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I didn't kiss a girl until I was 25, then I married her at 26. Don't worry man, you'll get there. How old are you? Early 20s? I will pray for you.

>>799106

I'm in the same situation anon.

I'm 21 years old and the only gf I've ever had was in freshman year of high school, still a virgin

>>799120

>still a virgin

Sincerely, good for you. Keep it that way until after the wedding.

I'm not praying for that shit, man. Get a hold of yourself and stop being a pussy. There are more important things than your dick desires. Sorry to be harsh, but it's true.

i have no wife, i haven't do anything productive to get one, why me?, god doesn't respond

>>799106

praying won't get you anything. Go talk to girls

Reminder that having a girlfriend is degenerate and adulterous

If you are not doing courtship mediated by your parents, what you are doing is prolonged adultery. Marriage is the only proper place for romance. Trying to do it outside of marriage is just setting yourself up for sexual sin.

>>799585

lol we /islam/ now

>>799585

Sort of this. I think anything done between to unmarried "daters" that expresses any kind of ownership over the woman is wrong. This includes hugging and hand holding. Unmarried couples who winnie the pooh cuddle and shit at mass make me winnie the pooh sick. It sounds like a lot to ask, but it really isn't if you both are on the same page about it and about what marriage actually is. If you are, you can "date" for like 6 months and pretty much know if it's gonna work out or not. Having it mediated by your parents is retarded though, most parents will get their daughters on birth control willingly these days.

>>799592

Back to reddit, cuck

>>799592

WE WUZ MUJAHIDEEN!

>>799601

Having it mediated by the parents is no less than what is expressed in the Bible. Simple as

"Take wives for your sons and give your daughters to husbands"

Jeremiah 36:6

for reasons probably having to do with

>if you both are on the same page about it and about what marriage actually is.

Women these days grow up being fed the extended courtship model and serial monogamy. They will see you trying to pressure them into marriage as being a needy loser who is raising the stakes way too high for something that's supposed to be fun and meaningless in the early stages. Even if she is a good Christian who understands your reasoning, she still might want to drag it out to see if she can't trade up for a better man.

You bypass this by completely ignoring what she thinks and going through her family instead. Of course, there are indeed a lot of cuck dads out there that won't go along with traditional courtship, which is yet another reason one should find a traditionalist parish.

>>799592

>lol we /islam/ now

Go back to /r/Christianity you happy Jesus lukewarm heretic.

>>799612

>You bypass this by completely ignoring what she thinks and going through her family instead. Of course, there are indeed a lot of cuck dads out there that won't go along with traditional courtship, which is yet another reason one should find a traditionalist parish.

Where do you find a "traditionalist parish" in end times Europe?

>>799106

Eh, look here. This kind of belongs to relationship thread. Sometimes I pray for people who seek wife as I do.

But the catch here is: why did you not talk to any girls at all?

I mean…prayer is powerful it is necessary. But it won't do much help if you do not get out there and talk to girls. Other than blogposting in separate threads…make attempts, pray, post about your progress in relationship general and get hold of your situation more. This just looks like whining online instead of doing something >>799537 is right. Our prayers won't mean much if you do not get hold of yourself.

Get to self improvement first of all.

>>799106

>Please help me find a girl to love. :(

> I've never held a girl in my arms before, nor have I ever kissed one.

> girlfriend that I could marry one day.

Are you the man that would be a good father? A stable center that would support his wife? Are you out there already having your sh*t together looking for the woman of your dreams?

If not you know exactly what to do. On the top of that pray

>>799601

There is literally nothing wrong with dating

>>799585

Most Christians idea of dating is just courtship. Settle down.

>>799728

>woman of your dreams

I just vomited in my mouth.

>>799612

>just find a based old man to let you have his daughter, bro!

No one would do that

>>799875

Fathers happily support a man who has something to offer

>>799106

I have prayed for you OP

>>799770

why

>>799601

Dating is not the same thing as adultery. You know..if you want to marry a woman you need to know her well. Arranged marriages are no longer a thing. To get to know her you need to date her in a sense that you go out with her, talk with her..basically find out who she is.

Perhaps if you two

>>799601

>>799585

had a girlfriend at some point in your life you would understand that having a girlfriend does not mean you masturbate/fornicate.

>>799106

You've gotta put effort into improving yourself and meeting women if you want a gf, anon.

>>799585

>Reminder that having a girlfriend is degenerate and adulterous

Only if you choose to engage in those activities. As the man in the relationship, don't tolerate cohabiting, drinking, or anything else between the two of you that could lead to fornication, and you'll be fine.

>If you are not doing courtship mediated by your parents

Implying all of us have parents who are devout Christians in stable marriages, and implying said parents have our best interests in mind. This is a generation of druggie, childish, liberal Baby Boomers with high divorce rates we're talking about, anon. My dad bitched at me when I turned 18 because he could no longer collect social security off me and put that money towards getting high.

>>799601

>Having it mediated by your parents is retarded though, most parents will get their daughters on birth control willingly these days

Yep. Most mothers encourage their daughters to get into """modeling""" for heaven's sake, and the fathers just sit back and allow it like the castrated faggots they are. How are parents like these supposed to be mediators?

>>800496

shut up, slut

>>800775

based

>>799106

Don't worry about the world and it's degenerate milestones. Pray to God, let Him guide you in this search.

Also improving yourself couldn't hurt, but this can become a great vanity too.

There is so much vanity and so little humility in our world today. Humility is the characteristic of a Godly woman.

>>800775

>Speaking to women is ADULTERY

>Shut uo slut

t. Larper who cannot even ask a girl out for a coffee

this is a slide thread. quality of last decent board in the world dwindling fast. just a reminder. mods wake up now

>>800935

>stupid Incel can't ask a girl out! He thinks all women are sluts because of muh echo chamber!

No, sweaty. I'm 6'2, white, blue eyes, broad shoulders, and if a girl says yes to a date, it's because she wants dick 99% of the time. It's worse the older she is. And even the shy girls who are afraid and nervous about sex will eventually let some guy winnie the pooh them.

>ask a girl out for coffee (I hate coffee btw)

>she says yes

>finish date, she says she had fun

>gives me snapchat

>snap chats me at 10pm later

>starts sending me unsolicited pics of her tits

>just ignore it/play oblivious and eventually tell her Im going to sleep

>go out for dinner next time

>she's more touchy this time

>go to leave and she's hanging on my arm, tries to kiss me, etc.

>take her home

Eventually…

>anon, why won't you respond to my signals? Waaaaaah! You think I'm ugly! Why won't you winnie the pooh me? Are you too afraid? Yada Yada Yada…

Every single time, or worse. Why should I even bother with someone who doesn't have the same endgame as me? You literally just have to get lucky and find a unicorn, and all the unicorns are usually taken by soft little bitch men before they graduate high school. Close your legs and go back to Crystal cafe, sweaty

>>801186

This is so true its ridiculous

>>801186

Based Chad post.

>>801186

>No, sweaty. I'm 6'2, white, blue eyes, broad shoulders, and if a girl says yes to a date, it's because she wants dick 99% of the time. It's worse the older she is. And even the shy girls who are afraid and nervous about sex will eventually let some guy winnie the pooh them.

Maybe you should stop going for Asian women you racist prick

https://reddit.com/r/hapas

I'm about to break up with my girlfriend, it's really not all that great and a lot of stress that comes with the relationship. But I guess it's better to be hurt than to feel nothing…

>>801350

Good luck! It's gonna hurt at first, but let your sorrows be known to God and He will be your comfort. It'll get better.

>>801186

Sorry if this is your case. I am not sweaty, not as tall as yourself, my eyes are not blue but I am of european ancestry average looking guy. I did not have the experience you had because I rejected the thots early on…some girl sending me tits, etc. never happened then. My first gf was liberal about sex, but others were not at all. And even the first one was not a thot as you describe it. I guess I encountered 3 unicorns in my life then…2 definitely who had the intention to have sex after marriage.

> Close your legs and go back to Crystal cafe, sweaty

Ok. then. You are all aggressive when someone counters your opinion then act all hurt and throw even more insults. You must be a fun guy to be around for sure.

>Why should I even bother with someone who doesn't have the same endgame as me?

That's why you exclude whores early on, on the very first date.

>Every single time, or worse

I have went out for a coffee with few thots too…but when I recognized they were thots I never asked them out again.

>You literally just have to get lucky and find a unicorn, and all the unicorns are usually taken by soft little bitch men before they graduate high school.

Ok. then just give up. If anyone trying to motivate you is sweaty loser, not as blue eyed aryan chad, why even listen to them right.

Anyway I am sorry to hear this is your experience. Too bad then. But that

1) does not make others losers/sweaty

2)does not make all women thots - most of them today are however. Choose the path you like: trying and failing, eventually finding the woman or giving up, that's your choice

3)does not make dating a sin de facto. There is dating and then there is sex dating.

because you do not have to have sex with the girl you date, you do not need to masturbate her or anything. You may even refrain from kissing if she is that conservative.

Please explain how this courtship is sinful. I get that your experience is bad but that does not mean dating is by default sinful. And I do not see a great prospect in the "courtship permeated by father first". But by all means go ahead and try that I am curious about how that works out for you.

Good luck Chad.

>>801335

>>801293

he may be right about the general state of most women but defeatism is not that based.

>>801375

First off I wasn't trying to call you a sweaty loser. I was implying that you were a woman. It doesn't seem like English is your first language, I was just joking a little. And I don't deny that unicorns exist, but they're hard to find unless you're born into some kind of community of decent people. I was not. If you've met 3 of them, then I assume you probably have a good community based around your church and the people there don't look at you like some kind of delinquent. Which is why I said that most actual unicorns are taken early by guys who are born I to the church and whose parents have friends with kids in the church so there is already an icebreaker for them to meet. And like I said, the guys who end up with these unicorns usually are effeminate and don't realize what they have. This is just my experience in America, maybe it is different where you live.

So yeah, call me a defeatist all you want, but I'm not gonna waste my time looking for unicorns. I have to work for a living, I'm not some college kid living off my parents money with 4 years of free time to go look for pussy. And anyway, it's really not that important to me. Having a wife and kids isn't the point of life, the point is to be saved and see the face of god. Everything else is secondary. I always see people calling guys like me "defeatist" and I think it's winnie the pooh retarded. One time me and my friend decided to go to this river and pan for gold. We spent hours and hours over the course of two weekends sifting through dirt and sand and only got a couple little flakes of gold. We even spent 100 bucks on this bucket thing that helps you filter out rocks and larger grit. Plus all the gas money we spent and food we had to buy. eventually we cut our losses and give up. We were retarded for thinking we could get rich from pulling money out of the dirt. Does this make us "defeatists" like you say?

Good luck finding your unicorn bro, I really sincerely hope you do. I don't want you to end up alone your whole life. I don't want to either, but I just can't be bothered to dedicate any time to what I see as a fools errand.

Don’t be a doomer, friends.

I found a wonderful woman when I thought I never would.

>>801417

Oh, Ok. I am not woman and not an englishman.

>America

yeah maybe that's the issue but this shit comes to Europe too for sure. One of them I know little, we were together for few months…but my ex and the current gf are both classified as unicorns by today's standards. So I guess right now I have found second unicorn…and I want to continue my bloodline so I will take the chances…maybe it's the thing that our countries are very different, mine is not as degenerate as yours to make me that pessimist about everything.

My first and foremost point was not that you are defeatist, but that dating is not a sin. You guys never expanded on that besides calling out the degeneracy of modern age. Then you claim that all dating is futile because women are degenerate. Well let us suppose there are few good women at least in my area there are. In your area there might be less of them…but God may send you a good woman. I was on the verge of being defeatist half a year ago.

>Does this make us "defeatists" like you say?

Nope. But I don't know man. The european birth rates are all time low and we're not doing fine so I will rather waste time trying than doing nothing at all. I know it is not everything,but I think this is my path so I will take it. If you feel like you have a different path, be on it, sure.

>>801427

Every country is as sinful as the next if you look in the right places.

>>801427

Courting is not the same as dating. Dating is a vague modern concept that may or may not involve fornication. It also involves the man investing money, time into strangers that he barely gets to know. That is not how couples used to meet in Christian societies.

Then the word of the Lord came to me: “You must not marry and have sons or daughters in this place.” For this is what the Lord says about the sons and daughters born in this land and about the women who are their mothers and the men who are their fathers: “They will die of deadly diseases. They will not be mourned or buried but will be like dung lying on the ground. They will perish by sword and famine, and their dead bodies will become food for the birds and the wild animals.” (Jeremiah 16:1-4)

In the same boat at 28.

I've finally been made to understand that it would be a mistake for me to marry right now.

A husband must be able to guide and teach his wife and children spiritually, with knowledge, conviction, careful study, and grace, and furthermore he must do it constantly.

I am not capable of that right now. I've always been soft on this.

Anons, you must become mature men of Christ who can teach if you wish to be husbands.