can see something. I think at the core, at it's very core the West is sexually prude. And yes that has nothing to do with whether you are conservative, liberal or whatever. That is much older than that. It started about 200 years ago, when the term homosexuality first came into use and was later picked up by psychologists and turned into neat definitions.
Look at the definitions we have relating to sexuality. It's all about the WHO. Homosexuality. WHO are you? A man. WHO do you want to do it with? Other men. Bisexuality? Both!
Most people don't know this and get very confused, when they for example find out Alexander had a male lover. (d-does t-that m-m-mean he is g-gay???) For most of human history, in Antiquity, in muslim socities even today, It was not a matter of WHO you want to fuck, like today in the west it is. It was question about WHAT you want to do. WHAT gets you off, what positions do you want to do it in, top or bottom? This is getting very confusing to probably some modern people, but masculine men who took the position of the top were lumped in together with the rest of heterosexual men. They also often had wives. To someone who thinks that every gay act brands someone forever as gay and convinently puts him in the LGBT box, so that he can think of them as something seperate, this must be downright disturbing.
Guess what kind of photographic proof you have to show to the Turkish Military to proof that you are "gay"? Let's just say it's not a question about WHO, but a question of WHAT.
I don't think the following applies to every kind of Transsexual Person, but I believe it applies to at least some. Because if we only ever talk about the WHO and let it literally become a core identity of ourselves. Just look at how shocking it is to some guys to even think about doing something "gay", that isn't gay sex at all. Like just hugging another guy. Because again in the WEST it's not about WHAT you do, it's about WHO you want to do it with. But the WHO also applies to ourselves. WHO are you? It's really no wonder that some guys want to be seen as LITERAL REAL Women in a culture with such a repressed and prude view of sexuality. There are probably lots of stories about some boy who tells his family that he feels like a girl. In our weird cultural intepretation of this message to us, we immideatly jump to the conclusion that he is transsexual, because we only consider the WHO, not the WHAT.
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No.353058
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No.353060
>>353058
No! The WHO, god dammit!
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No.353061
Cool story man.
Why don't you go tell it to people who care about trannies. This is a board for boys in case you didn't notice.
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No.353063
>>353061
But I also talked about sexuality. Not just transsexualism.
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No.353071
>>353060
The Who is a pretty good band, quality tastes m80
So basically you're blaming the tranny fad in the west on society turning sexually prude, because before then it was "top" and "bottom" not "man" and "woman"
If that's what your ~2 page essay boils down to, I suppose I'd agree. Most gays realize that attraction isn't a black and white thing. I mean, try to find a guy who is exclusively attracted to other guys, or exclusively to other girls with no exceptions. You can't. So if everyone's at least a little bi, then what the fuck are all these labels for?
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No.353074
>>353063
Upon reflection you are right. I apologize. Please proceed with your analysis.
What do you think about the concept of gay as something you do rather than something you are. I've discussed this with a few people from the Arab world, and the general consensus over there seems to be that gay is an action, and more specifically only a receptive one. Apparently over there you can sort of devour another man's masculinity by having him adopt a submissive role. You are then seen as just taking advantage of some fag. Apparently a lot of people consider this a bad habit, almost like we would smoking.
I think your presentation of what homosexuality was or was not in western antiquity is too generalized to be accurate. I suggest you compare the opinions found in Plato's Phaedrus, and opinions of the emperor Claudius and his contemporaries. Also see the evolution of the age old debate on if Achilles and Patroclus fugged, and if so who was the passive one.
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No.353075
>>353056
I contributed a lot to this thread on /b/. I just want you guys to read up too. I 100% agree with OP btw.
>>7264752 on /b/
In regards to a man getting another man to mutilate his dick by chopping it off to "escape his body"
>>7262972 on /b/
"Hm.. I think i understand now.
He liked wearing women's clothes in erotic or sexual situations. His wife was fine with it for a while then suddenly told him he's a girl in a man's body because women jump straight to transsexualism and refuse to even consider homosexuality. He decided hey maybe i am because his wife kept telling him this so he was all like i'm gonna buy surgery. It doesn't need to be professionally done (where certain parts remain and if you so choose you could probably get a somewhat-functioning penis back if you change your mind), if i really am a woman then the vagina will just form because of my high estrogen levels and my female soul or some shit. Then this happens. Have you ever seen ftm trannies on, say, youtube or whatever explaining why they decided they wanted to be male and when they "realized they were trapped in the wrong body"??? First it's all "i liked to steal my brother's clothes" and "i broke gender barriers all the time". Then they grow up their parents say "if you wanna be a boy we'll pay for the surgery". Their parents never consider homosexuality an option. They think "i like wearing boys clothes and like dating other girls, i'm probably a boy like my parents say!" then it's off to surgery. Never is gayness an option to them, nooooo…. You HAVE TO BE THE OPPOSITE SEX TO LIKE THE SAME SEX smh. What's wrong with KEEPING YOUR GENITALS AND CROSSDRESSING AND BEING GAY! Jesus."
This is what i've been saying all along. I'm no psychologist, but i still notice trends among certain people. They never consider being gay, because in most ways society still doesn't like homosexuality. Even while speaking to liberals, the most "tolerant" people of all, you'll still hear "faggot" thrown around at right-wing people eventually. This is likely because most people look at homophobes as closet gays, but that's not the point. The point is transsexuality and self-mutilation are much more accepted within modern society than homosexuality. This is, in every way, absolutely retarded, as any sane person would know that self-mutilation in the hopes of getting a better body (look at anorexic girls cutting off body fat) is a completely insane idea!
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No.353076
>>353075
>>7264752 on /b/
You know, native americans had a different conception of gender. Certain tribes actually had 4 instead of 2, all 4 of which actually make sense. Here it is, in order of best to worst;
>Masculine man
>Feminine man
>Feminine woman
>Masculine woman
I don't see a need for 49 genders, and i certainly don't see a reason for disgusting trannies to exist, with this concept of gender here. This seems like gender from the perspective of common sense.
What if people simply followed these rules instead of the degenerate shit we have now?
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No.353077
>>353076
>>7264859 on /b/
"I think that if that becane the normal system, people would be less pressured to become a woman. Words are powerful in the mind, if a person only ever hears the word "man" and "woman", but they don't fit those categories and there is nothing in between to describe them, they'll default to wanting to become a tranny. It's that simple.
I think i'm actually a pretty feminine guy. Not that it matters, i'll probably never fall in love with anyone or like anyone sexually again, but yeah."
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No.353078
>>353077
>>7264941 on /b/
"Homosexuality has existed ever since gay rape was invented and some poor dude ended up liking it. As for more discussion, i want to know what other people think of what i've said so far as a whole. I suggested there be four genders to describe different types of people accurately (masculine/feminine men, masculine/feminine women), i gave my theory that trannies simply do not understand their own homosexuality and decide the best course of action is to get a surgery to change their sex, which is biologically impossible. What are your thoughts anon?"
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No.353079
>>353074
>I think your presentation of what homosexuality was or was not in western antiquity is too generalized to be accurate.
Of course, you are right. This was not about them, but about us, about how we as the West see sexuality now.
I wanted to list some examples, because only when we look to others, we notice things we do differently and our own cultural biases at work.
>What do you think about the concept of gay as something you do rather than something you are.
I think this is much more grounded in reality and has a biological connection rather than the very artifical and sterile definition we use.
>You are then seen as just taking advantage of some fag. Apparently a lot of people consider this a bad habit, almost like we would smoking.
Yeah. That is milder than how the West saw it during the middle ages and part of the modern era. It's sodomy! A sin and perversion. They saw lots of sexual practices as that.
>>353075
>He liked wearing women's clothes in erotic or sexual situations. His wife was fine with it for a while then suddenly told him he's a girl in a man's body because women jump straight to transsexualism and refuse to even consider homosexuality. He decided hey maybe i am because his wife kept telling him this so he was all like i'm gonna buy surgery. It doesn't need to be professionally done (where certain parts remain and if you so choose you could probably get a somewhat-functioning penis back if you change your mind), if i really am a woman then the vagina will just form because of my high estrogen levels and my female soul or some shit. Then this happens. Have you ever seen ftm trannies on, say, youtube or whatever explaining why they decided they wanted to be male and when they "realized they were trapped in the wrong body"??? First it's all "i liked to steal my brother's clothes" and "i broke gender barriers all the time". Then they grow up their parents say "if you wanna be a boy we'll pay for the surgery". Their parents never consider homosexuality an option. They think "i like wearing boys clothes and like dating other girls, i'm probably a boy like my parents say!" then it's off to surgery. Never is gayness an option to them, nooooo…. You HAVE TO BE THE OPPOSITE SEX TO LIKE THE SAME SEX smh. What's wrong with KEEPING YOUR GENITALS AND CROSSDRESSING AND BEING GAY! Jesus."
third time I see that exact comment today
>I contributed a lot to this thread on /b/. I just want you guys to read up too. I 100% agree with OP btw.
thanks btw, I wanted to share this with as many people as I can
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No.353080
>>353078
>>7264975 on /b/
"Well, the idea is to update the gender system (which is modern because in older periods of history there were sometimes more than two) to an older more practical system that has a foundation in traditional cultures. This is because the 2 gender system creates trannies who want to be treated like the opposite sex is, since there are only 2 genders here. The 72 gender system is simply disgusting and degenerate tbh.
Sure, sexuality usually has top/bottom, dom/sub, but it is only between one gender. There is no knowledge of masculine and feminine men as different genders, and even among gays this creates trannies. This is because they "relate more to women than to other men" and "don't see the point in remaining male when everything [they] do is womanlike". I see this to be the problem that causes people to cut their dicks off or to sew dead flesh over their vaginas. Sometimes they don't even have surgery and just identify as the 73rd gender which is ridiculous and can be avoided by a practical system recognized by government authorities and society at large."
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No.353082
>>353079
Yeah lol. I browse /cuteboys/ as well as /b/ too. I felt like i wanted /cuteboys/ to see the points i brought up in the other thread. I don't mean to try to hijack your threads haha.
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No.353083
>>353082
>Please proceed with your analysis.
I don't really know what else to add. I made my main point.
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No.353084
The real question of transsexualism is weather or not transsexuals are more attracted to the ideas of what surrounds masculinity and femininity as ideas themselves culturally, or just the material things that surround them.
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No.353085
>>353083
Comon you really didn't think about this any further before making a thread?
Komm schon, wir könnten eine ernsthafte Diskussion hier haben
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No.353086
>>353084
Well, since we explained pretty much why people decide to become transsexual already, i suppose this is a good question. I'm curious, however, did you read the points brought up here yet?
Transsexuals see masculinity as "trying to be cool and fit in" and "adrenaline junkies" whereas they usually view femininity as being "the servant type" who "loves other people and works to please people". This isn't untrue, however, but as you can see, many fit themselves into the feminine category and proceed further on the path to dick slicing.
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No.353087
>>353085
I was awake all night. I don't really think I have the mental presence to write up another one of these articles. :)
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No.353104
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No.353123
This reminds me of something I'd wrote way back, regarding a post where someone had asked about why some men were homosexual, based upon studies showing their brains were more "female". This whole "what" and not "who" interpretation is more favorable to understanding how sexual attraction and sexuality really works, rather than just attempting to compartmentalize people (which is just a pretense to being able to identify them for bigotry). This is similar to something that I've been trying to get people to do for a decade, which is drop the ridiculous descriptors of "gay" and "straight" for a more rational terminology of "androphile" and "gynephile", which are by nature not exclusionary.
If you start adding gender into this argument, it's a whole 'nother clusterfuck.
Consider that a person is typically attracted to a person, and not just a set of genitals; usually they are also attracted to the gender which typically matches those genitals, and also sometimes social mores/standards attached to that gender. For example, most straight men are attracted to female feminine women. That is, cis-gender women that have a female sex and a feminine aspect (dresses/talks like most women do). Most straight men aren't going to be attracted to a female man (that is, a transman that was born female), even though this would still technically be a "heterosexual" couple.
Because of this, I've always disliked the terms hetero- and homosexual, as they are based on the attractor, not the attraction. It's stupid to say that a person's attraction to others changes if they change their own sex/gender. That's illogical; they've changed themselves, not the other person(s). Therefore, I prefer using the terms "androphile" and "gynephile". It avoids this because it doesn't matter what ways an androphile alters his/her sex or gender, he/she will still be attracted to men. After all, attraction comes from the brain, not from the genitals. If a man is gay, it's not because his penis likes other penises.
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No.353124
>>353123
cont.
If you look at it this way, this all becomes really quite simple. When you change it from "hetero-/homo-" to "andro-/gyne-", it becomes less of a permanent state, and more of a temporary condition. Now the question of which you are or can be is based on two things:
1) Do you find a particular sex/gender physically attractive enough?
2) Is there nothing impeding you from allowing yourself to have sex with them?
Seeing how nearly everyone can experience a physical attraction (or, for the sexually insecure male: appreciation for) to either sex and gender, 1 is almost a universal yes. This is where the assumption that every person is bisexual comes from. Sure there are outliers, but most people can probably find at least a few examples of people of their non-preferred sex/gender attractive.
Therefore, the reason must be 2; and number 2 is almost entirely sociologically based. In essence, the question usually is: will your peers/family/friends/country accept you having sex with this person?
See, most people won't have sex with a member of their same gender because society won't allow them to. This gets hammered into their brain until they allow themselves to accept the nonsense that being "straight" or "gay" is a permanent state of being, decided before or shortly after birth, and which doesn't change but is only "discovered". Only gay people are allowed to have gay sex, and by the transitive property of sexuality, anyone having gay sex must thus be gay.
Once you realize that this is just silly, and that for thousands of years men have been keeping wives and fathering children, yet having sex with their male friends on the side, do you see my point. Am I saying everyone is bisexual? No. Of course not; that implies a state of being that I've already established does not exist. What I am saying is that, if you strip away all the modern sociological repressions against sex and sexuality, and the illogical desire to label and compartmentalize/categorize people, you realize that everyone most likely has varying degrees of androphilia and gynephilia. Instead of the Kinseyan model of a single sliding scale between homosexuality and heterosexuality; each person has two sliding scales (one each for androphilia and gynephilia) between "no attraction" and "lots of attraction"; this also accounts for some types of asexuality, as people who just have zeroes on both scales — no singular scale can do that.
I don't think there is any reason why the "normal" state is for each person to be more attracted to their opposite sex/gender, either. After all, some primates will have sex with anything purely as social bonding. Humans aren't stupid; they likely have been intelligent enough to realize the connection between sex and reproduction for millions of years. So there is no evolutionary reason for humans to be of a majority attracted to their opposite gender/sex. Unlike lower animals who must have an "urge" or "drive" to mate with the opposite sex in order to perpetuate the species, humans can simply realize that it is something that must be done if they want children. Studies on feral foxes have shown that evolution can happen faster than most people think: in even just a few generations. Might modern humans have evolved beyond requiring such as base drive to mate with the opposite sex? That's just a theory; it's way outside my expertise.
Really, what I'm saying is that most people are looking at this completely wrong. This argument is based on a completely outdated idea that the male sex and masculine gender and XY chromosomes and being attracted to women and having a primarily androgen-influenced brain are all EXACTLY THE SAME THING, and any deviance is "abnormal". Thus, the only way a biological male could be attracted to men is if he had a "female brain". The only way a biological male could have a female gender or act feminine is if he has a "female brain" and is thus transsexual/transgender. It's laughably nearsighted.
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No.353125
>>353056
arent you german?
cant you shove that entire fucking novel you wrote into an awkward compound word
someting like…
Werist-wasist-faggotsexualität?
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No.353126
>>353125
I could do that. You could also suck my dick. baka
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No.353146
>>353123
>>353124
Just a quick question. Where did these ideas come from? Do you have any sources? I'm not questioning their legitimacy, quite the opposite.I'm interested in the area, and what started as a simple idea for some research piece for my dissertation has quickly turned into a passion to delve into quite a few relevant areas, and this is one I'd like to contribute too.
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No.354332
>>353056
Hey OP, you know that lesbian and asexual transwomen exist, right?
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No.354333
>>354332
Do lesbians and asexuals have anything to do with /cuteboys/, though?
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No.366281
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No.366325
>>353056
>at it's very core the West is sexually prude.
In relation to fucking whom?
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No.366328
Apart from choosin prudery as a way to describe it as we often look at the few liberties of nonwestern societies while solely ignoring their countless exotic dogmas and taboos, your general sentiment is interesting and seems true in some regard that our obsession with the individuals identity might affect people who feel more secure in a feminime role badly so that they want to match the correct identity more-if that was the gist of your thoughts.
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No.366352
>>353056
The west is one of the least judging parts of the world when it comes to sexuality. It even goes against human nature at points to prevent harming the feelings of others. To the best of my ability I see the rise in transsexuals & the unwillingness for people to just be "effeminate men" as a mixture of three things.
Firstly, the rise in autism in the west. The rates of autism in the west has been rapidly increasing & plenty of links have been found between autism & environmental factors(like how close you are to a major road when you're in the womb), the age of the father & to a lesser extent the age of the mother. People in the west have been having children later & later in their lives, they live closer & closer together in population centers & so it's no surprise there that autism rates have been rising if there's any validity to these connections. The main kicker though is that children with autism are fair more likely to think they're transgendered(believe they have gender dysphoria) or actually be transgendered. I can't quite remember the study, but in the case of the former, the children who weren't transgendered & autistic were actually just gay or bisexual & misinterpreted their feelings. Don't quote me on that though.
Secondly, the idealization of women in our societies. You see it all the time, women being idolized for being women, being cute, being sexy, being defiant – you name it. Our society has become gynophilic. Girls & women get special treatment down to the laws of our country(which in any perfect society should be blind to who it's punishing, so long as they have committed the act deserving of punishment.). Marketers profit significantly off of the empower women shit, TV shows especially & just about anyone in politics is more than willing to become a white knight to garner the female vote. It's a positive feedback loop of women & men indulging these behaviors & them becoming more prominent because of it.
Thirdly the exposure of children to sexual themes & indoctrination over gender & sexuality. This is played in multiple parts from what I can tell – but mainly it stems from the treatment of boys & girls at young ages. Boys are often scolded & treated in such a way as to not so much as even say anything harmful to a little girl even when the little girl is not scolded for having done it to them. Boys learn quick that girls have it easy, get the emotional support & adoration that they will likely never get, & the attention of their peers in more romantic senses. It only seems to bear fruit then that boys who have this drilled into their sub-conscious would at some point, if they're desperate for these things, become infatuated in being one of them & getting these things. I highly doubt that most of these people are aware of their reasons for it & the bullshit that's forced down people's throats these days about gender dysphoria not being a mental illness & that you can be born as the wrong gender only keeps them from truly understanding their actions. To tie onto that, there's also our generation's exposure to porn that is unlike any before ours. Traps, futas, furry shit – you name it & any kid in the 2000s was probably exposed to it & most likely shaped their sexuality around it, which could turn a disorder spawned from the insatiable desire to be treated better into something wrapped with fetishism from their sexually deviant fantasies given to them by being exposed to such materials at a time where their mental faculties can't hope to properly cope with these things.
All in all, it's the climate of our societies that are spawning trannies, not our attitudes towards sexuality, to think otherwise is ignorant of the circumstances of our youth, how our society treats the sexes & to what transgendered people are actually like. I don't know if you've ever known any OP, but they tend to be mentally warped & honestly I feel sad for most of them for being reduced to such a state. I can't feel too bad for them though, plenty of them turn out to be borderline psychotic or narcissistic.
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No.366372
>>353071
>The Who is a pretty good band
wrong
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No.366374
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No.366875
>it's another faggot thinks people hate him out of ignorance episode
lmfao
>germany
checks out
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No.367024
"Transsexuality in the West"
>Man hugging riot police
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No.368078
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No.372830
>>366875
People hate gays more than they hate trannies.
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No.372853
>>372830
which people are you even talking about anon
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No.373054
>>353056
This is not a fucking board for trans freaks.
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No.373069
trans mtf are great as long as they dont get srs
DILATION is proof that full transition isn't possible
>trans ftm are just ugly, freaky lesbians
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No.373077
>>373069
If they don't get srs, they don't count as trans. Trans is not great. It is directly detrimental to the mental health of an otherwise sane cuteboy.
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No.373831
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No.373833
Just explain the hate on trannies coming from cuteboys? Yeah, this board isn't the place to talk about transsexualism, but every time you say "lol trannies" they start to get all angry. Is anyone trying to force this somehow?
I have a great friend that happens to be a MtF (She's in college with me, computer engineering) and she's one of the most decent people i know. The hate is directed to the crazy, disgusting enbies that dye their hair in shitty colors while believing in 112 genders. But not all trans people are like this.
And if you're not actually trans or a retarded autist, you're not going to become a girl. If you had a boyfriend that transitioned, he was a tranny from the start, you're just unlucky. Or if you're questioning yourself and don't want to age and become manly, you're just a sad tranny, not a brave faggot fighting against the modern word (which happens to hate you)
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No.373834
>>373833
>>373831
Transsexism is a mental disorder. Cuteboys hate transsexism because it is a trap that lures perfect boys into chopping their dicks off to fit into society.
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No.373835
>>373834
Real cuteboys don't want to "chop their dicks off" in the first place. If they get ""lured"" into that… i have bad news for you.
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No.373837
>>373835
Trannies are cuteboys who can not accept their biological sex. Cuteboys get lured into srs by societal pressure and pressure by shrinks and doctors and sjws on a daily basis.
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No.373838
>>373837
What about "cuteboys" who get on female hormones to not age like a man, but don't get srs? (Living as a "boy" with female hormones, socially transitioning to a girl and chopping a dick off are three different things and many trans people don't get srs).
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No.373839
>>373838
Those aren't trannies. A tranny is a person who gets SRS.
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No.373841
>>373839
?? So if a person is living legally as a female, even being biologically male, being years into hormone therapy, but doesn't want to get srs, what she is? an ascended cuteboy???
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No.373842
>>373841
A trap is the most feminine a boy can be. It is a boy with hormones. Once the dick is lost, THEN they are trans.
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No.394360
>>353056
A lot of people, especially liberals, think that I'm going to vote a certain way because I like to wear nonstandard clothes and fuck an ass once in awhile.
Get the fuck out.
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No.402978
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