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31f66f  No.5225

I am a Christian. Now I need to know what demon do I choose. I am only left with these options,

1)Anglican

2)Lutheran

3)Orthodox

Which of the three do I join? These are the closest to the Bible I could find but I cannot decide. Give me your best thoughts.

Ok on second thought, I dont want Orthodox. That whole Constantinople and Russia issue is a bit disturbing and I am not a racist

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f22b3e  No.5226

>>5225

Why would you choose a demon?

>I am not a racist

So thats why…

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7a1ac2  No.5227

To answer, tell us your understanding:

What must a man do to be saved?

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31f66f  No.5229

>>5227

1) Believe in Christ's promises

2) Repent of sins and submit to God

3)Get baptized

Already done all three but a key ingredient is missing. The church. I dont know where to go

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c91657  No.5231

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>>5229

You do not believe the reformation principle of sola fide. Before anything else I hope you'll reconsider this, because it is a salvation issue.

Here's a video on it, it's a little long but you can play it at 1.5x speed.

I am an evangelical, and a Southern Baptist. Our confessional document is the Baptist faith and message. We are theologically conservative, non-sacramental, and hold to the autonomy of the local church.

The majority party of the groups you listed are terribly liberal at the expense of historic Christian doctrine.

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c91657  No.5234

>>5231

Actually I'm not sure that the eastern orthodox have an issue of theological liberalism, I just know the adherents tend to be left of center

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31f66f  No.5249

>>5231

Southern baptist is out of my list because what you consider sola fide, is unbiblical.

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016f33  No.5250

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31f66f  No.5251

>>5250

Because it is unbiblical. Like take James 2, he says that the works there are merely before men eventhough the examples James give for faith never said the act of Abraham or Rahab are just merely "before men".

The type of faith Anderson believes can save, is the faith of demons according to James which cannot save.

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44ac44  No.5261

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OP is not an impartial, earnest seeker, it's one of the spamming Anglican's IP addresses. He wasn't getting enough attention in the other threads he ruined.

Just FYI.

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31f66f  No.5262

>>5261

>t. Butthurt baptist

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84bb34  No.5265

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>>5249

>Southern baptist is out of my list because what you consider sola fide, is unbiblical.

Sola Fide is the gospel. You are not a true Christian sir.

"But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!" (Gal. 1:8-9 NASBU)

It would tickle me if your soul wasn't at stake that you are considering a Lutheran church as true, non-pozzed, conservative synods would kick you out for denying Sola Fide.

How can you "apostolic" guys not understand that James of James 2:24-25 doesn't contradict Paul of Romans 4:2-8 and Ephesians 2:4-10. In fact neither the Eastern nor the Roman church affirms what you imply with a woodenly literal, de-contextualized repetition of James 2. By the way, James is attacking a hypocritical man who merely says (re-read the passage carefully) he has works, not someone who has actual faith, is believing in Sola Fide at it's best formulation, or is giving a evident testimony of putting faith in Jesus alone.

Remember, too, that anything, including any work whatsoever, not of a true, genuine faith in Jesus Christ alone is sin. Synergism is not a true faith. Remember, finally, that the five Sola's are not meant to be used alone but together. Sola Fide is true because Soli Deo Gloria is true. God shares His glory with no one (Isaiah 42:8). How dare you believe a little sprinkling or a second of bath time with cruddy, physical tap water can add a string of a quark to what Christ Himself did on the Cross and that His work is not completely sufficient. You need to repent of your spiritual pride and for adding to the Gospel.

For any Protestant or on the fence "Apostolic" here still interested, watch Dr. Jeff Weima's series on James 2, which is on Youtube. Dr. Weima is a professor emeritus of New Testament theology at Calvin Theological Seminary. Also read this great paper by Dr. Robert Stein from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary,

https://d3pi8hptl0qhh4.cloudfront.net/documents/sbjt/sbjt_2000fall2.pdf

>>5261

What a shame! And here I was just finishing up this post as if OP was at least sincere.

>>5225

>>5262

REPENT! TURN TO CHRIST AND LIVE!

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de4ace  No.5268

>>5261

lmao

pathetic

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ed28bf  No.5269

>>5261

I've had experience with this guy for two years at least. To my knowledge, he first showed up on imageboards at that time, on 4/his/. I assure you, if he is an Anglican, he recently converted to it from Rome. It would not be the first time he lied about his denominational affiliation.

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dd29c5  No.5272

>>5265

It is clear here you havent read James 2 in context. Why? Because James is attacking the person who says he doesnt have works and just faith, which as Calvinist Douglas Moo recognizes, is not true faith at all as true faith is active and expresses itself.

And Dr Stein himself knows this and says of James' hypothetical opponents' view,

This opponent’s understanding of faith is quite different from that of James himself. This can be seen by observing how this faith is described: 2:14a—It is a faith that possesses no works;

2:14b—It is a faith that cannot save;

2:17—It is a faith without works that is dead;

2:18a—It is a faith that is distinct and separate from works;

2:18b—It is a faith without works;

2:18c—It is contrasted with a faith shown by works;

2:20—It is a faith without works that is useless; 2:22a—It is contrasted with a faith that works along with works;

2:22b—It is contrasted with a faith perfected as a result of works;

2:24—It is a faith that is alone;

and 2:26—It is a faith without works that is dead

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dd29c5  No.5274

And more from Stein on what Paul means by faith,

In Paul “faith” almost always refers to a whole-hearted trust in God that salvation can be received as a gracious gift apart from any meritorious works because of the death and resurrection of his Son, Jesus Christ. Faith for Paul involves “man’s total response to and involvement with Jesus Christ.”20 Accompanied with the gift of the Spirit it involves a new creation (2 Cor 5:17) in which the believer has been raised to newness of life and has become a slave to righteousness (Rom 6:18).

I agree. Faith is active and is man's TOTAL RESPONSE and his involvement in Christ. It isnt just mere one time belief or just passive. It ACTS

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ed28bf  No.5275

>>5272

It's clear that was just a slip of the tongue and what anon meant to say faith when he said works.

But you are actually wrong here and I'm guessing misrepresenting the Protestant scholars as usual, in that nobody in James 2 denies they have works. There is one who claims he has faith but does not have works, and one who has faith and works.

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dd29c5  No.5276

>>5275

Except he didnt say that. Why? Becsuse I am already clear that James speaks against a view of faith that isnt active by saying the faith of demons dont save contra Anderson's eisegesis.

>misrepresenting Protestant scholars

How? By saying what they say? This is an empty claim that holds no water. Stein's article linked is clear that true faith is active as shown by how he describes James examplars of faith! He says a moral lifestyle is also demanded of the believer. Unlike you I actually read what the scholars say!

There is also one person who denies works and separates faith and works, the one whose faith is described as the faith of demons

Luther is correct in saying faith doesnt ask and is active. He is wrong to simply relegate the activeness as mere evidence and treats it as if the sinner is moved like a puppet!

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564c72  No.5459

>>5269

From your experience with him, what do you theorize his deal is? Is he an earnest overzealous evangelist who has no qualms about bearing false witness (i.e. multiple IDs in order to pretend to be people who agree with/support him, along with what you said about misrepresenting his denomination) and being antagonizing in order to accomplish his goal? Or is he just some sort of bizarre autistic troll with too much time on his hands who is willing to go to absurd lengths (spamming and coming across as well read in scholarship, at least on a surface level; definitely seems to have a large collection of scholarly jpegs at his disposal for this purpose) for the sake of attention and sadist amusement?

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