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File: 1f3eb2eceeeb2a5⋯.jpg (602.71 KB, 1567x1159, 1567:1159, Dick_Sprang_Remembers.jpg)

 No.1055181

>Batman's birthday

>get excited because I like Batman

>then I remember all the stuff I like is long dead and Batman is shit

Happy Batman Day, guys

 No.1055184

Not much to be happy about.


 No.1055240

>>1055198

It's not related to the Arkham games is it?


 No.1055241

Jesus Christ it's only been 5 years since the 75th anniversary?

God it feels like forever but also like a minute.


 No.1055247

>>1055240

It probably is, since those games ended on a blatant sequel hook. My guess is that it will be called either Arkham Ghost or Arkham Beyond.


 No.1055250

>>1055247

Oh boy. Sad to see that series get dragged out. I liked the first 2 games. Origins was kinda decent though a bit handholding at times.


 No.1055252

>>1055247

The ending wasn't really a sequel hook though, more like a "Batman is still around" thing in case people were unsatisfied with the implication that Bruce Wayne committed suicide by blowing himself up.


 No.1055259

I'm just hoping Warners follow up their excellent B:TAS blu-ray with Blu-Rays of World's Finest and Batman Beyond. Other than that, don't really give a shit


 No.1055267

>>1055181

It’s hilarious he made Bob Kane one of the goons


 No.1055290

File: 7060e27cffc3327⋯.jpg (346.22 KB, 726x908, 363:454, a demonstration of bob kan….jpg)

>>1055181

A good way to celebrate is to read Bob Kane's missive to Batmania fanzine angrily ranting against Bill Finger.

https://archive.fo/yNfKL

>We can call this story, "Inside Bob Kane," or will the real creator of "Batman" sign in, please!

>The Myth: Bob Kane is not the sole creator of "Batman." (I've heard this a thousand times in my lifetime), that "Batman" was really created by Bill Finger, Jerry Robinson, Carmine Infantino, Jack Schiff, Julie Schwartz, my publisher, etc., etc., and my housekeeper!

>The Truth: All hogwash! I, Bob Kane, am the sole creator of "Batman." I created "Batman" in 1939, and it appeared, if memory serves me correctly, in Detective Comics as a six or eight page story, and I signed the first strip, "Robert Kane."

>I read your article that you sent to me, "If the Truth be Known, A Finger in Every Plot," and it seemed to me that Bill Finger has given out the impression that he and not myself created the Batman, t' as well as Robin and all the other leading villains and characters. This statement is fraudulent and entirely untrue. That is myth" and I quote an excerpt from the article written by Jerry G. Bails, "The Cowl and Cape, the utility belt and gauntlets were all Bill's contribution."

>Also, further down in the article and again I quote , "Bill also created Robin, of course, but also Commissioner Gordon, (who appeared in the first Batman story), Alfred the Penguin, The Catwoman, etc., etc.

>I challenge Bill to repeat those statements in front of me. I am sorry that I was absent from the comicdom's convention so that I could have answered him. The truth is that Bill Finger is taking credit for much more than he deserves, and I refute much of his statements here in print The fact is that I conceived the Batman`' figure and costume entirely by myself' even before I called Bill in to help me write the "Batman. I created the title, masthead, the format and concept, as well as the Batman figure and costume. Robin, the boy wonder, was also my idea, . . . not Bill's.

>The only proof I need to back my statement is that if Bill co-authored and conceived the idea, either with me or before me, then he would most certainly have a by-line on the strip along with my name, the same as Siegel and Schuster had as creators of Superman. However, it remains obvious that my name appears on the strip alone, proving that I created the idea first and then called Bill in later, after my publisher okayed my original creation.

>(Attention Jerry G. Bails; the self-appointed authority on Batman. If Bill Finger created Batman, as you wrote, where is Bill Finger 's byline on my strip' It is conspicuous by its absence. So?)

Bob Kane was an incredible asshole. The only good story about Bob Kane was when Steranko slapped his stupid face.


 No.1055292

File: 1e4f4c1b3521e56⋯.mp4 (4.63 MB, 480x360, 4:3, Adam West and Bob Kane.mp4)

>Bob Kane


 No.1055302

File: eba9aab558940d4⋯.webm (10.36 MB, 720x576, 5:4, The Dark Knight's First N….webm)


 No.1055305

>>1055292

Jeez Bob Kane sounds like a creeper.


 No.1055313

File: 2736d5836f0cbe9⋯.webm (10.42 MB, 200x160, 5:4, The Legacy Continues - Ba….webm)


 No.1055314

File: 709d11a71d06c77⋯.webm (10.58 MB, 600x480, 5:4, Gotham's Guardians - Batm….webm)


 No.1055315

File: 16b340b1b82340b⋯.webm (10.45 MB, 500x332, 125:83, Gotham's New Knight - Bat….webm)


 No.1055344

>>1055290

>The only good story about Bob Kane was when Steranko slapped his stupid face

I disagree. They're all good stories because they all demonstrate what a tremendous asshole he was and that he shouldn't celebrated for anything.

Stan Lee was the only person with anything good to say about him. That should tell you something


 No.1055355

>>1055344

I liked the story about the painting of sad clowns.


 No.1055367

>>1055252

Do you really think whatever the original intentions were will stop WB from going "well they left it up to interpretation and our interpretation was a highly successful AAA title :))))"?


 No.1055547

>>1055292

RIP Adam West 1928-2017


 No.1055554

File: 945a88fd3f906da⋯.jpg (129.73 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Shaggy punches Joker.jpg)

80 years of content, you're bound to find a take/interpretation you like.


 No.1055559

>>1055181

The truth about Bill Finger remained undiscussed for so long because discussing it requires one to acknowledge that Bob Kane was was the living embodiment of every pernicious stereotype about Jews, and then some. Shylock had a point; Bob Kane was just pure shitheel.


 No.1055560

File: c109111bf327625⋯.jpg (34.81 KB, 598x680, 299:340, D3KM302VAAAZqlr.jpg)

>>1055554

>80 years of content, you're bound to find a take/interpretation you like.

Yes, and you'll start feeling bitter that it's not like that anymore.

It'll be like having a friend that became a total meth addict. You can remember all the good times you guys had together, but they'll be tinged with sadness and anger over what he's become.


 No.1055561

File: c1bc0fcd77b154d⋯.jpg (21.2 KB, 250x375, 2:3, 250px-Batman_The_Spirit.jpg)

>>1055559

My favorite Bob Kane story is probably the one told by Will Eisner.

Bob Kane and Will Eisner went to school together, and Kane was handsome enough that he'd get all these pretty girls to go out with him. Well, since Eisner were both artists, Kane hooked Eisner up with some of those girls and they'd go on double dates.

On these dates, Eisner noticed that none of these girls would give them any "action". Kane liked being seen with these beautiful young women, but they weren't putting out at all. Being a young man, that's not what Eisner wanted. Eisner eventually stopped going on double dates with Kane and started dating more average girls that'd give him some action.

That came to define Will Eisner and Bob Kane's artistic careers: Eisner wanted action. Kane wanted the appearance of action.


 No.1055564

I found the clown story! This is told by Arnold Drake.

"Bob had gotten to the point where he never drew anything. Never drew anything on the Batman comics, anyway. [Sheldon] Moldoff was ghosting them all and when he didn't, someone else did. The only thing I think Bob ever drew was when we'd be out somewhere, in a restaurant or someplace, and a pretty girl would come over to him and say, 'Are you really the man who draws Batman?' Then he could whip out a little sketch for her, a big sketch if she was wearing something low-cut and would bend over to watch him draw.

One day I'm over at his house to discuss this newspaper strip idea we had and he's talking about who we might get to draw it. I was going to write it and we were going to get someone else to draw it. I'm not sure what Bob was going to do on it except sign his name. I said to him, 'Bob, isn't it disappointing to you that you don't draw any more? You were once such a great artist.' He wasn't but you had to talk to Bob that way.

He said, 'Oh, no. Let me show you something.' He took me into a little room in his house. It was his studio. I didn't even know he still had a studio. It was all set up with easels and things and there were paintings, paintings of clowns. You know the kind. Like the ones Red Skelton used to do. Just these insipid portraits of clowns, all signed very large, 'Bob Kane.' He was so proud of them. He said, 'These are the paintings that are going to make me in the world of art. Batman was a big deal in one world and these paintings will soon be in every gallery in the world.' He thought the Louvre was going to take down the Mona Lisa to put up his clown paintings. I didn't have the heart to tell him.

So a few months later, I'm up at DC and I ran into Eddie Herron. Eddie was another writer up there and we got to talking and Bob's name came up. Eddie said, 'Did you hear? Bob's getting sued by one of his ghost artists.'

I said, 'How is that possible? Shelly Moldoff's suing Bob? But they had a clear deal. Shelly knew he wasn't going to get credit or anything…'

Eddie said, 'No, not Shelly.' Bob was being sued by the person who'd painted the clowns for him…"


 No.1055567

File: 78b7d5f01953ba0⋯.gif (161.93 KB, 630x385, 18:11, DB0E6056-5A04-40F8-B73D-97….gif)


 No.1055575

File: b8ceb7e27fe00a8⋯.jpg (60.53 KB, 472x407, 472:407, 1470254026777-0.jpg)

>>1055564

holy shit


 No.1055580

File: 938eecd7dccdacf⋯.jpg (8.42 KB, 298x169, 298:169, Bob Kane was a fucking scu….jpg)

File: 49a476f0cbf2be9⋯.jpg (375.42 KB, 832x585, 64:45, Bob Kane being not at all ….jpg)

File: 618f54ddb3bb498⋯.jpg (23 KB, 318x415, 318:415, The cover to Bob Kane's au….jpg)

>>1055561

>>1055564

Oh the stories about Bob Kane.

>Kane got his lawyer uncle to claim that Bob Kane was underage when he signed his contract with DC, enabling Bob to renegotiate for a fatter page rate on comics he didn't even draw.

>When Jerry Siegel and Joe Schuster went to Bob Kane to see if he was interested in joining their lawsuit against DC, Kane promptly snitched on them to DC. This earned Kane a new contract that, among other things, guaranteed him credit as the sole creator of Batman.

>Bob Kane stopped drawing Batman as early as Batman's second appearance in Detective Comics #28, hiring ghosts to do all the work and he'd take all the credit. He denied the existence of these ghosts even when it was an open secret in the industry.

>One of Bob Kane's ghosts was Jerry Robinson, who quickly picked up on Kane's scam and by-passed him to work for DC directly. Bob Kane never forgave Robinson for it and vocally denied his involvement in Batman to his dying day.

>Bob Kane denied that Bill Finger was the co-creator of Batman until long after Bill Finger died. Despite this, Bob Kane's grave-stone credits only one co-creator for the creation of Batman: God Himself.

>Bob Kane was buried with Batman toys and merchandise. Considering Bob Kane died in 1998, it's likely a plastic effigy of Chris O'Donnell is watching over Bob Kane's rotting corpse.


 No.1055620

File: 88e56bc129c56af⋯.webm (6.16 MB, 767x432, 767:432, sad_batman.webm)

>>1055181

My parents are deeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaad and so am IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII !!!


 No.1055629

Help me out, guys, I'm having a Mandela efffect moment here.

I've read that the credit "Batman created by Bob Kane with Bill Finger" was introduced in 2015, but I'm pretty sure that I've read it in that exact way before. Am I crazy?


 No.1055644

>>1055629

You're crazy. Bill Finger has never been co-credited in media until Batman v. Superman.


 No.1055673

>>1055644

Actually he first received credit in some shitty comics published in 2015. But never got any credit before 2015 so anon is crazy


 No.1055728

>there's a grafitti-filled city alley somewhere in huehueland that's named after Batman

>search kikestagram and twatter for 80th-related shit there

>nothing found so far

Sorry


 No.1056075

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I'm Batman


 No.1056076

File: 9a1222e5a8e5e68⋯.gif (924.43 KB, 400x333, 400:333, fuck yer batman.gif)

>>1056075

>"I never had to say "I'm Batman". I showed up. People knew I was Batman." -Adam West


 No.1056124

>>1056076

But was he The Night?


 No.1056205

File: 57ba61785cf2837⋯.mp4 (11.12 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, JOKER Official Trailer (20….mp4)

>>1055181

What does /co/ think about this? Personally, I don't think it feels like "Batman", but like that film Her, you know, that sort of "feels good" emotional flick sort of thing?


 No.1056209

>>1056205

I heard this was apparently supposed to be like a 70's satire like the King of Comedy. I don't really see this as feel good. I feel like they want to be some psychological thriller coming from a warped view. I don't think they'll go all the way through with it. I also fear they may overdo the whole sympathetic backstory. Like I understand having a tragic backstory but there are times when its overdone and comes off more as a sobstory excuse. Overall, I'd guess it'd be decent but not as great as everyone will make it out to be.


 No.1056223

>>1056205

Doesn't feel like a comic book movie whatsoever.


 No.1056237

File: e2a51b006b1e49f⋯.jpg (108.87 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, maxresdefault (1).jpg)

>>1056223

>Doesn't feel like a comic book movie whatsoever.

>Doesn't feel like a comic book movie whatsoever.

>Doesn't feel like a comic book movie whatsoever.

>Doesn't feel like a comic book movie whatsoever.

The fuck is a comic book movie supposed to feel like?

You do realize a comic book movie is just an adaptation of a story that was originally a comic right?

That's like saying the Tokyo Ghoul anime doesn't feel like an anime because it went it's own way with season 2.

A comic book movie has absolutely no guidelines to follow at all, it merely has to include something originally from a comic.

Now that doesn't mean Joker will be good, anyone invested in film knows it's trying to be sold as an arthouse film but isn't one. It'll probably be shit but will win an Oscar anyways.


 No.1056253

>>1056209

There's also a case where it's done but too much, to the point where one can say that the "villain" did nothing wrong, without seeming "edgy" or whatever.


 No.1056263

>>1056205

Cautiously optimistic. I get the impression that the people making it were given the opportunity to just do whatever they wanted and ran with it, so the result is at the very least interesting. I would normally object to the Joker having an origin (I prefer it to be multiple choice), but I'll at least judge this movie on its own terms.


 No.1056264

File: dd224ced7556b52⋯.jpg (139.71 KB, 793x609, 793:609, r u okay.jpg)

>>1056237

Because there's no zany elements whatsoever. Joker's iconic look is completely different, there's no Batman relating to his origins, Gotham looks like Chicago instead of the Gothic New Jersey it's supposed to be, and the tone is more like a drama thriller than a FUCKING FILM ABOUT A COMIC BOOK CHARACTER!


 No.1056265

File: 64d0d1477e8b05e⋯.png (83.35 KB, 521x388, 521:388, smug loli fucking cat.png)

>>1056264

>a comic needs to be zany.


 No.1056266

>>1056265

A comic book needs to feel fantastical. Especially a cape comic.


 No.1056268

File: 1ce8d91ec840df2⋯.png (626.16 KB, 1280x715, 256:143, Terrifying presence crashi….png)

>>1056266

So was LoTR a cape movie?

Were Greek Myths a predecessor to comics?

What about poetry?

Are realistic stories inherently not "comics"?

I find both of yours if not just your attempts to define a comic as anything other than a story told through still panels fruitless. There's nothing comics haven't done others have and nothing others have done that comics haven't. Trying to bar it from content or story is an easily falsifiable comment.

Joker is a cape film, it's just a very bad one, however someone can do a fully real non zany non fantasy comic book film that is 100% good, it just doesn't exist.

Bravo Nolan.


 No.1056269

>>1056268

None of these are an argument.

If it's grounded in reality and more of a generic action movie about spies or soldiers instead of a ridiculous COMIC BOOK cape story then it's not a proper cape movie.


 No.1056271

>>1056269

>none of those are an argument

>but my unsupported claim that my preference is standard is


 No.1056273

>>1056271

Trying to make the fantastical into the mundane only results in terrible edgy garbage. Turning a billionaire obsessed with Zoro and bats into a serious character with a serious narrative in a gritty "realistic" world is not entertaining. It's boring. Comic books are escapism. They should be fantastical. If you want to tell a serious story within the world of the fantastical you can but you need to keep that world fantastical all the same.


 No.1056274

File: 60522bfdc5a5402⋯.jpg (34.33 KB, 475x350, 19:14, Joker Let_me_tell_you_how_….jpg)

>>1056264

>>1056237

>>1056265

>>1056266

>>1056268

>>1056269

>>1056271

>>1056273

I saw you two faggots fighting, so I'm going to set you both straight.

Joker isn't a cape film.

Superheroes, i.e. capes, are the fantastic set against the mundane. The feats of Superman contrasted against the normal people of Metropolis. The gadgets and costume of Batman compared to normal police. It's that difference that defines it as it's own genre.

Joker lacks that essential element. The main character is a normal man that fits into the normal world. He doesn't have bleached white skin and green hair or use laughing gas. There's none of the contrast necessary for a cape film, thus it cannot be considered one.


 No.1056275

>>1056273

>edgy

But that's not always the case being mature and dark doesn't mean blood and sex everywhere otherwise the 90's were literally anti comics. We're not talking about that.


 No.1056276

>>1056274

You know what by this point I don't care any more I'm about to fall asleep so sure. Whatever.


 No.1056278

>>1056274

Thank you!


 No.1056365

>>1056276

Nah, you're just retarded.


 No.1056386

>>1056365

Epic baseless insult to make up for your lack of argument which by this point everyone agreed to stop arguing over.




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