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>>791277

>Is anyone else unsettled by this?

Not me

>What should we make of this?

That we're small humble creations of God

>What would Christ and the apostles say if questioned about it?

Christ would say "I made this and bring order to this and this shall be your inheritance if you follow me" The apostles would probably just use it to demonstrate how grand God is.

>What if there are humanoid aliens?

There isn't (or they're demons).

As big as the universe is, it's still small next to God's infinite love.

>>791277

>What if there are humanoid aliens?

If they aren't sinless, they must have experienced a fall and need Christ. Assuming he has not already visited them in some way. I think meeting aliens would not be a huge challenge to Christianity. It never says in the Bible there is no other life out there. Assuming they must be demons would be a problem.

>>791277

>Is anyone else unsettled by this?

No

>What should we make of this?

Nothing

>What would Christ and the apostles say if questioned about it?

They said that all that was and will be ours if we will be with God and wont be prodigal sons

>What if there are humanoid aliens?

Thats nothing to be concerned about

Also, overall, basing something on this is simply stupid. The fact that humans are made in image and likeness of God, makes single human life infinitively more important than rest of the universe.

>>791349

>Assuming he has not already visited them in some way.

That is heresy according to the V Ecumenical council

>If anyone shall say that Christ, of whom it is said that he appeared in the form of God, and that he was united before all time with God the Word, and humbled himself in these last days even to humanity, had (according to their expression) pity upon the various falls which had appeared in the spirits united in the same unity (of which he himself is part), and that to restore them he passed through various classes, had different bodies and different names, became all to all, an Angel among Angels, a Power among Powers, has clothed himself in the different classes of reasonable beings with a form corresponding to that class, and finally has taken flesh and blood like ours and has become man for men; [if anyone says all this] and does not profess that God the Word humbled himself and became man: let him be anathema.

>>791277

Earth is the center of the universe suggested by this cosmological enigma:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_of_evil_(cosmology)

Religionism is based on the idea that humans are somehow significant and the center of the universe. Just read Genesis 1, the earth and stars/planets/moon under the dome is all there is and the only thing else are the waters of chaos above. Of course, with the advent of reason and science we now know we are not the center of it all and that we are very insignificant. This has pushed all the deities and religions back, but of course modern day religionist can't accept the idea that their worldview has been entirely disproven. The fact of the matter is though that humans are not special, there is no divine watching over us, there is no real meaning. I hope my fellow religionists humans will come into the 21st century and see this and stop praying to their imaginary friends, especially the anons on this board. You are adults, why do you believe in these things?

>>791377

>If god real why me small :^|

>>791377

>If god real why me small :^|

>>791277

Physically we might be small, but in terms of how much information it takes to make us, we are much larger than anything else in this world - humanity is without a doubt the cutting edge of all order in the universe. How hard is it to make a functional universe from literally nothing? How hard is it to make life from literally nothing? How hard is it to make language from literally nothing? Yet we need all these massive leaps in order to make us.

I literally believe that we live in a geocentric system anyways, so I think all the rest of the universe is just there to inspire artists and reflect Gods magnificence.

>>791391

I believe we live in a me-centric system. Everything in the universe is always around me, but I'm never around anything. Everything in the universe is determined by its relationship to me. My coffee cup is 2 feet from me! Mars is 140 million miles from me! It's nice knowing that the universe revolves around me.

>>791377

Yes Goy! Now go watch porn and smoke weed.

also

>if god real why me small :^|

>>791415

looking at the origin point of science, most attribute it to Copernicus' work on the idea that the earth revolves around the sun. In other words science was spiritually formed from the idea that humans, on the Earth or in the Solar System, are not privileged observers of the universe. One can easily infer from this that we don't matter.

However I don't believe in science because of it's spiritual assumptions, because that would be irrational. I believe science in so far as it actually makes sense. When you say something spiritual as though it is proof, it's ridiculous because I don't give a shit about your beliefs.

>>791432

I get the feeling that a lot of science doesn't make sense to you. Maybe try getting through high school.

>>791377

>(((my fellow humans)))

>>791277

I think we should notice that since the "pale blue dot" image was published and as we have made further strides in space, humility has not increased proportionally to our knowledge of our physical smallness. I think that this fact speaks volumes about the human condition, many more volumes than the image "pale blue dot" itself speaks.

>>791415

This is actually pretty feasible worldview if the observable universe is isotropic.

>A piston is small, therefore it is irrelevant to the engine's function

>A CPU chip is small, therefore it is irrelevant to a computer's function

>Insects are small, therefore they are irrelevant to the environment

>An individual is small, therefore he is irrelevant to the community

>Humanity is small, therefore they are irrelevant to the universe

We had this exact thread five weeks ago. To reiterate, the size of the universe is as important a detail to the grand scheme of things as is the difference between a red apple and a green apple. It's only your preconception that "big=important" that makes you beg the question—a preconception which has no real basis; it's just sentimentality.

>>791277

Not unsettled at all, rather assured. What force could create such a wonder out of nothing expanding into nothing?

>>791277

There's something very freudian about getting upset about the size of the universe