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the character art is atrocious but I gotta say my dick is pretty hard right now

>>984275

>atrocious

It's passable. Just keep in mind that this is a pilot get it? episode, and things might change if a studio or something picks it up.

>>984276

its jarring it its simplicity

they really kicked themselves in the balls if the wanted to pitch it anywhere that isnt netflix

>>984274

>No hooktube or webm

Yeah ain't clicking shit.

>>984292

Here.

>>984296

Why?

Don't see a single thing to like about this. Uninteresting premise filled with enough pointless mystery box setups to make JJ Abrams proud. I'll give the whole thing at least a modicum of respect for being a one man project for the animation, but that's about it. Better sound design would have helped.

It looses a lot just from the 'traumatized young pilot' character I was sick of back in the 90's.

I dont like the aircraft design and I do understand that floating thing that works with her. Like the society looks like its Diesel punk but that thing looks super scifi. so idunno needs some work if it ever gets picked up.

>>984301

>It looses a lot just from the 'traumatized young pilot' character I was sick of back in the 90's.

she emotes, talks and sounds like a woman in her 30s

>Better sound design would have helped.

the sound design was excellent for a pilot the fuck youre talking about

>>984303

What the heck is Diesel punk?

>>984305

>the sound design was excellent for a pilot the fuck youre talking about

The only issue was a few very familiar stock sound effects for me. I don't understand that argument either.

>>984306

TL;DR WWII era aesthetics

>>984308

Then just say it looks like a WWII city.

This immediately made me think of Skyland

>>984316

>read a book nigger

I'm not the same anon who asked what Diesel punk was. I'm just saying to make sure the brainlets can understand you.

>>984318

its one thing to simply tolerate an educational blindspot and its a whole another to lower the level of discourse to accomodate brainlets who's opinions you dont wanna hear in the first place

>>984274

sorry op, i know you want to shill this, but the animation looks like anus.

Maybe if they get some proffesional help in that area.

>>984274

>Pusher configuration

>Thick short wings at the back and center vertically

>Rudder is practically lined up with wings where the center of mass would supposedly be

>Fucking massive air intakes for ??? reason lined on the bottom

>Only partly-exposed air cooled gun barrels sitting on top of the wing, no room for action & housing is sloped

>Huge unsupported glass bubble canopy for no reason that could be cut to 1/10 of its size and give the same fov

>Pre-ww1 tier unmagnified open iron sight

>Everything about the cockpit

shit

>>984274

>>takes place in a world where all known life inhabits the sky

do we know why? is there a lore to this?

The animation doesn't sit right with me. It needs to be either more eerie or more cartoonish, they picked the worst middle. M Dot Strange could have had a field trip here. But there's something about it. Do we only see Angela? Are other humans like her or does everyone have their own desighn?

The dialog also… I see the creators are trying but it falls a little flat.

>The apparent entire remnant of humanity lives on a crumbling city, held aloft by a decaying crystal

>A cargo convoy, apparently carrying a new crystal is almost home

>They get attacked by a monster, apparently a semi-regular occurrence

>They only have one fighter on station, and that's not even directly escorting the convoy

>>984292

>muh hooktube

>>984274

>Takes plaice in a world where all life inhabits the sky

I remember there was a cartoon a decade ago with that premise.

Sounds like that new game, Worlds Adrift.

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Storm Hawks?

>>984276

> pilot get it? episode

Calling it a "pilot" episode has always been a pun. A "pilot" episode is the episode that gets it in the air.

>>984403

Dragon Hunters?

>>984435

It's not a pun if it only works one way.

The artstyle reminds me of Olive the Other Reindeer.

The Good

>Cool monster design

>For the shortness of the clip, it portrayed a lot of worldbuilding and the world concept isn’t always one that intrigued me

>Style is ambitious and has potential

>Good at portraying mood

>Relatively interesting action

>Decent voice acting

The Bad

>Art style clashed with tone. Looks like a pretty kissy show while having heavy subject matter. Could work if executed better

>Wasn’t a fan of the character art

>Main fighter plane design is meh

>If this tone went on for too long and too strongly it would get old, fast

I liked it for its ambition and attempts at making something big. If this is a one-man effort, I’ve got to give props, but the expectation is that everything would improve if it was picked up. Not sure the art style works for what the creator wants, though. The colors and style clash with the tone and mood.

Overall, great potential that I’d like to see fulfilled.

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see

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>>984291

if you want webms

If they changed the art style then it might be good.

>>985056

>>For the shortness of the clip, it portrayed a lot of worldbuilding

Characters using expository dialogue is the cheapest form of world building there is, because of how easy and overused it is.

Outlineless art style possibly needs some work, plane needs a redesign (just looks awkward), too many questions and not one of them being answered apart from no new crystal, for a one man production it's passable but could be better

The one thing I fear is that this is gonna pull a Korra and make the main character a faggot which will make any "fans" ignore any other criticism about it.

>>986419

What is a better way to do it then?

>>986590

I got that vibe that Helen was the main character's lesbo lover.

>>986590

>What is a better way to do it then?

>better than expository dialogue

Flashbacks without exposition are pretty good but I saw a really good example in the movie Mute recently.

The movie is about some German Amish dude that got his vocal cords damaged in an accident but in the background of a scene for about 5 seconds of a trial and apparently various background graffiti and posters set up in the background scenes of Mute referencing Moon, both of which have the same director. Mute is a futuristic blade runner style dystopian future, and moon has lithium 3 harvesters, thats like the setting of the movie Moon, there are a lot of these harvesters.

The 5 second video of the trial connects the two and establishes that most of the electricity in Mute comes from Lithium3, not the element lithium which is number 3 but the nuclear material sometimes refered to as heavy lithium, see heavy water for reference I'm probably fucking up the description but you get the idea.

so summarizing, that's 5 seconds of focused attention, the trial, to build the world of Mute massively, not to mention the less noticeable posters and shit that I didn't even catch because I didn't even catch the trial connection until after the movie.

Now if you want to make some more obvious world building you can look at the first matrix movie, not that the series isn't full of shitty exposition but the scenes where he gets a phone call that the agents are coming for him, pardon the shit video quality, establishes the agents as a force to be feared without even having to talk about what they are, they throw in a little explanation later but a lot more is established in the minds of the viewer WITHOUT needless dialogue and exposition.

>>984403

Also Skies of Arcadia

>lesbians

Oh. It's one of THOSE shows.

>>996475

It still looks generic.

I like the look of it. It's a funny take on post-apocalypse you know, like life just went on. There's a host of issues I have with it, some I'd trust to be explained and some I don't.

I doubt, for instance, that we'll ever get any justification for the entire city having two planes, which are infinitely more effective than what appear to be the flying artillery platforms that were getting the not-the-protagonist treatment. If they have the resources to build gunboats, why not build plane number 3 since they're apparently so great? Also are there no other pilots than the apparently schizophrenic lesbian? Or just none who could pull off her brilliant and daring "shoot it in the big red spots" tactic? The weird magic AI plane will probably be explained, and whatever's going on with the skull monsters. Can't have the show go on without getting the premises out of the way.

In terms of tone getting boring I imagine this episode was trying to set the overarching tone rather than what every moment's going to be like. What I mean is you have to start it off heavy because that's the theme, that's what people are going to have to sign up for if they're going to watch. You can have stuff happen besides "boo hoo everything is exploding and I am sad" but you have to establish that context first right?

I'm definitely going to download the series in a couple of years when I remember it again.

>>1008599

If only the actual art style wasn't Winx Club tier.

>>984403

Laputa: Castle in the Sky

>>984306

Essentially, just a step past steampunk.

-Gasoline instead of coal

-Steel and aluminum instead of brass and bronze

-Black exhaust instead of white steam

-Fuck dirigibles and other airships

-No exposed mechanisms unless it's an oil derrick/pump

-Everything's covered in grime

-All inventors are now just mechanics

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>>1008599

I don't know what it is about the new character design but her neutral expression makes her looks miserable especially in those video thumbnails. At least show that she can smile or be somewhat happy.

Rigging process looked interesting.

>>984274

if you fly by anti-grav, you don't need wings for aerodynamics