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I'd start with going back to Genesis. Where for me it actually explained a lot of that. And ,Father Seraphim Rose answered a lot of those questions here. But also left me with some. Hope this helps man.

From my catechism:

<Q: How does the Lord Jesus Christ accomplish our salvation?

>A: The Son of God accomplished our salvation by His incarnation, His teaching, His life, His death, His resurrection, and His glorious ascension.

<Q: How did He do it by His incarnation?

>A: Through the incarnation, the Son of God has united the human and divine natures without confusion, without change, without division, and without separation. In this union in one Christ, which is surprising even for the angels, the divinity has healed the fallen humanity of Adam and so of all men. For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. (1 Corinthians 15:21-22)

<Q: How did He do it by His teaching?

>A: The teaching of Christ on salvation and blissful life is expressed in the Gospel of the Kingdom. This unchanged teaching is still proclaimed by the Holy Church. It helps us toward salvation if we accept it with all our heart.

<Q: How did He do it by His life?

>A: The life of the Lord leads toward salvation if we imitate Him spiritually: let us acquire the emotions, will, and Spirit of Jesus Christ, either directly or by imitating spiritually the lives of His saints. "Therefore I urge you, imitate me", says the Apostle Paul. (1 Corinthians 4:16)

<Q: How did He do it by His death?

>A: Through death, the Lord destroyed him who had the power of death, that is, the devil. (Hebrews 2:14) The death of the Lord leads us to salvation if we enter His Church through Baptism which symbolizes the death and resurrection of Christ. Three immersions in cold water symbolize His death and His stay in Hell for three days. The emergence from water symbolizes His glorious resurrection. Do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. (Romans 6:3-4)

>The death of the Lord leads us to salvation if we eat His true and pure Body and drink His true and pure Blood through the sacrament of the Holy Eucharist which is to be accomplished until His second and glorious coming. For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you: that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which He was betrayed took bread; and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

<Q: How did He do it by His resurrection?

>A: Having destroyd the gates of Hell (1 Peter 3:19) and liberated the souls of the righteous, the Lord Jesus Christ destroyed death and opened for all repentant men the entrance to Heaven, where the thief entered first. (Luke 23:43) Through His resurrection, all men will be resurrected in the flesh on the Final and Great Day of Judgement. The impious will go into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life. (Matthew 25:46)

<Q: How did He do it by His ascension?

>A: Through the ascension, the Lord Jesus Christ resurrects as a man, rises up and elevates our human nature into Himself, above all heavens and sits at the right hand of the Father. Thus men can become partakers of the divine nature (2 Peter 1:4), which means gods by grace.

<Q: What is redemption or ransom?

>A: Ransom is the payment by which slaves and captives obtained freedom, and by which criminals were spared from punishment. In the Old Testament, ransom designated an amount of money paid by the Jews for the first-born. Consequently, those children who were consecrated to the divine ministery in the Temple were exempt from serving in the Temple. Therefore, ransom is a payment to liberate those who are not able to obtain freedom by their own means.

>Following the original sin, man became a prisoner of the devil and suffered the punishment for his sins. Christ, being without sin and dying for us on the cross, liberates us from the consequences of original sin, including death, and destroys the power of the devil over man.

>>770455 (checked)

The atonement Jesus does for us is very very similar to the story of God telling Abraham to sacrifice his son on a alter for God. Instead of allowing Abraham to actually go through with it, God allows a substitute. God points twords the ram that has it's head caught in the thorny bush. He allows Abraham to sacrifice the Ram instead of his son to atone for his sins.

This was the precursor to the Levitical law of sacrificing an animal to atone for the sins of that person. Unfortunately, for the Israelites this animal sacrifice for atonement became numb to the hearts of Israel. So God had to form a new covenant to end the practice of perpetual animal sacrifice. He did this by creating thr perfect sacrifice, His only Son Jesus Christ.

Jesus was the perfect lamb. Absolutely sinless and innocent. When Jesus died on the cross, He was the final blood sacrifice to end all blood sacrifices.

Embed related is from The Bible Project and they explain it better than I could.

>>770467

My error. I didn't read the OP carefully.

From the same catechism:

<Q: Why was the Lord Jesus Christ crucified?

>A: The Lord voluntarily humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross (Philippians 2:8) to save every man from death by purifying human nature through His Divine Blood. The Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many. (Matthew 20:28)

<Q: Why did the Son of Man die on the cross?

>A: Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us, for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”. (Galatians 3:13) The Apostle Paul quotes the book of the Old Testament to highlight the fact that Christ voluntarily took upon Himself the curse that is destined for every man. The innocent one suffered for the guilty. He let His own hands be pierced so that He may heal the hands of the one who reached for the forbidden fruit; He let His feet be pierced so that He may heal the feet of the one who ran to hide into a bush (Genesis 3:10); He let Himself wear a crown of thorns to correct the curse of the ground producing thorns and thistles (Genesis 3:18); He let His side be pierced so that He may heal the woman who was first taken from a rib and violated the commandment first. In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins. (Ephesians 1:7) And: You were not redeemed with corruptible things, like silver or gold, from your aimless conduct received by tradition from your fathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot. He indeed was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you. (1 Peter 1:18-20)

<Q: Why does John the Baptist call Jesus Christ "the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world" (John 1:29)?

>A: Because Christ took upon Himself the just punishment for our sins, which was destined for us. The cross is the altar upon which Christ is sacrified according to His human nature, like a Lamb, and upon which He does the sacrifice according to His divine nature, as High Priest. This miralce is expressed in one of the liturgical prayers: "You are the One Who both offers and is offered, the One Who is received and is distributed, O Christ our God."

>>770476

This. Jesus was the antithesis to everything that the jews practiced. Even communion is the antithesis to the jewish blood rituals. Instead of drinking the blood of an actual person, use wine as a substitute.

>>770594

Jews didn't drink blood. That's completely forbidden.. and one of the few things the first Church council in the book of Acts forbids on Christian gentiles as well. One of the few binding Torah laws across both testaments.

"Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God: But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood." - Acts 15:19,20

>>770603

>In 415 Socrates Calasticus reported that “Jews had bound a Gentile child to a cross and poked him until he died.”

>In 425 Baroneus reported that “Jews crucified a child.”

>In 614 Monk Antiocus reported that “When Jerusalem fell to the Persians, Jews purchased a Gentile child and slew him like a sheep.”

>1115 Germany the day before Passover, Hassidic Jews tortured 5 children and used their blood for occult purposes.

>1243 Bavaria Jews were convicted after confessing to using Gentile blood in a rite for Passover.

>1255 London 18 prominent Jews were tried and all convicted of ritualistically murdering a Gentile child. One renounced his faith to tell the truth about the incident.>1290 Oxford, England another Jew was arrested for the ritual murder of a child – 1 month later Jews were banned from England, mostly moving to Germany.

>1335 an innocent named Henry was discovered dead. Pricked in over 60 places he was bled dry.

>1420 Venice Jews murdered a Gentile child.

>1462 Austria Jews ritualistically murdered a Gentile child on a stone near Innsbruck. The town was called Jude stein (Jew Stone) afterwards.

>1475 Italy a child named Simon was murdered and circumcised. Covered in puncture marks, Simon was only 2 years old.

>1492 Gaudia, Spain a child named Christopher was discovered also ritualistically murdered. This lead to Isabella of Spain issuing an edict that Jews be banned from Spain forever, that remained intact until 1967. Isabella & Ferdinand had them rounded up and booted out for “Wickedness, and serious and detestable crimes

>>770603

Now, because they're possessed and nothing like before. I'm just talking about the Torah, not the Talmud.. to be clear.

>>770610

But anon, that was the reason why Jesus offered his body and blood to his disciples. Jews were doing that during Jesus's time and he knew and his disciples knew. He doesn't just make stuff up on the spot.

>>770603

You know all that happened after the Tenple period, right? And hat the animal sacrifices were prescribed by God, right?

>>770957

That image is literally reddit low iq tier thinking.

>>770992

It's a meme u dip