No.1046726[Last 50 Posts]
"Witness the return of Jesus Christ, who is sent by God on the most sacred mission, to learn what it means to be the true Messiah of mankind by becoming a colleague of the world's favorite savior: the all-powerful superhero Sun-Man, the Ultimate Son of Krispex. But when Christ returns to the earth, he is shocked to discover what was made of his gospel - and now he intends to put things on the right track. "
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No.1046727
Sounds like it could be good.
Is this a story time?
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No.1046728
>>1046727
>Sounds like it could be good.
There are millions of ways this could go wrong.
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No.1046729
>>1046728
nothing wrong with optimism, especially when it's a free comic
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No.1046730
>To learn what it means to be the Messiah of mankind
>Dies on a Roman cross, a brutal form of public execution after being beaten and scourged, is buried and comes back from the dead
>Stil has to learn how to be a Messiah
While I like the idea of Jesus coming back and putting all the false teachers in their place, what fresh heresy is this?
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No.1046731
>>1046730
Actually, most of his suffering was done in the garden of gethsemane when he drank from the bitter cup and bled from every pore. The actually Crucifixion was basically a formality and to cover the actually dying part.
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No.1046733
>>1046731
>Most of his suffering
Yes he was in emotional anguish at the moment, but physically he had not suffered, yet.
>drank from the bitter cup
Unless you're seeing something I'm not he didn't drink anything, unless you're implying his anguish in the garden was the cup and not the entire ordeal of a false/illegal under the Law trial, being beaten, scourged, spit on, mocked and hung to die like a common criminal, being rejected by the people of the covenant He came to try and bring back to the right path and be ready for when salvation was offered to the Gentiles as well as the Jews. Not to split hairs or claim "HA HA my theology is better than your theology" but limiting the "cup" to just the garden I think misses the whole ordeal of his suffering.
>bled from every pore
Not sure that's what actually happened as it says he sweat drops "like blood" unless I have read that wrong. There is a condition where blood vessels can burst and blood will seep out through the sweat glands, but the New Testament writers use the phrase "like X" quite a lot.
Regardless of if he actually sweat blood or not he was in a state of anguish I dare say few, if any, could truly comprehend.
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No.1046734
Seems like a good idea, shame that i bet it will be only for lefturd ideas like "turn the other cheek." and none of " I have not come to bring peace, but a sword."
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No.1046748
>>1046726
I wish one of these "second coming" writers would actual read the book of revelations
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No.1046749
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>>1046726
Well, people always do compare superman to jesus
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No.1046750
>>1046730
Jesus wasn't buried.
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No.1046802
>>1046750
Enough with the semantics autist
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No.1046808
>>1046734
people don't even get the turn the other cheek shit right either. It's suppose to be about making an act of passive resistance even when you have no power to actually resist, not fucking forgiving a person for hitting you.
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No.1046809
I wonder how hard it would be to tweak the dialog and art to be about Mohammad instead of Jesus… could be a fun way to throw all the people defending this shit into a frenzy trying to explain away why it's bad when someone does it to Islam but okay for Christianity .
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No.1046813
>Superhero comes from Planet Krispex
Jesus is going to be pissed when he finds out he isn't working with an actual superhero, but a breakfast cereal mascot.
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No.1046817
>>1046749
Superman is a jewish version of jesus. A being from an (((alien))) planet disguised as a weak goym, which is his secret identity. In reality, he's full of superpowers, and by far the strongest and best thing there is. Superman is how the jews view themselves.
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No.1046819
>>1046817
It's also fairly indicative of the collective inferiority complex Jews have.
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No.1046827
To all those reporting this thread for the lack of story-time: the comic doesn't come out until fucking March.
That is all.
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No.1046828
>>1046817
Would also explain Superman saving people only when he feels like it and treating rescuing people as casual hobby instead of responsibility like a proper hero would.
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No.1046830
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No.1046833
>>1046726
> Jesus Christ
> sent by God
Looks like someone is asking for a beating by St. Nick.
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No.1046836
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No.1046838
>>1046808
The problem with at is that it seems a bit arrogant. Considering the context is about appeasing petty villains so you'll live to see another day, it might just be so you would avoid angering your master further, rather than showing defiance, which really doesn't solve anything and would just piss him off even more, if he is wicked, and as I said, considering the context, it's less likely the passage refers to any master who may have some humility. I'd like to know what the traditional Copticathodox view of the passage is. Either way, it's definitely not a "hurr violence bad" message.
>>1046826
>Not chimping out
This also.
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No.1046839
>>1046827
There is no storytime rule, anyways. Stop enforcing it
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No.1046840
>>1046830
Being co-opted doesn't mean the official creators would've disagreed. Siegel and Shuster just wanted to fantasize about some guy everyone saw as a dorky coward secretly being super strong and easily impressing women.
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No.1046846
>>1046838
>>1046808
wasn't the "turn the other cheek" thing actually about causing the person beating you social damage by forcing them to strike you as a brute would? since there was a way to strike a person and let them keep their dignity, but if they backhanded you then they were a brute and were not deserving of respect.
Which is why you would turn the cheek in a public area, so people could see their brutishness. Or something. It's been a long time since I've looked into that.
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No.1046852
>>1046846
What if they just bitch slap you with the other hand?
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No.1046867
>>1046852
I know citing wikipedia only barely counts, but it seems I was thinking of the nonviolent resistance interpretation of the statement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek
"The scholar Walter Wink, in his book Engaging the Powers: Discernment and Resistance in a World of Domination, interprets the passage as ways to subvert the power structures of the time.
At the time of Jesus, says Wink, striking with the back of the hand a person, who was deemed to be of a lower socioeconomic class, was used as a means to assert authority and dominance. If the persecuted person "turned the other cheek," the discipliner was faced with a dilemma: The left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed. An alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek, the persecuted was demanding equality."
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No.1046921
>>1046808
I always saw it as don't start a fight you don't have to. Because by slapping the guy back you're prompting him to retaliate again.
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No.1047041
>>1046828
>Treating rescuing people as a casual hobby instead of a responsibility.
Superman isn't Sonic.
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No.1047043
>>1046730
Let's be honest, the writer probably is a blatant fedora tipper militant atheist.
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No.1047052
>>1046813
Why would he? He was gifted gifts by 3 wise men on his birthday. He'll finally get to be reunited with them all grown up as the Krispex Ambassadors of Flavor.
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No.1047100
>>1046817
>Superman is a jewish version of jesus.
You know that sentence doesnt make any sense since Jesus was a jew…
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No.1047118
>>1047100
What was all that "synagogue of Satan" about then, or have I completely misunderstood something?
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No.1047131
>>1047100
The jewish religion of today doesn't believe Jesus was the messiah, superman was made by these jews. Understand what he meant now?
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No.1047161
>>1047100
I thought his backstory was closer to Moses tbh.
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No.1047214
>>1046819
>>1046817
>>1046828
>>1046840
>>1047100
>>1047131
>>1047161
<SUPERMAN IS JEWISH!
<SUPERMAN IS MOSES!
<SUPERMAN IS JESUS!
Oh fuck this shit. Siegel and Shuster didn't create Superman as Jewish. Fuckers who say that have no knowledge of how the children of immigrants viewed their cultural identities in the 20s - 30s. Those kids viewed themselves as Americans first and foremost, so you'd have German-Americans, Polish-Americans, Irish-Americans, and, what Siegel, Shuster, Eisner, and Kirby belonged to, Jewish-Americans. Thus, Superman wasn't created to be Jewish, he was created to be American.
And all that talk about Superman being Moses or Jesus is a bunch of crap. The only thing Superman has in common with them is if you have a very, very, loose interpretation of their origins, that's it. Superman doesn't lead his people out of bondage to the promised land, nor does Superman die for our sins, nor anything important that Moses or Jesus did. It's just a bunch of pretentious horse-apples for faggots too insecure to enjoy stories about guys in spandex.
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No.1047233
>>1047214
You still have to address why Superman is selfish asshole, at best Chaotic Good in DnD-terms since he selectively applies law and does only what he feels like. If he was created to be American, he certainly epitomizes the worst sins of the country instead of being inspirational symbol writers try to portray him as.
>>1047041
At least Sonic has defined reasons for being edgy. Plus Sonic is still better person & more heroic than Supes since he tends to actually help distressed people whenever he notices them unlike the latter. Fuck saving millions, the newspaper is not going to write itself.
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No.1047249
>>1047214
Anon you're replying to shitposters who know jackshit about capes or anything comics related. They only come here to bitch about unrelated shit they dont know about because they got kicked out of their own containment board for this equally cancerous behavior.
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No.1047258
>>1047249
Says the faggot who sages every thread.
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No.1047331
>>1047214
If anything he's closer to Lucifer symbolically. Powered by the sun, fallen from a stellar race.
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No.1048861
Apparently this stunt didn't go over too well and it might have cost Didio his job.
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No.1048891
>>1047331
Satan is powered by the sun. What fanfic is that from?
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No.1048899
>>1047233
I was referring to Sonic as an example because his personality is basically Chaotic Good in that he won't actively look for villains and would prefer to just relax, but immediately acts like a superhero when there's actual danger. (i.e. OVA Sonic acting like a lazy shit when he knows Tails could save the Old Man Owl but immediately comes to the rescue without complaint when it's clear Tails can't handle the situation.)
I wouldn't call Superman a selfish asshole, but more of a dumbass.
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No.1048903
>>1048899
At large enough scale stupidity becomes inseparable from outright and I would argue that Superman has went long past that point with the way he tends to be written, but I acknowledge your point. Chaotic Good Superman would be more interesting than the "Holy Savior of DC-verse" anyway since it would allow Superman to be more honest with his desire to simply live as Clark Kent while helping out occasionally.
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No.1048904
>>1048891
My Bible fanfiction.
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No.1049064
DC CANCELLED THE SECOND COMING
http://archive.is/1kNM3
http://archive.is/pj020
Apparently there was a petition calling for DC to cancel Second Coming as it was blasphemous. DC folded and book was cancelled. Russel did get the right back to it and is planning to find another publisher for it.
That's two new Vertigo titles getting cancelled now.
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No.1049068
>>1049064
Good riddance. One step closer to everything getting cancelled and we'll be free of the big two.
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No.1049076
>>1049064
I wouldn't have been surprised if DC caved in for Muslims, but Christians?
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No.1049101
>>1049064
>SJW Fad finally starting to fail and fade.
>Evangelical soccer moms immediately come back in full force.
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No.1049104
>>1049101
I'd rather have to deal with evangelical soccer moms than with leftist antifa SJWs.
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No.1049120
>>1049064
Related followup:
>DC doesn't even have the rights to do HB comics anymore.
http://archive.fo/I6ysH
Scooby Apocalypse will end this April with #36, whiel the digital-first ongoing "Scooby-Doo Team-Up" is still alive.
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No.1049121
>>1049064
lt still can go back in some edgier publisher like AVATAR or IMAGE.
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No.1049122
>>1049121
Avatar Press is currently a shadow of its former self anon.
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No.1049163
I miss the days when something could succeed and fail on its own without outside interference.
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No.1049174
>>1049163
If that were possible then DC and Marvel should've logically died years ago.
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No.1049225
>"we needed to make edits" — Dan DiDio
Fucking Pam Lifford.
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No.1049256
>>1047214
>Those kids viewed themselves as Americans first and foremost
>lists a bunch of people who put being American second
lol civ nationalists
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No.1049261
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>DC canceling a comic that sold like shit
>youtube Skeptic community is outrage that people are not buying anti-christian comics
>Frank Miller holy terror label by as hate speech admitting Muslim terrorism exist
>Holy terror far less anti-Islam as preacher is anti-christian
Call me crazy. It almost like youtube Skeptic community are Muslim Defend SJW 2.0. Like the movement was never about actual atheism.
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No.1049263
>>1049261
As shit as holy terror was. It’s still refusing that a western write admit Muslim terrorist exist.
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No.1049265
>>1049261
>that random eceleb forgot to mention >>1049225
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No.1049351
>>1049261
I guess the Bush years sure created mad people and then saw muslims as allies against the Bible Belt.
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No.1052166
>>1046833
It's not technically heretical language until it actually states that Jesus isn't divine. Remember, Jesus Himself said things like "The Father has sent me." We aren't really equipped to understand the Trinitarian God in His essence; not even the angels can grasp His transcendence, so it makes sense that there would be no perfect way to describe the coming of Christ
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No.1052172
>>1047214
Then why do Amerimutts of the 1930's through 1960's love him so much? Amerimutts being mostly Eastern European Slavs or Jews or some combination.
I've lived in Europe for several years and when you've lived there that long it becomes clear as day that yes that is what most Americans are, I used to laugh with locals as to what Americans think "white" is.
Surely "Superman" must be hitting on some form of shared culture. He's fairly Semitic looking, so assuming it's Judaism isn't so much of a reach in my opinion.
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No.1052196
>>1052172
Most Americans aren't Slavs or Jews, Unless you live in Jew York City
And most of the people I've talked to didn't like Superman. Flash Gordon, Buck Rodgers sure, but not Superman. He was just the most pushed comic book character. Its like people 50 years from now sawing everyone loved Captain Marvel because Marvel and the Mouse keep trying to shove it down everyone's throats.
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No.1052200
>>1052196
I have been reading the golden age stuff and it's pretty good though i still prefer zatara
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No.1053086
SECOND COMING MOVES TO AHOY COMICS, ADDS SECOND TBA ARTIST
>said artist will illustrate the Earth scenes
>an additional colorist is announced
>the first issue, with six extra pages, will be released on July 10th
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/12/arts/second-coming-jesus-comic-book.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20190313020728/https://comicsahoy.com/news/second-coming-ahoy
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No.1053898
>>1049122
What if they went to Dark Horse? They're all about creator rights.
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No.1053928
>>1053086
And so we get another shelf warmer that know one will care about.
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No.1053959
>>1049261
the skeptic community died ages ago. Everyone worth anything in it has moved on to different things, and everyone still relishing in the label are absolute retards.
>>1046726
Didn't the Watchowskis make a comic book that's literally the same thing?
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No.1054032
Nobody got this butthurt over Jesus in Battlepope or Ghost Rider or Nexus.
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No.1054065
>>1054032
Did any of those push social justice or shit on Jesus?
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No.1054066
>>1048891
Well, he was known as the morning star
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No.1054075
>>1054032
Because Battle Pope was fun, not this retarded preteen preachy bullshit.
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No.1054098
>>1054065
Nexus had Godcon One, where Jesus AND the Jewish God showed up, and boy was that awkward. Buddha was chill, and so was Mohammad. Satan was being a dick about her autograph line being longer, though.>>>1054032
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No.1054128
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No.1059511
Here's AHOY's solicit for the second issue:
>The book everyone’s talking about! When a weirdo stalks and threatens Sunstar’s girlfriend, Jesus tries to prevent the superhero from succumbing to rage–but God has other plans. Plus AHOY’s customary offerings of illustrated short prose fiction.
>August 14, 2019
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No.1065394
Richard Pace confirms there's an art revision since Ahoy took over publishing duties.
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