/christian/ - Christian Discussion and Fellowship

>how do you do fellow Christians.

SAGE

>>767258

<doesnt sage

Joshua did nothing wrong driving out the sick and disgusting Canaanites. Pharoah was a reprobate that wouldn't listen to God and brought the plauges upon him self.

>civilian casualties

What? You mean war is bad and civilians got hurt ? The horror someone should do something about it.

>muh cannibalistic aztec/meso american ancestors dindu nuffin! Darn you Cortez for civilizing us pagan savages

OP, you are a faggot. If you truly believe rape, incest, and child sacrifice is a valid religion that dindu nuffin, than you are lost and I will pray for a sinner like you.

What are your apologetics on the pagan vikangz enslaving white people and selling them off into sex slavery to Muslims? What are your apologetics on ritual baby murder and ritual fornication? Why should people give up on something that has been proven to work for over thousands of years for some idols that can't do anything? Why should humanity regress into barbaric retardation and play right into the hands of (((them)))?

>killing of the egyptian firstborn

That was God, and He did nothing wrong.

>the killing and driving out of the caananites

Honestly, the Israelites were wrong in failing to fully exterminate them.

>the civilian casualties in the crusades, i.e. the killing of women and children of all faiths during the capture of jerusalem

I get the feeling that the facts are misrepresented my the mainstream media's popular image of the Crusades, just like the Inquisition is.

>the destruction of the aztec and meaoamerican and south american empires and their subsumation into spain

Retribution for centuries of human sacrifice and idolatry. They chose their fate. Subsumation into the Spanish empire has given them, first and foremostly, salvation. They would not have found our Lord and Savior otherwise. In addition, mesoamericans now have indoor plumbing, basic sanitation, modern medicine, and a more Western way of life.

Aztecs…

You realize the Aztecs were a relatively new empire that was constantly enslaving it's neighbours as it grew and doing insane human sacrifices (read up on it, it's stomach churning). Cortez was begged by a coalition of the smaller tribes to attack them.

You can also watch Apocalypto, its a great modern movie that's almost historically accurate.

>>767278

>>killing of the egyptian firstborn

>That was God, and He did nothing wrong.

All you need to know about christians.

Sage

>>767310

>God punishing pharaoh for disobeying Him by killing all the first born children in Egypt as a way to show irony of pharaoh's policies of killing the first born sons of Israeli families is evil

>but ritual child sacrifice, incest, gang rape, and murder as demanded by false gods is a okay

the absolute hypocritical state of fedoras

>>767319

<ritual child sacrifice, incest, gang rape, and murder as demanded by false gods is a okay

Except he didn't say any of that. You people are so ridiculous. He clearly just pointing out that "if God does it, it's good." is a horrifically immoral and erratic concept. It isn't from the point of view of anyone who believes in God, because He is the source of all good and all light and all that, but from the perspective of someone who doesn't (or someone who believes in the entity but not all the memes) it seems to be nothing more than a golden ticket on which to write anything as justified and/or justifiable.

Of course every single thing God does is okay. Of course every single thing God sanctions is okay. They're not only okay, they're good. If God said "let there be ritual child sacrifice, incest, gang rape and murder" you would celebrate those things - as you should! You have no claim to morality other than "God -> Good". His supreme authority is unquestionable. You should accept any and all terrible things done with the backing of God, as they are necessarily good. It is said when God tortured the Egyptians He also hardened the pharaohs heart, so that he would not give in to the demands of Moses. It would seem that He only did this to have reason to continue His cruelty. But this is good, as all things He does is good. Don't shy from it, lest people be witness to your absolutely hypocritical state.

>>76725

>>767264

Bruh I’m as christian as they come. I think that the crusades and wars against the caananites are absolutely fine and in keeping with God especially when the pagans practice religion as vile as you said. Apologies if my OP came off as otherwise.

If we want to evangelize we need to tackle these questions in ways that make sense to those opposed to the faith. We need to show people how vile their religion is so that they convert and get saved. Yet the women and children on the side of the enemy who die will be brought against us. The women who blatantly support and take part in these abominations are obviously damned, but what about the ones who beleive in it yet never took part? What about the ones where it was against their will? Take a savage girl who is a part of a pagan gang rape, and dies in the process. Is their soul just damned as they never heard god? Or does god introduce himself before passing judgement? What happens to a caananite kid who dies as jericho’s wall falls?

These questions will and have been brought against us and we need to specify the answers to those who are on the sidlelines.

>killing of the egyptian firstborn

They were warned shit would happen.

And besides they also killed every Hebrew baby in the time of Moses.

>the killing and driving out of the caananites

<sacrifice children

<don't deserve to die

>the civilian casualties in the crusades, i.e. the killing of women and children of all faiths during the capture of jerusalem

Those are in hell. Their mission was to winnie the pooh Muslims out of Jerusalem.

The blood of those innocents is on their hands only. It wasn't the fault of the Church in any possible point of view.

One army was even excommunicated when they winnie the poohed Constantinopole to the ground.

>the destruction of the aztec and meaoamerican and south american empires and their subsumation into spain

What Spain does concerns their government only. The church only said, go there and preach the gospel.

Portugal did no blood bath for example.

And the guilty part here was the bacteria on the Europeans that infected the natives since they had no immunity to it.

Why did God allowed all of this thing to happen, people died omg.

Because death isn't final and eternal life awaits those who died in the Lord.

And if God knew one of those souls would eventually become Christians he would let them die without becoming one.

One soul for God is more important than the entire universe.

>>767413

>Wouldn't let them die

Fixed.

>>767285

>get the injun drunk then take his land

Is it really ok to tempt your enemies into evil? I mean god did do that somewhat when he hardened pharaohs heart.

>>767527

It isn't okay to make someone worse than they are, it isn't okay to lead them astray. However, it is okay to encourage them to demonstrate their dysfunction overtly so that the justification for their subjugation is readily apparent.

>>767527

>Is it really ok to tempt your enemies into evil? I mean god did do that somewhat when he hardened pharaohs heart.

Read the whole episode of events. The Exodus story has Pharoah making his own choices.

"But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkened not unto them; as the Lord had said." (Exodus 8:11).

Over and over the plagues come, but Pharaoh is obstinate of his own free will. It isn't until the end that it uses that turn of phrase you mention. So what does that mean, and why latch on only to that last one?

Souls are immortal.

>>767549

No spirit is immortal

>>767245

Not every christian kill others. Some christians might have misunderstood the faith or used the dogma to wage wars, but not all. And they have no business with christianity as a faith, they change nothing, the blood is on their own hands and not other believers.

>>767556

>No spirit is immortal

Except they literally are, heretic.