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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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b6422f  No.825829

Is it really possible to reconcile Marxism–Leninism with Christianity? Purely on a theorical, ideological and theological basis.

Historical relations between the two are irrelevant now.

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b6678d  No.825830

>>825829

With the end result, possibly, if it was truly stateless and voluntary, and with some divine hierarchies still in place. With a single one of the means of getting there? Absolutely not. Historical relations are not irrelevant, one of the titles of our God is "Lord of History."

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4d0b16  No.825831

How do you reconcile being a slave to the state and not being allowed to own property with being a servant of God again? You ask why not, I ask you to explain how you think it's possible.

Any form of Marxism is a sin.

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f4029e  No.825836

It is completely incompatible because Marxist ideology at its core is materialist-atheist. It is a system and a philosophy where social good is measured empirically through the amount of goods available to people.

Christianity can't side with Marxism any more than it can side with Greed. Our path is more difficult.

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edc911  No.825874

>>825829

In a word, no. The Christian kingdom is timeless; the only requirements of citizenship are the recognition that Jesus Christ is Lord, and the acceptance of His spirit. The Marxian kingdom is in every way an idolatrous Babylon, a confused place where everything which is wrong is called good.

It's like asking if there is a place in heaven for hell.

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37d4f8  No.825886

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In terms of pure economics, it might be possible. Philosophically, communism is materialistic and anti-theistic, but if we were to trash all of that (as we rightfully should) and only consider the economic theories of marxism, it might be possible.

If you think about it, the traditional Christian family unit (as described in The Bible itself) is communistic. We have a father, a mother, and children. The father is the provider who brings home the bread and distributes the resources among his family, the mother who does not work still earns her stay by doing house work and caring for the children. The children cannot earn their stay, but receive everything they need anyways. This looks to me like Karl Marx's own rule, "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need" being followed perfectly. There are ascetic monks who live in completely autonomous monasteries that practice a sort of communism in the sense that everyone does work, and everyone receives the same amount of resources. These monasteries are usually very primitivistic and agrarian, the introduction to technology into this system, I think poses many problems, and also there is the problem with volunteerism. The monks do this voluntarily because they knew the lifestyle they were choosing when they became monks. If one of these monasteries were to be converted into a commune where people will raise their children, there is no guarantee that the newer generations will follow this practice and take advantage of the system.

In conclusion, I think it is possible for Christians to follow marxist economics (but definitely not marxist philosophy or social policy) without violating Christian ethics, and a Christian nation could potentially institute a marxist economic system, but that system would fail so it's largely pointless to think about.

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063eba  No.825905

THEORETICALLY yes, with God nothing is impossible, however I highly doubt it would ever work in practice.

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637684  No.825909

>>825829

No, because Marxism denies the true nature of Creation. It assumes every human beings are equal and that therefore no hierarchy can exist between them. This is wrong since people are born different in many ways. As >>825836 pointed out, its goal is the well being of the community, and to that end every mean is justified. This is not christian, since the end doesn't justify the means. Moreover, the goal of the society should be the salvation of souls, not its own well being.

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00e1d0  No.825921

You can not reconcile anything of this world, half-truths and deceptions like Marxism with Christianity. Doing so would involve severe cognitive dissonance and yourself being automatically anathematized.

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4d0b16  No.825926

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>communist murder 120 million people, target Christians, burn Churches.

>Maybe we can make a Christian communism?

Let's not.

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