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ad5a6b  No.828014

According to christianity Satan must have redeemed himself from causing Adam and Eve's fall as he had his children save humanity by giving a human sacrifice. Salvation was brought about by the works of jews, children of their father satan. Salvation is not due to faith or God's forgiveness, but rather works stemming from free will of devils.

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b326ab  No.828021

>>828014

they only became "children of their father satan" (as you call them) after they rejected the Christ

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ad5a6b  No.828022

>>828021

>"children of their father satan" (as you call them)

I didn't come up with it

>after they rejected the Christ

that does not contradict anything I said. Their rejection of christ, ie not recognizing him as Yahweh known and worshipped by their forefathers, happened before they killed him and saved mankind, which was satan's children undoing satan's wrong.

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beb462  No.828047

>>828014

Jesus didn't say all Jews. He called the Pharisees the children of Satan. This is right in the Temple, after he saved the woman that the scribes and pharisees were about to stone (who was Jewish herself), and when he was already preaching to many other Jews at the mount of Olives – other Jews who were happy to follow him.

The attempt to read this as being "all Jews" is from modern Jews who seek to see themselves in the text, and wish to discredit the Gospels. And you're playing right into it. Or one of them yourself.

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fed45a  No.828054

>>828021

>they only became "children of their father satan" (as you call them) after they rejected the Christ

Pretty sure they were children of Satan long before that…

>>828014

>Salvation is not due to faith or God's forgiveness, but rather works stemming from free will of devils.

Satan can do nothing except what God allows him to, and God first prophesied the coming and work of His Son in the promise He made to Eve regarding her seed crushing the head of the serpent. It was God that brought Jesus into the world, always planning it, and it was God that lived a perfect life, even in spite of Satan directly tempting Him. Jesus even said that no man takes His life from Him… That He intended to lay it down willingly and also to take it back up again.

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ad5a6b  No.828083

>>828054

What did God allow Himself to find tempting for 40 days? Satan must've offered something pretty impressive to have even God find it tempting for over a month. But that's another topic.

>That He intended to lay it down willingly and also to take it back up again.

He was still put to death by works stemming from the free will of jews, no? Or did the rejectors of Jesus not have free will?

>>828047

>only some jews are the children of satan

what does that change with regards to my post? I didn't say *all jews* either. Obviously *all jews* wouldn't have been there to sacrifice Jesus and save mankind. Only some of them had to be available for satan's works of undoing the fall.

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fed45a  No.828085

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>>828083

>But that's another topic.

No it isn't.

1. You're assuming that Satan was on His butt for the whole 40 days, which would be incorrect. It was at the beginning, and then the remaining 40 days Jesus was ministered to by angels.

2. The 40 days were God's idea.

>He was still put to death by works stemming from the free will of jews, no?

Wrong camp, I'm a Calvinist. Creaturely will is free to act according to its nature, but subordinate to the will of God. They can only do what He lets them, just like their father.

>satan's works of undoing the fall.

Undoing? You evidently don't even understand the extent of the effects of the cross if you think Jesus's sacrifice merely "undid" the effects of Adam's sin in the garden. It went so far beyond that… More to the point, Satan was a tool. He was defeated and cast down to the earth, somewhere around the time of when Jesus incarnated and started working, where he was used by God to bring about His plan. I'm certain that Satan didn't even realize what he was doing until it was too late. He's probably kicking himself now for being made such a fool of.

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e0bbd4  No.828159

>>828014

If anyone was wondering what heresy looks like this is it

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