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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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228305  No.798772

Ancient (pre-christ) Judaism vs Modern (post Christ) Judaism. Is it correct to say that Ancient Judaism (including the Hebrews and Israelites) are not part of Modern (talmud, or even non-talmud) Judaism?

The reason i made this thread is if there is a good answer to people who can't get over "bible sez jews" meme, even though they're two very different and opposing religions.

228305  No.798776

I'm also not 100% sure if this belongs in the /christianpol/ thread.


8771d9  No.798778

>>798772

The pharisees denied Christ, and are not the Jews of the old testament.

Modern Ashkenazi Jews aren't even related to the pharisees and are actually Khazars, a Turkic people who adopted a corrupted form of Judaism based on the Talmud instead of the Torah.


228305  No.798781

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>>798778

Khazar theory? That was weak credibility though, Do you have a source?


f486a8  No.798805

>>798772

You see there was no "judaism" before Christ. There was the religion of the 12 tribes of Israel, sure. There was the Law, the old covenant, sure.

Consider this:

>12 tribes

>ONE of them is tribe of Judah

>All of them await Messiah

>Judea becomes multicultural society, there are converts to the faith.

>Messiah comes

>Pharisees basically worship themselves at this point already

>"they crucify Jesus

>MUH WE ARE CHOSENITES, the only tribe, tribe of Judah.

>Then the "jew" appears instead of "Judean". The term jew applies even to converts.

Look here. I am not even pushing the Khazar theory but it is blatant that Ashkenazi are quite different from other jews, there are even black jews and asian jews.

Being jew is matrilinear…that means that if the father is even black or anything,….you're still a jew. Given this and the khazar theory…..(Nobody claims that all jews are Khazars. But eastern european jews probably are. Given the fact that they were converts from turks)….the notion of "ethnic homogenity" is preposterous as is preposterous to claim someone is "chosen" or saved simply on grounds of his genetics.

But hey,…it makes then sense that jews push race mixing, constantly tell you that you should mix with blacks/asians/whatever because you're mixed anyway. All they do is projection.

And it all comes down to pharisees rejecting Logos, crucifying Jesus Christ. I think that the term "Judaism" itself mocks God, who first established the tribes of Israel(12 of them) as his chosen, then the tribes disappeared, the one broke the covenant by rejecting messiah. The new covenant was then for all people..the Church became the new Israel. But you have the group of mongrels/turks/perhaps few original Judeans ,who knows, creating Talmud, rejecting everything good, creating "judaism" and larping as "Israel".

tl dr: Whoever claims that "judaism" is a legit religion that is the old testament religion is not Christian because that directly negates divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Better terms are Phariseeism or Talmudism because that is what it comes down to.

>>798781

As far as the Khazar theory is concerned….the Khazar empire existed, they were converts and some of their descendants are definitely part of today's jewry. So by default you see there are various ethnic groups, not a homogenic ethnic lineage.


f486a8  No.798806

The old testament religion is Christianity just before Christ being born.

Christianity is not a reaction to Judaism

Judaism is a reaction to Christianity, it is literally rejecting the Truth, God.

It cannot be the other way around.

The Truth is not a rebellion against the lie. The lie distorts the Truth, rebels against it.

Not the other way around


8cd0d3  No.798815

>Temple sacrifice

Nope

>Laws being enforced

Nope

The talmud and rabbinical judaism are just big lists of excuses and loopholes for why they're not fulfilling their end of the covenant (not that that covenant is still valid anyway).




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