I have a spiritual question, /christians/. My brother, was what would be conceived as a practicing Christian, until recent events which found him denouncing churches as "synagogues" for their "persecution", claims the Catholics are blatant evil among oth

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Christanon 07/30/19 (Tue) 03:12:44 4da832 No.823998

I have a spiritual question, /christians/.

My brother, was what would be conceived as a practicing Christian, until recent events which found him denouncing churches as "synagogues" for their "persecution", claims the Catholics are blatant evil among other things. He also believes God is "collective consciousness" and that by meditation (eastern), you can access "heaven" and that heaven isn't a literal place that you go. He seems to believe Jesus Christ was a "yogi" and that He gave us the path to enlightenment hidden in His parables. What do I say to refute this, that cannot be turned around as "ah yeah well you need to look into it more because I know more than you"?

Also, what is your opinion on this, /christianity/? Is God truly a being or is He consciousness, and is heaven really just another dimension?

He believes in all that chakra nonsense too, I've attempted to warn him but he instantly dismisses me because he feels he knows more about God. He's tried to get me to meditate but I have had a bad feeling about it ever since it has surfaced and I need guidance. He also believes that the church isn't the body, but rather the "keepers of the law" or pharisees.

What do? I feel like my words are falling on deaf ears and I can tell by the fruits he bears that he is changing and falling from grace.

Christanon 07/30/19 (Tue) 03:59:26 c521b8 No.824003

He is being deceived by Satan into the "New" Age Religion. "New" is in quotes because there's nothing new about it. It's an ancient religion that goes right back to the days of pagan idolatry and sacrificing infants in ovens.

Christanon 07/30/19 (Tue) 04:02:48 c521b8 No.824004

I know because I've BEEN THERE. Meditation only opens you up for contact with demons. No lie, I've seen and met countless people saying they met an entity while meditating and followed it home. Who or what could these entites be? Certainly not the demons that Jesus cast out on a daily basis. Couln't be

Christanon 07/30/19 (Tue) 04:04:25 c521b8 No.824005

Pray for him to find his way again, hes in dangerous waters, literally entrapped by the devil in his New Age religion that will be the One World religion in the coming age when the Antichrist begins his reign

Christanon 07/30/19 (Tue) 04:06:49 c521b8 No.824006

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Show him this

Christanon 07/30/19 (Tue) 07:14:22 b61cbc No.824019

>>823998

Standard New Age nonsense. He's wrong even by the standards of actual Buddhism (nothing like what New Agers think it is), so I would ignore it entirely.

>Collective consciousness.

Nope. That would be a form of pantheism. While some in the Orthodox Church do apparently subscribe to panentheism, that's something else again too. In the Catholic Church, God is taught to be separate from creation. That's not a bad thing though, and He still permeates it with His presence! You're "real" in other words, you aren't just an figment in His imagination or a cell in His body. And He is also an active Person not just an abstract force. Now, that's not to say He's a giant sky-man - and certainly from our limited viewpoint He can seem like a big incomprehensible force sometimes, but he's got goals, intelligence and the like. This is all standard theology though, I'd say DYOR as any attempt to explain the nature of God in one post is gonna be more misleading than not.

Honestly, the Catholic & Orthodox tradition have such rich meditation disciplines, if he was looking for a little more direct connection & inner peace he should've explored that instead. It'd be nice if the Church made more noise about that. Pope Benedict was very keen on getting more people into the Lectio Divina technique for example (the current guy probably wants us to all do Zen or something, smh). And as for corruption - well, there's no shortage of that in the New Age world, so he might not find it as satisfying & innocent as he thinks.