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It ends when you stop it, anon, and you just sat there instead.

>>773404

Also one thing that i found interesting is that he said the crusades had the intent of raping people too, like, rape is a sin in catholicism, how can they send their own people to deliberately sin lmao

>>773407

Yes. I should have confronted him. Next class i will confront him, no matter the consequences

>>773404

Well, Brazilian here too, teachers in this shithole are the scum of society. I got to read some of ENEM top essays, and the shit they say there is full leftist and anti-christian propraganda (In the essay about "Religious Intolerance", the guy/girl said that the jesuits when converting the indigenous, was a proof of intolerance and they because of that they were bigots and so on…). God, this country education is doomed, only by homeschooling, you will be able to have a true christian education.

>>773412

Yes. It's this kind of shit that makes me really angry..teachers with no knowledge whatsoever about these topics rambling on and on about a thing which many people find sacred. Also, i don't know if it's true, but it seems that if the homophobia act is passed, any person with a negative view of homosexuality could be arrested. This is ludicruous!

>>773414

Well, the homophobia act is going to be voted today, but it is probably going to pass, unless a miracle happens. And about the teachers, yeah, most of them have no knowledge, specially about the affairs of faith. Most of them got stuck in the "university intelectual mindset" ( Prideful of their "status", not wanting to learn, can't make an argument without logical fallacies), this mindset will probably remain forever, unless someone erradicates this education system.

>>773416

Well, if it pass, we're screwed. This education system truly is shit..i have a little sister of 7 and i pray everyday that she doesn't get subverted by jews like everyone else…Brazil's situation is so bad that it makes me compelled to try a coup de'tat and just rule Brazil with an iron rod, fixing all this nonsense.

>>773404

Next time in religious propaganda class bring up "sicut judaeis" and if that charlatan of a teacher even knows about it, ask why today only excerpts of the first part are mentioned. As for your daily school struggle…find a bunch of like-minded kids in your class or from school and stage a boycott against harmful indoctrination. Do this by sitting together and teaching each other about a related, but more valuable topic. Let the spirit of boycotting Marxist propaganda travel, by discrediting official curriculum and offering kids a group learning circle. A great topic would be basic philosophy about current problems. Don't rebel against authority, but boycott harmful teachings. Don't back down, get parents involved, and if it blows up into expulsions. gather together in study groups while openly defiling the state curriculum.

What you have to understand is that modern school systems are over, that we are in an occupied nation, and that your future will not be in this system anymore. So you have to find alternative means to support yourself and help others. This sounds terrifying at first, but you will soon find out how much more you can learn outside this nightmare by doing it yourself. Good luck!

>>773404

>says women were submissive as if it were a bad thing

Ah, that reminds me of something stupid I witnessed today.

<be me

<stop by parents' house to pick up some of my old things

<boomer parents have the cable jew

<one of their TVs is tuned into the today show (for non-Americans: it's a show composed of a few sour middle-aged women who talk about current events)

<one of them is criticizing the Bible for telling wives to submit to their husbands, saying "that's so wrong"

<make a trip out to my car and then head back inside

<the old crones are now praising lady gaga for ending her engagement, because reasons

I'm repulsed by everything the media churns out… I can't even watch documentaries anymore without being highly skeptical. If it weren't for my strong desire to marry and have kids, I'd pursue the monastic life.

>virtually every class has a teacher talking about feminism, women's liberation and so on

Welcome to college. At my uni, there's always been least one based student who speaks up in my class whenever the professor spouts bullshit, so that gives me hope. In the Biology lecture I was in yesterday, there were students openly mocking abortion and transgenderism. Sadly, I think Brazil is a few decades ahead of the U.S. in terms of degeneracy.

>>773418

The thing is, this is not a school, this is a private course..but i could try that.

>>773430

Not a school, just a single class from a private course…my parents are paying for this and the classes are good content wise, but the constant preaching and subtle critiques makes me mad. There are some good teachers, like the history teacher (ironically) who encouraged us to read the bible.

>>773430

That's really good. I will be entering college in this year or the next one, but it will be a STEM course, so i won't be expecting too much nonsense..damn i really have to build to courage to speak out.

>>773430

>there's always been least one based student who speaks up

>there were students openly mocking

Do not let these moments pass and start networking a counter culture. Reject, boycott, expand, offer an alternative. It's a war for your future, don't be a spectator.

>>773409

Is that really a hill you are willing to die on?

>>773454

I thought about it,and i'm not so sure. I mean what's the point. They're all going to have the same feminist worldview..i spoke with an atheist friend about this, and he still rejected the facts. I don't feel like doing that at all anymore, and my contempt and hatred for the modern world is just growing..

>>773456

>>773454

sorry for being a little black pilled, and sounding like a coward, but this whole thing leaves me disgusted and i doubt there are people in my class that will be at my side anyway. Today after class i spoke with a prottie girl, she seems pretty trad in manners and views of marriage and so on, but even her was unphased and uninstered in my words..she seemed like the typical anti-catholic protestant, bu whatever..i wasn't interested anyways.

>>773458

I've talked about this quite a bit with my priest and it isn't about being blackpilled necessarily… We are not called to seek out martyrdom. We are called to speak the truth, but standing up in class and giving a dissertation on the faith is first of all going to be unconvincing to most of your classmates, and second of all going to severely negatively impact your own future. Of course there's always the chance that we will turn the heart of some cold unrepentant sinner, and that this negative reaction is merely part of the cross we must bear in this world. That being said, let's go ahead and apply Occam's razor and say the real reason you would speak up isn't from a place of love and sincere desire for the salvation of the others involved, but rather an impulse to justify yourself and your beliefs. Exercise careful discernment. I found myself in the latter camp, and though I don't doubt you to be holier than I, it is worth significant meditation and prayer before any Christian undertakes such a trial.

>>773462

I mean, it's not about me. I know the truth, but i get worried about other people being deceived..but never mind. I will pray for them instead.

My advise is to emphasize first and foremost that the teacher has no right to impose his personal biased opinion on his students. The duty of the teacher is to give the students well sourced, well researched facts and let them make their own conclusions. If he doesn't do that and instead insidiously impels his students to hold the same opinions, then he's a failure as a teacher. From his discussion, it's clear he's passing off, pardon my latin, bullshit cliches about medieval society as the truth, which could be easily blasted apart with even a smattering of the facts, which you should deliver in your next class to his face without mercy. But the main point you should drive is that his instruction is ideologically driven, and as such inappropriate for the educational setting.

>>773404

>women weren't allowed to write nor read by the evil catholic church

What? There are tons of writings from women from the middle ages. Marie de France, Christine de Pizan, Heloise just to name a few.

catholic church is half the reason why most people were literate in the west after rome's fall

>>773544

well, among those who were literate I mean

>>773413

>"Stay united!"

You're 500 years too late, bud.

>>773557

What do you mean by this?

>>773404

>teacher goes on and on how women weren't allowed to write nor read by the evil catholic church

Most people couldn't.

>>774942

that's just flat out lies though. Some nuns were able to write and read, Hildegaard, for example, wrote a lot of music and books. It's just that, unlike today, women weren't running around chasing """success""" and instead were chasing vocation.

>>773404

>teacher goes on and on how women weren't allowed to write nor read by the evil catholic church

Most people couldn't read and write, historically.

>says women were submissive as if it were a bad thing

Submissive somehow implies men were tyrannical or that women didn't have autonomy in their own spheres.

>described the social order of the middle ages as "the king in the top, clergy and then nobles" as if only a select few could become clergy

All societies have hierarchies of responsibilities. Kings were supported by the people and many were deposed.

>describes the catholic church as a secret police death squad

The inquisition didn't even execute many people compared to the French Revolution or any other leftist revolution.

>"THE CHURCH WAS THE STATE" mfw

The Church never wrote or enforced laws, nations's mostly operated their own legal system and means of enforcement.

>"the church sent crusades to kill, loot and pillage the middle east"

Implying expansionist Islamic Caliphate wasn't a reason.

>>774946

I never said people couldn't read, idiot. Clergy, nobility and wealthy could read and write. The average person generally could not.

>>774951

>>774946

It depends what period we're talking about. 'Historically' may not be precise. After the 1500s there is a general trend over time of increased literacy.

>https://ourworldindata.org/literacy

I don't know where the stats come from.

>>774951

> idiot

wow dude, I was agreeing with you.

I was saying they were lying.

Try to avoid using insults.