/christianity/ - Christian Theology

>>1045

Who has the accurate Bible translation? Good question. Most people don't even ask this anymore. The only churches which insist on using the received Word, the one that has been handed down unchanged from every generation, are Independent Baptists who aren't part of any denomination. These churches use the KJV, which is based on the original language sources.

There is a long line of copied manuscripts that can be traced through history before finally being compiled and printed in book form about five hundred years ago til the present day. We can trace the history of its use through the centuries, and Scripture itself attests to its own authenticity as "never changing" (Matthew 24:35, 1 Peter 1:25).

Other people aside from these will frequently try to tell you that it doesn't matter very much what Bible you use. They will say there's more than one, and that the modern versions are "better" despite the fact that "modern versions" use sources that weren't around until the year 1881 with the dynamic duo Westcott and Hort. Soon after, many of the so-called "modern versions" began incorporating bits and pieces of the changes introduced by these men. Also, people like C.I. Scofield, the popularizer of dispensational theology (teaching that there is a "chosen race" of Jews) popped up around this time. Scofield was also a fan of their work (1885 RV Bible) and referenced it frequently; the only reason Scofield published his footnotes with the KJV was that, back then (100 years ago), it was still the most used translation. Only later did modern versions start to outsell it due to marketing campaigns.

Here is just one single example of a change that all modern versions have:

Matthew 5:22 (KJV)

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment:

Matthew 5:22 (modern)

But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment;

>>1047

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate

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Ego autem dico vobis: quia omnis qui irascitur fratri suo, reus erit judicio. Qui autem dixerit fratri suo, raca: reus erit concilio. Qui autem dixerit, fatue: reus erit gehennæ ignis.

>The Douay–Rheims Bible is a translation of the Latin Vulgate, which is itself a translation from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek texts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douay%E2%80%93Rheims_Bible

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But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

They both disagree with your Matthew 5:22

>>1048

Worldly music? I'm pretty sure that's covered in Colossians 2:8. We have a perfect justification not to engage in it.

>I don't have that much to add, anon, but a church which uses the Bible as the ONLY form of guidance is damned to end in the same way that your church did.

My church is independent from whatever you were just referring to. As I said in my intro post, it's an independent baptist church. As in, no denomination, no parachurch organization.

>a church which uses the Bible as the ONLY form of guidance

Ok so to get to the deeper point here, we agree. The Holy Spirit is also essential to understanding Scripture. This only source of teaching is something that only a saved, believing individual has access to. If you like, I can bring up some scripture for this as a reference and will pray that God can open your understanding to these things.

For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. – 1 Corinthians 2:11-13

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. – John 14:26

Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. – John 16:13-14

>>1056

Just to piggy back off this guy, here is a resource to help locating IFB churches. Definitely a useful resource to start you on your search.

http://militarygetsaved.tripod.com/findchurch.html

>>1050

>They both disagree with your Matthew 5:22

And neither one is based on the original languages, so this is not relevant here.

>>1047

>These churches use the KJV, which is based on the original language sources.

misinformation

every translation is based directly on the original, except for the catholarp duoay rheims

>>1169

>every translation is based directly on the original,

Then why do they disagree?

>>1045

I have the best advice you're going to find in this thread. Do extensive research yourself and don't base this decision on the advice of the vultures that always circle these threads on every single Christian imageboard.

Polite sage

Orthodox.. and we mostly love the KJV (at least when it lines up with the LXX). I doubt that's enough of a sell for Baptists though. Heh.