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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

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93fa01  No.774348

What do you think the fate was for those soldiers who first handedly beat Christ? I watched a vid that said they were bound with ropes by the angels in Heaven and were cast into hell after they stood before the throne of God.

5eb3bd  No.774351

All we could do is speculate, the Bible doesn't talk about it


93fa01  No.774354

>>774351

You are right. But such a thing is interesting to ponder.


853fda  No.774358

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Truly it is a conundrum. On one hand these soldiers were only doing the job Ceaser commanded them to do. It isn't their place to question the orders of their leader. On the other hand, Pontius Pilate did say that Jesus was innocent of any crime. If these soldiers trusted their conscience they would have known that they would be torturing an innocent man and chose to, instead, face Ceaser's wrath.

If the soldiers had not beat Jesus like they did surely other soliders would have done it and the insubordination would be punished.

Really, your question is similar to what of the fate of Pontius Pilate? His hands were washed away of the blood because it was techinally the Jews that sentenced Jesus to death, Pilate was only executing his duty to the state. If Pilate trusted his conscience Ceaser would have him fired and replaced and his successor would fullfill his duty to Ceaser and God's prophecy. So was Pilate in the wrong to allow Jesus to die?

Than going off of that question, we can ask ourselves what of us here in modern times? Is a soldier responsible for following the bad orders of a bad commander? If the soldier was lied to and drone striked a wedding because he thought it was a terrorist hangout, is that soldier responsible for the civilian deaths or his CO (or both?)

Did any of the Church Fathers or saints write about this?


62a36e  No.774359

Well, for the ones that nailed him to the cross it was forgive them for they know not what they do. So I guess it comes down to whether you'd consider them beating him to an expected part of their job or something they did for fun.


d329e4  No.774391

>>774358

>His hands were washed away of the blood

we don't actually know this, because these words came from his mouth, it's an actual claim, not a proclamation of scripture. i've encountered several saints whom said Pilate was probably held responsible for what he did (st alphonsus, st augustine, i think)


1c5f12  No.774439

The Lord prayed that the Father forgives those who participated to His crucifixion. There is nothing else we can know.

Although St. Longinus, who led the detachment of soldiers who beat and crucified Christ, and who tore His side with a spear, realized the divinity of Jesus ("truly this man was a Son of God") and became, well, a saint.


fcc275  No.774479

>>774348

They were forgiven. Jesus himself asked for it.

Luke 23:34


2b508a  No.774702

>>774348

Longinus, the centurion to pieced The Lord's side is now a saint.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longinus


2b508a  No.774703

>>774702

*centurion who pierced




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