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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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8347d1  No.811880

Note to mods: If something here is against the rules, please just remove it, I am not trying to do anything to get banned! Thank you!

Hi everyone! So I've been noticing lately that from all the disaffected communities that have sprung up because of the clown world we live in, many of them are quite open to the ultimate truth, the Bread Pill, which is not only the ultimate explanation of why we are in this mess, but also how get out of it. What follows is what I think are the different things that someone has to be awake to:

Yeah, I think we have to convert people basically. There are various stages or things you have to convert people on though, but I think the harvest is white.

Basically the topics I think you have to convert/red pill people on are:

Degeneracy: Start with Trans, then LGB, then Fornication, Pornography, Masturbation, then you can link in Birth Control as the key which caused all of this

Culture/Demographics: Changing demographics leads to instability. The point of a nation is for stability (ideally stability so we can focus on following God instead of nonsense around). Not all cultures are equal. Show people onto the objective superiority of western culture, then show it is a fruit of the Church. For example Michelangelo's sculptures, the Sistene Chapel, Mozart, Vivaldi, would never have been created if Mohammedans took over. Drawings, Sculptures, Music is all forbidden etc. Strong bonds with your family is important, having tradition and history, and so on.

Why did things change so fast, who is doing this?: Start with "the media", "oligarchs", "people in power", move on up to yeah, they all seem to share something in common.

Why do our enemies do this to us?: No it's not Genetic, it's theological. They hate us because the only thing they have in common is the rejection of Christ. They are rebelling against Logos which is Christ, they are obsessed with revolution and proving Christianity wrong by trying to find their own Messiah, because deep down they know they missed the boat but are too prideful to admit it. They want to destroy Christianity and Christians and Western Civilization (the fruit of the Church) and their lands and so on to assert their superiority and our inferiority. If their father is the Devil, then their primary sin is that their father's, Pride. Show them E Michael Jones

The Bread Pill - The explanation for the clown world is also the solution to it. Come back to Christ. Become Trad (Cat - still the only Church which doctrine still says no to birth control, no to divorce, no to sodomy). It's the only place you can actually find a virgin. They don't exist in bars or on apps thats for sure. At a Trad cat parish you can marry a girl who doesn't believe in birth control, doesn't believe in divorce. Have many kids, homeschool them. Be devoted to Christ and the Church, it will keep you away from degeneracy. Quit with all the degeneracy otherwise you will not be ready to get married.

Preach the word to everyone: Once you've understood all of this, your mission is also to wake up as many people as you can. Use your talents. Whether it's forum posts/messages/tweets/blogposts/books, or art (images, memes, music, videos) to spread this message. They destroyed our society through media, we have to use the same media to heal us and conquer it. The difference is that we have the truth, and the darkness will not overcome the light.

People maybe awake to a few of those points but not all of them or be sort of half awake or in stages on some of those points, which is why I tried to show the progression of how awake they get on a certain point. I think we have to find people who are somewhere along the journey and try and guide them along where they are.

What do you guys think? Any thoughts on the matter? Thanks for reading!

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30992c  No.811881

>>811880

>A true Christian, who is born anew of the Spirit of Christ, is in the simplicity of Christ, and hath no strife or contention with any man about religion. The Christendom that is in Babel striveth about the manner how men ought to serve God and glorify him; also, how they are to know him, and what he is in his Essence and Will. And they preach positively that whosoever is not one and the same with them in every particular of knowledge and opinion, is no Christian, but a heretic. But a Christian is of no sect. He can dwell in the midst of sects, and appear in their services, without being attached or bound to any. He hath but one knowledge, and that is, Christ in him. He seeketh but one way, which is the desire always to do and teach that which is right; and he putteth all his knowing and willing into the Life of Christ. He sigheth and wisheth continually that the Will of God might be done in him, and that his Kingdom might be manifested in him. His faith is a desire after God and Goodness, which he wrappeth up in a sure hope, trusting to the words of the promise, and liveth and dieth therein; though as to the true man, he never dieth. For Christ saith: Whosoever believeth in me shall never die, but hath pierced through from death to life; and, Rivers of living water shall flow from him, viz. good doctrine and works. Therefore I say that whosoever fighteth and contendeth about the Letter, is all Babel. The Letters of the Word proceed from, and stand all in, one Root, which is the Spirit of God; as the various flowers stand all in the earth, and grow about one another. They fight not with each other about their difference of colour, smell, and taste, but suffer the earth, the sun, the rain, the wind, the heat, and cold, to do with them as they please; and yet every one of them groweth in its own peculiar essence and property.It is the greatest folly that is in Babel for people to strive about religion, so that they contend vehemently about opinions of their own forging, viz. about the Letter. When the Kingdom of God consisteth of no Opinion, but in Power and Love.

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8347d1  No.811886

>>811881

No Protestanism please. Thank you!

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ed4232  No.812117

If you want to make more christians get married and have kids.

Evagelizing is not as effective as it used to be due to the satanic propaganda of atheism, plus people need to suffer the consequences of their degeneracy because that is the only chance they will understand why sin is wrong and come to Christ.

If you want a strong christian future, you gotta build tall an invest in your family life first, have kids and raise them christian. Use your spare resources to evangelize but expect no mass conversions. The most cost-effective way of making more christians is monogamous, virtuous marriages where you sacrifice your life on the altar of God for your children.

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16fa11  No.812124

>>811880

Good thread OP.

>Have many kids, homeschool them

I take it Catholic schools today are pozzed?

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908442  No.812126

>>812124

Not just catholic schools but everything western tbh

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8347d1  No.812143

>>812117

This is just simply not true. Loads of people are coming to Christ. For example that zoomer Nick Fuentes has brought so many people back to Christ already and let them to the Catholic Church just for not being ashamed of being a Catholic and defending it and "Making Christianity cool again". It's happening everywhere and if you know the right communities like I said many people are very open to listening to the message.

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7a0ebf  No.812144

Be honest and forthcoming about the state of Christendom. Acknowledge the shortcomings of the Earthly Church. Emphasize that we are all sinners, even the bishops, archbishops, preachers, priests, deacons, popes, monks, nuns, and the laity. It is a church made of men, it is like all things we do filled with trouble. Never let the actions of sinners blind you to the Truth of Christ Himself. Show the meaninglessness of all other paths, and how even though this is fraught with doubt, uncertainty, and even abuse that it is the True path.

As for your outline: I wouldn't waste time evangelizing to those online. Let them come to you. You would be casting your pearls before swine, not welcoming a lost brother. It puts them on the active defense and breeds contempt. Such a move could work in an environment more open and consistent, where he has the opportunity to recognize you more personally. But here there is very little point. The mind has been made up, and they will dig themselves deeper with your shovel.

When they come here, do not ban them so quickly. Learn to calmly and politely direct them to a better thread to discuss a topic. Perhaps we should seriously consider an outsiders thread, but the merits for and against it are great and many. It would be very risky. Either way, be civil and polite, yet firm and steady. Do not be so quick to name-calling and sarcasm.

>Why do our enemies hate us?

Genetics + Memetics. Never deny the importance of any aspect of life. Not only is it fundamentally erroneous, but it's just going to piss them off. Emphasis over rejection. Accept that it is a factor, but not the lone or prominent factor.

I would avoid using words like "trad" or "based" or "cool" to describe true belief. Just say honest and strong. Focus on the actual belief and not the external trappings. You only create weak-hearted spiritualists and trend-followers who will just as quickly blow into Christianity as they blow out of it for whatever else they feel like is cool or trad or fashy. Evangelism is meaningless if all you want is numbers. That is exactly the mindset that has led to the state of all the modern churches. Quantity means nothing, quality means everything.

t. Orthodox

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7a0ebf  No.812147

>>812143

It's trendy. Orthodoxy, Catholicism, Anglicanism, all are "trendy" for its "tradness". Easy come, easy go. This is not a problem that can be fixed when they are in the pews. Their mind will already be gone before they even sit down.

I'd rather a man be honestly deluded than disingenuously right. Honesty is the first lean to the fear of God, but lying is the first lean away from it.

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0116cf  No.812153

>>812147

But don't you think that yearning for tradition is a good entry point for the faith. Of course larping is bad, put people larp because they admire some aspect of Christianity (history, art, architecture, etc).

I agree that larping should only be a stage hopefully a brief one in coming back to Christ. If it doesn't come with spiritual growth it just turns into hypocrisy.

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7a0ebf  No.812155

>>812153

I'm operating on the assumption that they've already approached instead of us going out and headhunting as it were. It's the first step, but in the process of evangelizing, there should be a portion where you de-emphasize the aesthetics and external trappings and really engage in the meat of it. That even includes dropping the "theological assertions and doctrinal arguments". That is still a part of evangelization that most people suddenly forget, push onto the individual. Then they are shocked he quickly leaves. No one was there to foster him in the right way. No one nipped the poisoned buds before the bloomed, and they are appalled that he is rotten when the soil he was planted in was loose and poisoned itself.

This goes back to my earlier point ; emphasis, not rejection. It is absolutely true that there is beauty in the Church, in most churches I would argue. But at a point in the discussion, you should de-emphasize that and challenge them as if they were defenders. It's a way of showing the honesty we are meant to preach, to show the love that we express. Christ isn't just comfort and reassuarances, but a challenge to us. These guys we're talking about, they likely have never held a sincere faithful belief. They're clinging to vague notions of tradition and truth, thinking they've got it figured out as they bounce from one set of answers to another. The more you reinforce the aesthetics the more they cling to those notions and not to the faith itself. The faith becomes the tool instead. That's the best case scenario. There are some out there who are vipers and see Christianity as merely a tool to use for their own gain, just as they see all other ideologies as tools.

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8347d1  No.812161

>>812147

Anglicanism and trendy? C'mon you can't be serious. Also you're discounting people who are coming back to the faith as a trend just because what, you aren't bringing people to the faith? The apostles converted loads of peoples, St. Francis Xavier converted loads of people, and some even though the faith was new to them, endured so much persecution even unto death for it. You people are a bunch of blackpilled losers who don't want to do anything. "Oh well no one gets converted anyways" "Oh it's just trendy they don't really mean it". Ridiculous.

>>812144

Trad/Traditional is a common word used amongst younger people and it has a definitive connotation. People are open to considering Catholicism when they hear "Traditional Catholicism" because rightly so a regular parish is pretty bad and probably damaging to their faith. "for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."

If you want to use different words go for it.

>As for your outline: I wouldn't waste time evangelizing to those online

This is a stupid joke, I've already actually lead some people to consider the church, and I know others who have been very successful.

Seriously you people are all a bunch of losers not wanting to do any work. Sheesh.

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7a0ebf  No.812168

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>>812161

>you aren't bringing people to the faith

>blackpilled losers who don't want to do anything

>This is a stupid joke

>you people are a bunch of losers

Did you not read what I wrote? I said "let them come to you". That's humility, the true path forward. This is the sort of attitude that we shouldn't be using. It's a fire that burns twice as bright but lasts half as long. This happens very often.What happened to the last trendy ideology? Do you not think they said to themselves "I've got it figured out!" 6 or 8 months before they burned out and quit? I wouldn't want that weighing on my soul, to have tricked someone close to Christ only to have them recoil from it.

You get embarassing videos like the embed following your train of thought.

If you're going out to throw breadcrumbs, certainly those are fine points to begin. But that shouldn't be the end or even anything beyond the knock on the door. Emphasis, not rejection. Emphasize that those were fruits, not the root itself. Draw more attention to the roots, accept the flaws. Humility and honesty are better than bravado and lies. When you're talking in a thread and start bringing up Christianity, be humble about it. Fire and brimstone just piss people off and entrench them against you. An honest discussion brings more to Christ, it makes them curious at least. sage when it starts to veer off-topic to show respect.

>I've actually lead some to consider the church, and I know others who have been very successful

As I too have seen many others fall from it after their conversion. We both operate on our anecdotal evidence.

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8347d1  No.813094

>>812168

You're an idiot who's never read the Bible. Wait aren't you Orthodox? Yeah a church that has never evangelized anything. No wonder you're total garbage on this issue. Please feel free to stop replying to this thread, what utter trash.

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8347d1  No.813095

>>812168

>>812168

> I wouldn't want that weighing on my soul, to have tricked someone close to Christ only to have them recoil from it.

You're seriously retarded and probably autistic or something. What trick is there? Let them come to you. Yeah better not have any evangelizing missions. That's why your heretical church is garbage and Catholics are around the world. Please no heretics in these threads, go have sex with a condom while your "Father" tells girls to eat birth control and you get divorced. The Catholic church has never taught any errors or flaws unlike your heretical "church" which is full of errors. You literally think Anglicanism is trendy. You are so disconnected from reality.

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8347d1  No.813096

>>812144

>Why do our enemies hate us?

>Genetics + Memetics

Also you're a racist, and unironically using the word Memetics while saying I don't like the word "trad". Yeah go worship Dawkins.YIKES. Well I've been pretty successful so far. Just another person has started to read up on the Baltimore Catechism and so on. Meanwhile you stay doing nothing. What trash.

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59014b  No.813099

>>812124

>I take it Catholic schools today are pozzed?

Very

http://cathnews.com/cathnews/35122-girls-schools-drop-gendered-language-in-prayer

>Clayfield and Stuartholme are stamping out traditional terms such as Lord, Father and Son.

>Stuartholme School uses gender-neutral language – including the word “Godself’’ in place of “himself’’.

>“As we believe God is neither male or female, Stuartholme tries to use gender-neutral terms in prayers … so that our community deepens their understanding of who God is for them, how God reveals Godself through creation, our relationships with others and the person of Jesus,” a spokeswoman said.

>Students at All Hallows’ make the sign of the cross in the name of “The Creator, Jesus and the Holy Spirit’’, instead of the traditional “Father, Son and Holy Spirit”.

>Loreto College in Coorparoo has stripped the word “Lord” from its prayers, as it is regarded as a “male term”.

>“Loreto, as a leading school for girls, has a commitment to using inclusive language. There are occasions where gendered language may be -appropriate, including references to specific religious and biblical figures,” principal Kim Wickham said.

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7f8f0f  No.813106

>>812143

Most of them are just racists larping as Christian

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0e2047  No.813107

A good portion of the memes and aesthetics floating around are actually kind of cringe. Lasting converts will be convinced by solid theological arguments rather than "when you read Aquinas bottom text deus vult" garbage you see floating around tradcath twitter

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8e5b6e  No.813518

>>813106

>Most of them are just racists larping as Christian

Two years ago I was larping as well.

This year on Pentecost I got baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.

God finds a way.

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d4a1b5  No.813559

>>813094

>>813095

>>813096

>You're an idiot who's never read the Bible.

>You're seriously retarded and probably autistic

>Also you're a racist

>YIKES.

>What trash.

Look here folks, "Tradcath" evangelism at it's finest.

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